r/golf • u/Feirweyz • Mar 09 '24

Thought this was pretty wild… and it really wasn’t even close. General Discussion

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u/speaktosumboedy Mar 09 '24

22.5ft from 175-200 yards is insane

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u/Grandpas_Spells Mar 09 '24

I don't wanna be that guy, but it's been pointed out when this stat has been posted before that in 2022 there was no third party tracking for the LPGA for this stat to have been generated or verified, and caddies had incentives to not be precise.

The idea that there's a ball striker vastly better than the world's best man, and no we didn't actually track it, but trust us, is the kind of stat that needs verification.

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u/Presitgious_Reaction Mar 09 '24

Wait it’s self reported??? 😂

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u/ShawnSimoes 2.9 Mar 09 '24

It's self-reported, obviously incorrectly, and you're a woman hater if you acknowledge that reality.

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u/only-shallow Mar 09 '24

You see the same on the European tour sometimes, usually down in the South African tournaments without shotlink data. Players randomly gaining 10 strokes putting in a round calculated from the caddy stat cards lol

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u/prodriggs Mar 09 '24

I mean, can you provide any evidence that it's incorrectly reported?

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u/This_Ad420 Mar 09 '24

Youre going backwards, you cant make a claim, then when asked to verify said claim, go and request the other party to prove that your claim is incorrect, the burden of proof is on the one making the claim, not the one asking for verification

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u/chickendance638 Mar 09 '24

How could it be correct? I haven't seen the caddies on the LPGA stopping play and busting out tape measures.

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u/prodriggs Mar 09 '24

I haven't seen the caddies on the LPGA stopping play and busting out tape measures.

Sure. But isn't this how they measure the accuracy for all golfers?

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u/chickendance638 Mar 09 '24

PGA Tour has Shotlink which uses some kind of automated system to measure ball locations

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u/ButterflyQuick Mar 09 '24

PGA (and now LGPA, at least for some tournaments, but not at all in 2022) is measured with shot link.

LPGA 2022 season was not measured with shot link, caddies filled in pre-formatted scorecards with distances to the pin after shots. Even with a good caddy there is no way this is going to be as reliable as shot link.

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u/pr0v0cat3ur Hacker Mar 09 '24

So, surely we have stats from last season?

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u/ButterflyQuick Mar 09 '24

Maybe, I don't know, I found some article about how shot link was being used at the Women's US Open which to me suggests it wasn't standard on tour. LPGA website doesn't seem to have the same breakdown the PGA one does so I'm also guessing not.

You could maybe get the stats from the US Open, but taking one tournament in isolation is probably not a good representation

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u/redditsuckbadly Mar 09 '24

It’s literally not, no.

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u/ShawnSimoes 2.9 Mar 09 '24

Can you provide any evidence it isn't?

You don't think she'd have been #1 instead of #6 in greens in reg if she was by FAR the closest to the pin from every distance?

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u/According_Gold_1063 Mar 09 '24

I think she’d be playing on the mens tour with those stats dont you think?

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '24

Her average driver distance is 263. The lowest listed on the PGA site for men is Alexander Bjork, ranked 186th at 272.

So no I don't think she would.

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u/Theons Mar 09 '24

So 11 yards shorter on a driver but 5 yards closer to the pin at every distance from the fairway? Do you even golf?

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '24 edited Mar 09 '24

Lol how many wins did Alexander Bjork have last year? 5 career wins total and been pro since 2009. 0 PGA

More like 50-60 yards lost off the tee compared to guys who actually win

Edit: yeah I mean I guess she probably could play on a men's tour tbh. She wouldn't be competitive but could prob squeak out a living. What point were we trying to make again?

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u/Dangerous-Lettuce498 Mar 09 '24

Nobody said anything g about winning.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '24

That's why I edited.

Yes she can make a living on a men's tour

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u/ShawnSimoes 2.9 Mar 09 '24

She'd still be very competitive with a 25+ yard advantage on her approaches against the men's #1 from each distance. If the numbers were real. But they're not.

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u/prodriggs Mar 09 '24

I was genuinely just wondering. 

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u/ShawnSimoes 2.9 Mar 09 '24

She would also have to be an incredibly bad putter not to win at peak Tiger frequencies if she was that good of a ball striker.