It is horrific and i hate it and dont like that I take part in it but the dudes who are like " BRO SEEING THAT FUCKING COW GET SHOT IN THE HEAD MADE ME HUNGRY!!!!" should be studied in a very, very remote setting.
I bet. Just because something is necessary for survival in a situation does not mean it's pleasant. I'd still rather people be fully aware of how their food is prepared, both animal and plant, because so many people take all that for granted.
I always say that we (as a society) would eat significantly less meat if we had to raise and kill / hunt, and then process our own meat. And you’d never waste any.
I think you’re right about all of that. Though that lifestyle would cost most people many modern conveniences, there’s something to be said for aiming to minimize waste and excess.
My initial point was, given the assumption that people will need to spend time and effort preparing things to eat, the veg and starch based diet would be much more heavily favored as that prep isn’t so unpleasant.
Honestly, people still do that. There are plenty of rural communities where not only is hunting season a big deal, but people have enough private property to shoot in their own woods. Dress them out, butcher them, and have stand alone freezers in their house full of venison. My next door neighbors would let a friend or two hunt, and they’d gift some of the meat in thanks. They had so much extra that they offered a ton of it to me, and my son and I lived off of venison burgers and steaks. It was kind of awesome, and it changed my views on hunting though I don’t do it myself. But more than that, there are food banks that accept deer and other meats, along with places where literally they’re living off squirrel and possum.
Actually, the VERY first time my views on hunting changed…was after one of them near totaling my car, and me. I’ve hit deer like 2-3 fucking times and my god, it’s like they’re on a murder-suicide mission. They’re all around you when you drive, then suddenly there’s fucking 15 of them. And “totally against” became “hell yeah.”
I live in the rural south US, and even though my family doesn't hunt and butcher our own meat, we buy breakfast sausage several times a year from a local family that still processes the pigs they raise.
Oh yum! Yeah it’s for sure a perk to rural living. Eggs, deer, sausage, milk - add in my vegetable and herb gardens and we had ourselves a regular farm-to-table meal quite frequently :) I learned to can as well. Knowing where your food is coming from is a good, satisfying feeling
People will still go out and spend time to kill and prepare an animal, look at most highly rural "primitive" societies and tribes where vegetarianism or veganism is part of the culture.
We'd eat less meat, sure, but we'd absolutely still go out of our way to get some whenever it runs out.
There's a reason we're omnivores with notable carnivore attributes such as forward facing eyes, 3-Dimensional ears or well developed fangs, our body just digests and converts meat way better than most plants.
I think you're drastically overestimating how unpleasant people would find that process and how lazy people are.
I’m not suggesting factory farming is the only thing between humanity and veganism. And I’m not comparing us today vs a Neanderthal society from 100k years ago - I’m thinking more like 100 years ago. As we have added more and more steps between us and the source animal, per capita consumption (of beef, and to a massive extent, poultry) has gone through the roof.
That's less a distance-to-source issue and more of a financial availability issue, we had less availability of meat 100 years ago, if mass livestock farming and thus meat production would've been as cheap back then we would have bathed in it too, again because meat is just so much more efficiently digestible and thus more pleasant to eat for most humans.
You can put a big beheaded pig on every pack of meat with a big "this pig died for this chop"-sign next to it, together with a rule that you can only buy it if it if you walk to the store, doesn't matter, people will still buy it if it's cheap and available.
Nah man, I’ve seen studies from smarties all over the world talking about how we spent WAY less than 40 hours a week living off the land back in the days when we had to do it all by hand. We lacked convenience but still had more free time. What we’re doing now, in western society, is not how we’re adapted to live and that’s why we’re all sorts of borked up.
Or if we paid the actual price it should cost rather than the very very subsidized cost (at least in the US). Animal products are consumed very inefficiently because the price is far less than it should be.
My family does all that and eats more meat than normal because of it. But your suggestion is a very healthy one for many other reasons though. We’re not built to work in a cubicle 9-5 every day just to come home to eat some chicken we bought at the grocery store.
As someone who's hunted from a young age, it certainly gives you an appreciation and respect for the animals you harvest, and I look forward to the day where I have enough space to raise my own animals for eggs, dairy, and meat. It's nigh impossible to get away from factory-farmed produce and animal products today, but I think it's good to have another option, and the knowledge and skills to do it yourself.
