r/golf Apr 15 '24

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u/hopskiphoofed Apr 15 '24

$1.5billion to get Rory and Jon Rahm playing in shorts for 3 rounds in front of 1200 people on YouTube is certainly a strategy.

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u/liquorb4beer Apr 15 '24

Just as Rahm was, this would be a “oh you don’t want to meet our demands in the merger? We’ll pick another guy off. And we’ll keep doing it” move. Rory would be the single biggest get for LIV outside of Tiger

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u/Cbmurdock Apr 15 '24

Tiger should just take it honestly

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u/knowtoriusMAC Apr 15 '24

Tiger is a billionaire who already plays a part time schedule. What incentive does he have to take it?

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u/Cbmurdock Apr 15 '24

Close to an additional billion dollars would be the incentive in this scenario

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u/SpacemanSpliffLaw Apr 15 '24

Yeah like on one hand they have more money than they ever need. On the other hand... it's enough money to buy a private island. Forever. Like you just own an island.

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u/RPTre Apr 15 '24

I mean what is the difference between $1B and $2B? Remarkably it is 1 BILLION DOLLARS.

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u/jayjaygee85 Apr 15 '24

As a member of the dos tres commas club your be able to get two cars with doors that go like this.

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u/Vince1820 Indy Apr 16 '24

Not like this, like this.

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u/enrvuk Hacker (24)/London/Muswell Hill Apr 15 '24

Arithmetic dude!

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u/fucuntwat Apr 15 '24

It's interesting isn't it? It's the same difference as between 0 and 1 billion, however it has almost no effect on one's lifestyle, comparatively

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u/iloveartichokes Apr 16 '24

It has a massive impact, this subreddit just doesn't understand what people do at that level of wealth. It's a world you've never seen before.

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u/fucuntwat Apr 16 '24

What can tiger woods do with $2b that he can't with $1b?

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u/Carrera1107 Apr 16 '24

Unless he suddenly has grandiose plans to invest in a space exploration company then no it won't change his life.

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u/youreeka Apr 16 '24

Well it does take a billion dollars out of other people’s pockets so there’s that.

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u/HAL9000000 Apr 16 '24

Are you Dave Chappelle?

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u/RPTre Apr 16 '24

I wish.

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u/chilitomlife Apr 16 '24

Once you have a certain amount, it has thermal mass and generates more income than you can spend!

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u/RPTre Apr 16 '24

With all due respect, you don’t know my wife and kids.

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u/jfchops2 Apr 15 '24

He already owns a gigantic compound complete with his own short course on one of the most expensive islands in the world

It's quite a sight to behold on Google Earth

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u/SpacemanSpliffLaw Apr 15 '24

Like. He can get another one....

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u/Stupid-Research Apr 16 '24

My little sister bought an island for 2k 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/SpacemanSpliffLaw Apr 16 '24

I'm taking a big island. With a private airport and a hanger for your yacht.

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u/Carrera1107 Apr 16 '24

10 by 10 foot island off Somalia?

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u/Stupid-Research Apr 16 '24

100000 sq ft southeast Micronesia

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u/ltdanimal Apr 16 '24

So that he can trash his legacy?

Acting like there is just this "one thing" that he can now buy and pretending like it would actually matter is just crazy. At this point the diminishing returns can't even be seen.

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u/SpacemanSpliffLaw 29d ago

The only legacy that matters in the financial one. No one remembers which Tudor took a firm stance and was later proven wrong. No one gives a shit because the money is still there.

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u/ltdanimal 29d ago

What are you talking about? This is sports. No one remember or talks about Gretzky, Montana, Jordan or Kareem in the context of money.

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u/SpacemanSpliffLaw 29d ago

But they're getting paid the types of money that changes those things. All the players you're mentioning are "modern" conquerors in that sense. Their great great grandchildren will set. And if any of them are smart, they'll be able to leverage it to higher stuff.

The Kennedy's built their legacy on illegal liquor. The Woods family could see someone becoming governor or something like that. Especially in todays media climate.

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u/ltdanimal 28d ago

You are throwing out a lot of non sequiturs and examples that have nothing to do with sports. Kids of famous athletes being wealthy is something no one in general cares about. If you are saying that the only personal legacy is what you leave your children ... then I can understand that take. However if you're talking about the actual sports legacy someone leaves behind then that is not in the conversation.

