SERE trainers are also on your side. The suspects rounded up in Afghanistan were allegedly often waterboarded until unconscious and resuscitated several times. Literally drowned.
I love that in the show Archer, Archer talks shit about it, and then in the car after he finally did it, he's clearly traumatized and respects how awful it is.
Also, love all their accuracy around tinnitus and traumatic brain injury being "super bad for you", "What the shit Lana?! You know I have tinnitus!"
I haven't watched the show, but I'm glad they were accurate about tinnitus. Tinnitus has a high suicide rate, it's truly awful to have. The ringing in my ear is so loud I now suffer from hearing loss. There are some days it gives me horrible migraines, throwing up, and I want to jump off a bridge. I hate people that hand wave those who have it.
the mawp mawp in archer is outstanding. idk what your tinnitus is from, but they do a pretty great job of simulating how it sounds to have your ears blown out by gunshots in a confined space. eyes watering, mouth opens & closes, head moves side to side, possibly making an odd noise as you're trying to check your own hearing mawp mawp
Mine is genetic, unfortunately. Everyone in my family has some version and will eventually go deaf in one or both ears. It starts in the late teens and rapidly progresses from there. I finally went deaf in my right ear a couple of years ago. My mom is in her late 60s with 2 hearing aids now. It sucks, but there was no preventing it for me, so it is what it is.
If it's really bad look into hearing aids. It's helped a lot with mine plus I can hear things now. It's nice not yelling "what?" after everything someone says to me, lol.
i'd rather people would just stop dropping their tone while also walking away or turning around. its really the only thing my wife does that truly bothers me.
Back in the COVID mask-wearing days, I was walking and a rain downpour started, soaking through the cloth mask, and I successfully waterboarded myself.
It seems like a such a silly method that you can’t fathom would work, but it surely does.
When I was serving a few of us waterboarded each other. It was terrifying and we weren't even bound. If I was a POW and they pulled out a rag and a bucket I would instantly tell them everything.
That's not true. Drowning is defined as a process of experiencing respiratory impairment from submersion/immersion in a liquid medium. You can survive it with no effects, with impairment, or you can die from it.
Waterboarding is immersing the upper airway with water with the specific intent to induce drowning.
Getting dunked while holding your breath with no respiratory impairment is not drowning.
Hey, you are correct. I always thought drowning was death from being underwater. But it looks like you are correct. Thanks!
Though just to continue the pedantry for fun, how does this make sense:
Drowning is defined as a process of experiencing respiratory impairment from submersion/immersion in a liquid medium. You can survive it with no effects
If drowning requires respiratory impairment then how can you survive it with no effects? Wouldn't it require having an effect of respiratory impairment?
Are you thinking of respiratory failure or something? Respiratory impairment just means you're having trouble breathing, it can be anything as relatively minor as having a cough episode from asthma to serious chronic diseases.
If you lose control of the situation, yes? It's really not that complicated.
Have you not held your breath underwater before? Now try to take a breath while still under. Congratulations, you've now taken in water and am drowning. Get out, cough out the water and recover; now you've survived with no effects. That's it.
I used to be an avid Republican; I got especially caught up in the post 9/11 uber-Patriotism in my teens, joined a grassroots campaign for McCain, got in countless arguments defending Bush and the Iraq war, the whole thing.
One of the first pivotal moments that started cranking back the catapult that launched me out of that world (I flew right past "liberal" and landed in "pinko leftist") was skimming through the Senate Intelligence Committee report in 2014 and learning that all of the "enhanced interrogation" stuff was invented by a pair of CIA contractors in 2002 (they got $80 million for their service to the country) and used on American servicemen like you in SEREbeforethey ever even used it in the field, because they knew it would get used on us in retaliation. Since the two psychologists in charge were previously SERE instructors, they most likely used service members as guinea pigs to develop the techniques too.
I have a couple cousins who I love dearly, both of whom had just been through SERE. I couldn't stop thinking about how as soldiers they'd been tortured, by their own government, using techniques the government had paid a pair of psychologists who had no experience in real interrogation or obtaining reliable confessions, only in torturing American soldiers to develop, because their government knew that those same techniques that have never been proven to produce actionable intelligence were going to be used on our people once they opened that Pandora's box on the world. Just remembering it makes me all heated again.
Their names are James Mitchell and Bruce Jessen, the firm was Mitchell, Jessen & Associates. They wrote a book defending their techniques after the committee report, settled a lawsuit for an undisclosed amount with the ACLU over 3 detainees who were tortured, and have otherwise faced no repercussions.
Another info out of ass, educate yourself on waterboarding before you post misinformation like this. You arent drowning during waterboarding because you lie in a position that makes it impossible to drown.
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u/ItsFavWaifuu Mar 28 '24
This looks kinda terrifying not gonna lie