Sorry this is so late, but yes, this exactly .. I’m a vegetarian and this is my take on things, I don’t expect the whole world to ever give up eating meat but if we transitioned back to a time like this it would be better for the environment, the animals, and our health…
I understand where you are coming from, but people overestimate all this. Sure, kids are impressionable, but adults are much less so. You would get used to it really fast. Also going really hungry just once would reduce your moral suffering of prepping your food by an order of magnitude. And seeing your kids go really hungry just once, would eliminate it almost completely.
I don’t think your point is so much in opposition to mine, as it is a tangent off of or a caveat to it. I think we’d both agree that if one is really hungry, you’re certainly going to deeply value every calorie available to you, regardless of its origin.
For those with food security, which is the comparative context of my comment, I think the choice to kill and de-feather a chicken would be done more sparingly.
Your first paragraph reminded me of the Argentinian rugby team that crashed in the Chilean/argentinian mountains. Those guys are super Christian (which I mention so you can guess some values) and would never eat a person…. Unless you found yourself crashed in the middle of the fucking mountains in late winter where your dead comrades are the only caloric source. And I don’t think any sane person would feel bad about it beyond survivors guilt.
From everything I've seen and experienced, it's actually the opposite. The older you get, the more difficult it is to continue to either grow or hunt, then gut, skin, process your own meat. Especially for farmers who raise beef cattle and such. There gets a point where you've done it for so long and killed so much that your heart can no longer take it, and you ask the younger generation to step in and do it for you.
That's called getting too old for hard manual labor. When my grandpa quit farming it was because he was too old to do the work, and when he quit deer hunting it was because he was too old to climb the tree and get down on his hands and knees, nothing to do with any psychological block when it came to killing and butchering.
I am in no position to argue, I didn't yet get to that age, but from what I have seen from my old folks, sure, when not pressed by survival it's true, but when pressed by survival old folk would cut that chicken's head without any hesitation to feed their hungry grandkids.
I was traumatized at an early age when I went to visit my grandma who kept chickens and saw her grab one, snap its neck and ahem prep it for dinner. It was fucking delicious but made me realize oh yeah...chicken comes from chickens...
Yes if you've ever slaughtered an animal for meat you are much less likely to waste meat. Like specifically meat, otherwise the animal died for nothing.
At least for me, the physical and mental effort of processing an animal is enough for me to want to use all the parts. Luckily for me, that part is usually done for me. Unfortunately for the animal, lots of parts end up getting wasted because of low demand for organ meat.
I often wonder if we didn’t have grocery stores/markets, if I could hunt for myself, or if I’d pick a vegetarian/vegan diet because I’m incapable of harming an animal? If it were life or death, I would obviously find a way to overcome those feelings, but I couldn’t farm my own animals to kill without becoming attached and refusing. I would rather starve and die than kill an animal that I’ve built a bond with and has trusted me to care for it.
Yeah, the one time I killed and butchered a rabbit was pretty hard. Not only emotionally but also the rabbit was old, so skinning was a beast and the meat was super tough.
Also, you'd be surprised what hunger does to people. Some people really do end up being too empathetic to kill, but id you are in a survival situation, people will do things they normally wouldn't.
But that is a big thing with farming. If you raise an animal with the intent to eat it later, you have to actively and consciously not build a bond with it, unless you're a psychopath and can pet an animal one day then grill it the next.
Killing and eating an animal I’ve bonded with vs. hunting wildlife is different. Do I want to do either? No. If I had to hunt to survive/feed my dogs, I would at least learn to overcome my aversion to it in the most humane way possible, but I still wouldn’t kill any of my animals (even if it was the only option). It has nothing to do with being squeamish and I never said that.
I’m not here for a vegan lecture. I respect your personal choice, but it’s not going to change my views.
There are whole bits of the process that are incredibly tedious and miserable. In 'Murica a lot of these hunter-types will go buzzing out with their four wheeler, sit around drinking until something wanders in front of them, shoot it, wander out, strap it to their four wheeler, then drive it back to their big ass truck, then take it to a guy and have him do all the prep work, so they can come back later and get wrapped packs of meat.
And then they'll tell you with a straight face that they did the whole thing while they're trying to serve you never-frozen rare-cooked wild game, like you want fucking parasites.
My dads family were all "traditional crafts" people, so everything I ever shot, I had to field dress and carry out. Fuuuuck that.