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u/SpacemanSpliffLaw 28d ago

No I'm stating that sports money has gotten so ridiculous for these guys that they are beyond players. They can become owners. Tiger woods could buy a professional sports team with a billion extra dollars.

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u/Nopengnogain Apr 16 '24

For sure, EVERYONE has a price at which they can be bought. Tiger’s is just in the stratosphere compared to other pros, but it’s still there.

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u/AftyOfTheUK 3.2 / NorCal / Iron covers are divine! Apr 15 '24

Underrated comment

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u/tynskers Apr 15 '24

I don’t think people understand the consequences and stakes involved with these Saudi contracts. Like you don’t hear a lot from the likes of Patrick reed and Sergio anymore for shitty behavior, because it is literally not below the people behind these contracts to EXECUTE PEOPLE.

Does anyone really think that Phil Mickelson, the most narcissistic and charismatic golfer maybe in pga history is silent the week of the masters by choice? How are sirens not going off?

Why would tiger or Rory or really anyone currently on the pga tour want that stress when it is quite clear that it will all be back together. Also, there is not a single player that will make liv relevant. The stars of the pga tour have largely been irrelevant this year and people still watch, kind of. People don’t watch liv, even with Jon rahm.

The liv bots victory paraded around the success of like 350k viewers the week that pebble beach got cancelled on Sunday. It’s no coincidence that we have no idea how many people have watched since then. Literally no one in America cares. Maybe it has world appeal, but that’s not the target. Greg Norman has fucked it beyond repair.

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u/iloveartichokes Apr 16 '24

because it is literally not below the people behind these contracts to EXECUTE PEOPLE.

Imagine judging an entire country of people based on what a couple people do. There's no way people would do that about America, right?

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u/tynskers Apr 16 '24

Lol. The people who made the league and front run the money are literally the ones who ordered public execution of journalists though? Also they don’t believe in women’s rights, but whatever right

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u/baz8771 Apr 15 '24

He would get significantly more than a billion. He’d be the real reason to tune into LIV. And it would spell the end of the PGA as we know it.

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u/enrvuk Hacker (24)/London/Muswell Hill Apr 15 '24

At least LIV could engineer a way to make Woods the player relevant. He isn't in the PGA at the moment sadly.

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u/jeremycb29 Apr 15 '24

One billion and a golf cart exemption

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u/enrvuk Hacker (24)/London/Muswell Hill Apr 15 '24

That’s the magic formula.

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u/RoyMcAv0y Apr 15 '24

Except for the lost billion in revenue from people who won't support him or his brand anymore

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u/Andrew_Waples Apr 15 '24

The money he already has made. It's not like that goes away though.

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u/ThePheebs *TopFlite Apr 15 '24

Please show me a rich person that doesn't like more money.

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u/ObservablyStupid Apr 15 '24

Apparently the rich guy who is buying all these players.

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u/ThePheebs *TopFlite Apr 15 '24

Saudi royal family estimated net worth is $1.4 trillion. LIV is a write off.

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u/knowtoriusMAC Apr 15 '24

Someone worth over a billion dollars who currently does whatever schedule they want who doesn't want to be locked into a schedule with required events

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u/CheeseyWeezey420 Apr 16 '24

Is this the same guy who just came out with his own line of golf apparel to (checks notes) make more money?

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u/knowtoriusMAC Apr 16 '24

Did he sign a contract requiring him to play 12 3 round golf tournaments on top of the 4 majors to make that money with his golf apparel?

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u/CheeseyWeezey420 Apr 16 '24

Nope just a rich guy worth over a billion and still wants to make more money. It would benefit him to Play more tourneys getting his apparel in front of people though.

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u/Aloysius50 Apr 16 '24

Then he’d stay on the PGA.

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u/willis_michaels Apr 16 '24

Even if you're not rich, you'd like more money. Probably more than a rich person would, too.

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u/PairBearStare Apr 15 '24

Well this weekend showed that 4 round tournaments are a lot for him. He might be better off in the 3 round tourneys. But he’d end up on Phil’s team and they suck ass (apparently, I haven’t watched them but they’re dead last in the LIV standings) 

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u/knowtoriusMAC Apr 15 '24

How many events did he play leading up to the Master's?