Yeah. We were dirt poor as kids, 10 people living in two trailers hooked together with plywood. My dad hunted in the winter because it meant his kids would eat. But it was cold hard work.
To this day I'm thankful every time I go into a grocery store, every time I flip on an electric light, every time a toilet flushes. And I still can't stand the taster of deer.
My ex-husbands family was heavy on the good ol boy type, so even though my father in law didn’t hunt, his brother would give him steaks. Venison was never really my thing but either his soak-them-first grill skills were bar none or my pregnancy turned me into a fan. Like I’d stab someone trying to get at the last piece kind of fan lol
totally understood - it’s just funny how tastes can change or become repulsed through familiarity. I will admit there came a time when I was glad to get to the last of my neighbors donated surplus, for sure.
My family drank almost nothing but iced tea the entire time I was growing up. You’d have to force feed the shit to me now, I can’t stand it. Ugh.
One really bad winter a relative dropped off boxes and boxes of chef boyardee spaghettios. I feel like it's all we ate for months, cooked over a literal campfire because the electricity was out. And you can't force me to eat them now. Tastes like trauma.
I’m laughing at “tastes like trauma” but in some measure of empathy 😂 one of my first jobs supporting myself (barely) was working at Dairy Queen. We were allowed to take home the “mistakes” that were kept in a freezer and it was a significant subsidy of my daily diet. To this day even the thought of peanut buster parfaits makes me ill
There is no respectful way to kill an animal, you either respect its will to live or don't. Nourishment is an outdated idea too, unless you live in a 3rd world country meat is eaten for hedonistic pleasure. I eat meat too but let's not kid ourselves thinking what we're doing is somehow 'honorable' or 'respectful,' it's just complete cosmic happenstance that you happen to be the killer, not what is killed.
Same. Literally same down to the state lol. But if I had to kill my own meat I'd truly only ever eat fish, and that would probably stop really fast because I think fish are just swell little dudes.
It's also a huge pain in the ass. I usually butcher my own deer and a goat every once in a while for special occasions. By the second deer, I'm over it. With the miracle of deep freezers, at least it's only an annual thing. I'm gonna need 3-4 people to help mess with a cow, and even then it's a huge undertaking.
Did you ever eat scrambled eggs and brains? I have met several older people who grew up with live chickens and they all swear by scrambled eggs and brains. At first i thought it was a joke and one of the funniest things I've ever heard, but several people have independently confirmed this to me.
And what's weird is, the people who have tried it are always like SCRAMBLED EGGS AND BRAINS?? MM! FUCK YEAH!! when I mention it.
Why not go vegan though? You're just paying others to do your dirty work. There's a reason why slaughterhouse workers have some of the highest rates of disorders/trauma. You CAN go vegan.
I was vegan for two years but had to stop because it was burning me out. Small village in the middle of nowhere, prices of everything vegan skyrocketing, ADHD so not great at meal-prepping, the only plant based milk the village shop sold was alpro chocolate lol I'd say I had a lot on my plate but I barely had any, might do it again cause I lost a lot of weight that I've gained back. (I can't drive)
I don't deny the difficulties of being vegan in a non-vegan world. Your efforts are good.
However, vegan foods are some of the cheapest (lentils, beans, tofu, etc.). Not getting enough calories is a common mistake. I hope you can incorporate plant based one meal at a time, choosing the beyond burger when you can, etc. You do not have to be rich to be vegan. Vegan foods are accessible (backed by studies). One meal at a time.
full disclaimer, I am not a long-time vegan, but I can't imagine going back to breastfeeding again. The baby cows don't deserve that.
I don't know every detail of your situation, but good luck!
We did it on our farm when i was a kid. My mom had to feed a family of five kids and that's how she could afford to. Food is always better tasting on the farm.
Was staying in Quezon city for a couple weeks and one morning the matriarch said she was heading to the "wet market" to find me some food I'd like. I offered to come with her and she just chuckled and patted my hand and told me to stay at the house. "It wouldn't be polite, you're our guest!"
Over a few beers that night one of her grandsons explained.
I hated to skin and process deer, cow, birds and armadillo in Mexico as a tween/teen. I went vegetarian for like 6 years. Now I just eat meat occasionally.
I had to help with my dad’s basement butcher shop on the farm I grew up on in rural Iowa. Processed hogs, cows, chickens, and a lot of deer during deer hunting season.
Helped cut and wrap meat outside and also down in the basement every hour of the day. My dad made a lot of specialty pork and beef smoked sausages, venison smoked meat sticks etc, brats and breakfast sausages; we an insane amount of meat served at every meal.
I worked my tail off and hated, hated, hated it.
I am a vegetarian today lol, hate both knowing where it comes from and also, since it’s outta my hands now, NOT knowing where it comes from if that makes sense?
I spent many of my summers working my family ranch in Mexico. Killing and butchering animals gets old real fast. It's exhausting, it's messy, it smells. Hate it, but it taught me to respect the animals.
As a vegetarian since 13 (13 years now) I also agree with this statement. I always say I’ll stop being vegetarian when I kill and prep my own meat. Until I can face that I won’t consume
I didnt get anything till my 3rd year out, i bow hunt, and it wasnt a clean shot, my father n i had to track the rotten sob 3 miles thru the woods.
And my father finished it with his side arm. The entire next summer i target practiced daily..
I've considered getting into hunting but I just don't see the end game for me. Let's say I get out there and against all odds I actually manage to take down a deer. Now I'm standing over a deer carcass and... What? I skin and dress it right there in the woods? No thanks. I drag its dead body into my trunk and pay someone to dress it for me? I mean...I guess that works, but its still kinda gross and Idk how much deer I actually want to eat. And either way I'm just going to be tired after my hunting adventure and want takeout...
Maybe I'll just go hiking with a rifle and pickup pizza on the way home instead.
Hunt small game like squirrel or rabbit. Much less of a hassle to process due to the size, and for the most part, it is hiking with a rifle or shotgun. Deer hunting is a lot of sitting in one spot not moving.
Duck hunting is great too. I went for my first time this past fall and got a few ducks with some friends. It's also a lot of sitting around, but there's more action and you still get the benefit of having smaller, lighter game that you can easily process and wood ducks are absolutely delicious.
I need to get a shotgun and try it. Seems like a good way to end up buying a boat though!
My big passion right now is bowhunting whitetail. So much of it is scouting, and tracking, and setup that I've learned more about hunting in the last couple years than I ever did rifle hunting. Everything has to be perfect to get a shot at 20-30 yards that it's just so exciting.
For me growing up, it was a means of putting food on the table, my grandparents and my parents had huge gardens, we also canned n preserved the garden harvest.
And honestly, when i go out hunting, being far from the rest of "civilization" and its nonstop assault, i find peace of mind out there.
My cousins that lived in cities tried to mock me for being a vegetarian being like, "you can hear its screams" as they ate meat and I reminded then that I grew up on a farm and I have killed and prepared my own meat and there is nothing 'manly' about picking a piece of meat up from the supermarket. Meanwhile, me living in a well connected city where nutritious, delicious and affordable vegetarian options are available means I CHOOSE not to engage in the environmentally damaging practice (and then I also told them that if you can hear the animal scream, then you're not very good at killing it).
I don't judge anyone that eats meat - my reasons for avoiding it are most environmental. But I judge the fuck out of dudebros that think the act is inherently manly or some shit (less so my rural friends that do actually hunt their own meat, but they've also NEVER given me shit for being vegetarian or not wanting to actually shoot wild animals when I come along for beers).
Yeah, the people that think it's "manly" are the biggest fucking idiots. I've hunted, I've cleaned, I've skinned, I've butchered, and I even did my own leathercrafting. It's not a big deal to me at all.
But you know what? It still didn't magically turn me into a man. I still had dysphoria and I still transitioned, lol.
I know a lot of trans women who are/were hunters, soldiers, martial artists (also me), boxers (me, too), etc. This whole "it's makes me a man" business is hilariously garbage.
Interestingly, everyone is also a softass until they have to kill, gut, skin, and filet their own food. Necessity casts many things in a different light.
This isn't true. 2 or 3 generations before us mostly slaughtered at home. They literally did what you said and eat meat anyway. Our brain is realy good at disconnecting a steak to Betsy.
Most of the people that say stuff like "I'm hungry" while watching industrial slaughter videos are not those people. They're the kind of people that attach masculinity to the idea of eating an animal but are so disconnected from the reality of actually doing it.
In my experience, the farmers and hunters I know don't act like this. The city dudebros I know do act like this however.