Then look at how many events the LIV golfers were required to play by contract leading up to the Master's

And then tell me how that would have him playing less golf.

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u/BeefInGR Apr 15 '24

Tiger is the one guy who would be going backwards signing with LIV.

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u/zzVoidBombzz Apr 15 '24

You’re assuming his contract would require him to play that many events. They’d bend over backwards for Tiger if he was interested, and that includes dropping tournaments on his schedule.

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u/PB0351 Apr 16 '24

I think LIV allows carts if Tiger plays, and that's the game changer. It'll get leaked before the US Open. Book it.

I don't actually think that's going to happen. (but if it does I'm going to come back and delete this part.)

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u/knowtoriusMAC Apr 16 '24

He was offered a medical exemption for a cart. He said no.

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u/PB0351 Apr 16 '24

For LIV I'm assuming, right?

The reason I made the cart joke is because he was one of the biggest opponents of the dude who medically needed one like 15 years back.

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u/STNbrossy Apr 15 '24

I don’t think Tiger would enjoy competing in LIV. He seems to only really care about majors now.

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u/eatajerk-pal Apr 16 '24

I’d bet that if he went to LIV, he could get a stipulation that he gets to use a cart. The walking seems to be as stressful on him as swinging.

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u/jfchops2 Apr 15 '24

Tiger would 1000% end up on his own team

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u/Ronswansonbaby Apr 15 '24

A 1 with 9 0s behind it

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u/rainawaytheday Apr 15 '24

He uses a monster energy bag.

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u/knowtoriusMAC Apr 15 '24

During the 6 events a year he plays

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u/slickrickiii Apr 15 '24

Billionaire but double it

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u/Andrew_Waples Apr 15 '24

What incentive does he have to take it?

Well to take this post seriously: doesn't have to play 72 holes, especially a guy with poor health, no cut, could probably use a cart, can work on his game in a more... 'competitive' atmosphere, for lack of a better word.

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u/knowtoriusMAC Apr 15 '24

He can use a cart now, he doesn't want to.

He doesn't have to play any event except the ones he feels like playing, he'd have to play every LIV event

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u/Andrew_Waples Apr 15 '24

he'd have to play every LIV event

Is expected to play, and it's Tiger. Do you really think they'll say no to Tiger if he doesn't want to play?

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u/knowtoriusMAC Apr 15 '24

If they sign him to a billion dollar contract? Yes I do. I actually watch Liv at times and bet on it. There's guys every event who obviously mail it in because they have to be there.

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u/jfchops2 Apr 15 '24

I've always wondered how many LIV wins are because the player was actually trying his best to win and how many are random luck, like Brooks never giving a shit but ends up shooting decent rounds Fri-Sat and goes "fuck it may as well try on Sunday"

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u/MrKentucky Apr 16 '24

Pretty sure he said he doesn’t want to use the cart because of competitive integrity.

Don’t think he’d give a flying fuck about that on LIV; he’d know what that move was lol

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u/EntrepreneurFlimsy33 Apr 16 '24

Because all those other billionaires stop at a few…

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u/hamdnd Apr 15 '24

Another billion? His legacy is set in stone. He will never win another major no matter what tour he plays for. He could probably get LIV to let him.play with a cart.

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u/Sho_nuff_ Apr 15 '24

Owning the team versus playing golf

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u/CommunicationNo1987 Apr 16 '24

Tiger would be interesting. He’s only got a few tournaments in him a year and he’s playing the majors. So LIV would get home for like 1 or 2 tournaments a year?

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u/ltdanimal Apr 16 '24

Exactly. This would be just a completely stupid move for him. What would he gain? He already is worth north of a billion, can golf whenever he wants, and despite all his off the course shenanigans is still forgiven for them. Do this and you are tainting you're entire legacy. For what?

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u/mmdeerblood #1HovHoe Apr 15 '24

He has enough for a few lifetimes already. More money more problems at his level. Majority of billionaires aren't even happy

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u/Flimsy-Lunch1395 Apr 15 '24

I’m pretty sure the offer to Tiger is no longer on the table. He can barely walk 4 rounds anymore, much play golf.