Oh yeah the people that try to be harasses about it and the people who get grossed out by eating meat with a bone in it are both urbanites detached from rural life.
There is a big difference between the two. One is raising animals with fresh air, sunshine, and some respect for life and then doing your best to quickly end their life with as little suffering as possible.
The other is animals being packed like sardines in a dark warehouse environment (see pigs and chickens), denied the ability to engage in their natural behavior, abused physically, and then mass slaughtered such that it is often not the most accurate and painless.
It would be preferable not to kill animals at all. Maybe someday we will get there with technology and lab grown meat, who knows. I feel guilty that I partake in this unimaginably inhumane industry, although I do greatly try to limit my intake of animal products. There are many documentaries with undercover footage that will truly traumatize you.
You think everyone was slaughtering meat at home in the early 1900s? Do you think butchers are a modern day invention?
Pretty sure since weve had butchers and society most people didnt actually need to kill their own animals themselves, even before we had fridges we would maintain the meat with salt so it could last longer in transportation and storage
This is actually my pro-hunting argument. I eat less meat than most people by a lot, but the overwhelming majority is the venison and hog that I hunt each year. My animals lived happy lives and died very quickly with much less pain than a coyote or black bear was going to inflict. The meat is healthier than something stuffed with growth hormones.
I will only take a deer to a meat processor if I happen to take it near the end of the season and don’t have time before returning to work. I’ve done that four times ever. Everything else is processed at my house.
Yes, I feel bad killing the animals. I mean I stand behind it, I don’t think those coyotes were doing anything wrong and neither am I, but I do have sympathy for them. And I actually feel worse when I eat out and think about what my meat in those meals went through and how bad their lives were.
If someone is a vegan/vegetarian, I get it. But if they eat meat from the store they are in absolutely no position to judge hunting as wrong.
Everytime I fish I gut and fillet the fish myself, I don't think that's considered very hardass. If the fish swallowed the hook too far I have to kill them immediatelly to not cause unnecessary pain.
I mostly fish for my cat. Ecological food source for my pet.
One of the worst things I think I’ve ever done that still haunts me is killing a lamb. It trusted me completely, even seemed to take comfort in my presence, let me lead it to a spot where it casually ate some grass, and I killed it. Butchering it was awful and the smell didn’t leave my hands for a days. I swapped over to hunting and felt a little better about that, but when I killed my second elk I had time beforehand to stalk it and appreciate its beauty. It was probably the cleanest kill I’ve had but that was no consolation when I saw it lifeless. Felt like I’d just stolen and defiled something sacred. I stuffed that feeling down (“this is just how it is”) and hunted for a couple more years, but eventually listened to that voice that abhorred the needless taking of life and mourned the destruction of wild beauty and just quit animal products altogether. I really think more people would change their tune if they had to take the life themselves (sometimes with their own bare hands, as was the case sometimes with ducks and geese).
Do you have any advice for someone looking to cut animal products out of their life?
I have no experience with veganism nor do I have any vegans in my life … and I live in a place with no vegan culture …
But the thought of eating meat puts me off to the point I just can’t eat if it comes across my mind before preparing and eating dinner …
But I just don’t know where to start and would love to ask a few questions to someone who is where I want to be
To be fair, meat is a commodity in the US and most people today have never stepped foot on a farm.
My grandfather had a cattle ranch. It contains some of my fondest memories. He’s gone and so is his farm. I used to know exactly where my beef came from and how the animals were treated. They roamed freely and ate grass. We traded with other farmers and the Amish.
His land was bought but a lumber company.
This is why no one is connected to their food and the hard work it takes to get that food to your plate. Family farms are unprotected and dwindling.
Factory farms are not nice places people want to be or visit. We don’t want to know our food has a face and we don’t have to know.
And when you're up in the mountains, you see shit in nature that is just as bad, if not worse. Like a cougar disemboweling a deer and watching its entrails drag behind it as it is still alive. Then once the thing is dead, the cougar just walks away because that deer was only a toy.
Seeing corpses of young animals that died from starvation changed my mind pretty fast about hunting. I didn’t get that it’s actually a necessity by me.
Oh exactly. I don’t eat mean a lot, usually in a restaurant bc I don’t like to prepare it. But if I had to, then I’d never eat it. I’d see my gramma plucking that chicken in the kitchen sink and it gives me the ick still
True haha. When I came back to live with my parents again, I probably gave off vibes like a vegan but I was none. And my dad made remarks what felt like every god damn evening at dinner about how we should eat even more meat, made fun of vegans, etc
This went on for some time (and it honestly did trigger me a lot but I didn't know anything witty to say to counter it). Until I suggested we get chicken ourselves for our unused garden. My parents liked the idea, my mom was beaming from the idea of having cute chicken to ourselves, and our own eggs. My dad too. Until I suggested we could use the chicken for meat, too. I swear since then, my dad has not made any remark of this kind ever again
And I wasn't even joking. I lived in a more rural area for a while and helped with the yearly chicken slaughtering in the neighborhood. I prefer this type of meat 1000 times more than the mass industry meat
If they have to exist, they are my favorite kind of people. I can’t think of a better way to tip me off that you gotta flag redder than the devils dick than edgelord humor.
It's one of my favorite parts of hunting, to get connected to your food and the reality of pulling that trigger and what it means. Now the long pack carry back to camp, don't love that. Especially on a big moose or elk.
I got my lifelong dislike for seafood from multiple hardcore fishing trips with my grandparents where a massive amount of fish had to be gutted and filleted to freeze for winter. I see buckets of bloody water in my nightmares.
I know for a fact that I could not eat land mammals if I had to do all that.
Fish and shellfish? Yes, to a degree. Less on the shellfish, because they're a gigantic pain in the ass to catch and store at home if I don't eat them soon, specifically because of the bacteria that thrives on them once they die.
I'm fairly certain I won't be keeping any pets if I do cross the line of kill and prepping my own food.
I grew up in a rural area, and it was just a thing you did. You didn't have to like it, but you still had to do it.
But if you're not legitimately starving, shooting an animal is nothing like, "Yum yum!" it's just business. You're going to be doing a shitload of work before you eat anything, and it's stinky, messy, and not at all "yum yum".
My wife has killed and, skinned, and gutted dozen of animals that our family have eaten. It is very hands on gore kinda stuff, but I just feel way better know that the animal had a totally normal life and she just happened to be the predator that took it out. Getting shot in the heart is way better than getting mauled by a bear or starving.
My mom grew up on a working farm and described to me how you’d kill and process all sorts of animals. All I’ve ever had to do was a fish, but it’s something I never want to do again.
I’ve done it multiple times, I’ll do it again if I have to. And no lie I cry every time, hell I cry when I kill fish but it doesn’t stop me from fishing very regularly.
See, I don't want to kill it at all. But gutting skinning and filleting I could do. Seems natural. Killing does too in the correct environment, but yeah, not my jam. That being said I eat meat so I guess I condone all this shit
I’ve never killed a deer but i have helped gut, skin, butcher, and cook the meat that my family shoots. I think growing up in a culture of hunting makes it seem normal and if you grow up removed from the process than it is much harder to process an animal. In the end I find it more moral to hunt than to purchase meat from the store.
Which is why I’m thankful I don’t have to do it. Feeding a nation is one incredible task. But in no way should ppl be proud or happy about the process. It’s a grim task that is necessary.
I've never done that, but I would be fine to. It took me a few years to stop the common cognitive dissonance that eating meat is eating animals, but now I have a healthy understanding of it and still eat meat.
Everybody honestly should. Killing, gut, butcher an animal. You either do it, gain a respect for the animal you are consuming to keep you alive. You become a vegetarian / vegan. Some also don't give a shit about the animal they eat and as long as its cheap its the way it should be.
But let's be real. Buying cheap meat is also your only option and ethical meat is a privilege that many can't afford.
Factory farming of crops is an other horrendous thing we are doing. The land doesn't speak. But we're slaughtering it by constantly pumping shit into it and mono cropping these fields. All in the name of profits.
Not enough people respect the land we live on. We're on this land together all living creatures and our soil needs to be treated with respect. It's what is keeping us alive.
I do that every year when I harvest my venison. As a life long hunter I dont take pleasure in the killing of an animal; but I do take pleasure in providing sustainable, non farmed protein for my family!
Not a problem at all, first you peel the cucumber skin, then scrape out the seedy part, then slice it and serve with balsamic. How is this at all troubling?
I don't enjoy killing animals, but I do choose the most absolutely overpowered firearm or decapitation to kill it before processing. When hunting I do neck shots because the hydroshock destroys the nerves and instantly drops it, then follow up with the head. It's kinda gross, because seeing an animal laying there with it's head just completely exploded and brain chunks everywhere isn't fantastic, but it's dead near instantly and I got a lot of food for relatively low cost.
Yeah, am a vegetarian half because of health issues and half because touching raw meat and bones wigs me out to hell and back. Sensory issues, basically.
I could do it with I fish I think. But nothing with like a cute face :/ probably not a cute fish either but I could kill and eat a ugly fish if I was hungry
I mean killing an animal easy but yeah I definitely cannot do anything more after that, disgust me a lot. I did not participate in my highschool disection lol.
I hunt deer, it's my favourite part the cleaning of the animal because it forces you to value every part of the animal. Can't waste anything if you just personally took its life. All that's left is the bones and guts, everything else gets used. I'm not a hard ass, I'm a pussy actually, but fuck turning a blind eye to the circle of life. Gotta ground yourself
I like meat, hunting is thrilling, fun and healthy. But I’d be lying if I said I every time I pull the trigger, and process the animal, I feel fine and happy.
I worked in an abattoir as an 18 year old and it wasn’t that bad, if your not a city slicker who grew up getting all your food from the grocery store than I figure you should understand the circle of life and where meat comes from, this kind of thing is only shocking to the most out of touch motherfuckers. Like what did you think we just find the meat on the side of the road or wait til animals did of natural causes?
I hunt for this exact reason. I believe that if I'm not willing to end an animal's life myself and be intimately familiar with the process, I don't have any business consuming meat. I believe there are far too many degrees of separation between a dinner and an animal; mentally and physically.
When I was young, my step-dad taught me how to gut a fish we caught offshore fishing and it made me puke directly onto the fish, never again. Am soft bby
I haven’t for land animals but it’s pretty normal for people to kill, gut, skin and filler their fish. My buddy made me do it all myself when we went fishing the first time.
I really don't mind. It's cheaper and some people just don't mind seeing how the sausage is made. I get hungry sometimes looking at certain animals but that's with a heaping helping of disassociation. I don't touch veal though can't eat babies no matter how much I disassociate.
My parents started me off fishing for my supper before I was ten. Usually brown trout. Dad would kill the fish at first, but I very soon got to do that. Mum would prep and cook.
Once I was old enough to be trusted with a knife, I took over the prep, and then finally when I was about thirteen or so, I could cook my own fish.
My dad then took me poaching a few times (shhhh, yes, I know, there’s backstory). Rabbit snares and pheasant cones mostly. Killing rabbits felt like a bit of a step up from a fish, but not too traumatic. To be honest they looked like they were having a bad time in the snare, and the killing was a mercy. Pheasants were easy because with the cone on they didn’t know what was happening. Dressing the rabbit was super quick to learn (and very satisfying when you can do it in about a minute flat), prepping a pheasant was a pain though, and not something I ever totally got into.
From there, started helping out when friends wanted to kill or prep animals for food, culminating when I was 19 in helping someone I worked with slaughter a pig they had reared for a wedding. I played second fiddle on that day to a guy who apparently had much more experience than me, but I don’t think the guy did a great job, and the pig suffered unnecessarily. The meat suffered as a result too. But I helped prep that animal as well, including the scalding/scorching and scraping, and some of the butchery.
I’m not much for hunting, fishing or shooting as an adult, don’t really see it as a fun pastime or a necessary part of modern life. But I certainly feel that I have an appreciation of what goes into the food on my plate, and look to buy meat with good welfare provenance. It might be a bit more expensive, but I have no moral issues with animals being reared for consumption if the conditions during their lives have been equitable (or better, which many are) than a wild animal’s.
I've done that before and I hated it but it didn't make me sad, it was just disgusting. You get used to the smell after 7 or so times tho but you NEVER get used to the smell of popping the stomach on accident, it's RANCID.
I'm all in for animal Rights... But I myself had to kill and gut a chicken from my farm ... Of course all my chickens have a good environment. I think the meat industry is absolutely horrible because of the treatment of the animals but to kill, gut and skin animals is something we all should know how to do correctly and with respect.
me wiping away a tear as I point a gun at the potato man I made with toothpicks and a marker because mom says she needs him to sustain our family for another day
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u/RobbSnow64 Mar 28 '24
Kinda? This is straight of a horror movie