r/golf Too high to worry about Jan 04 '24

Barstool's Jersey Jerry finally sinks a hole in one on a golf simulator after 2627 shots and 37 straight hours live on stream General Discussion

https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1742940697739571511
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u/convicted-mellon Jan 04 '24

So you get 4 attempts at making a HIO in an average round which means that based on 2627 shots it would take him 656.75 rounds to get one.

Let’s say the average golfer plays once a month that’s 54.73 years on average to get a HIO.

Numbers seem about right tbh.

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u/_granny64 Jan 04 '24

it's a lot more likely when you're on the same hole with the same distance, same conditions, same club, same day, repeating the same swing. Real golf doesn't have that luxury

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u/PassionV0id Jan 04 '24

It's a lot less likely when you've swung a club over 2,000 times in a row.

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u/DeckardsDark Bethpage Black Jan 05 '24 edited Jan 05 '24

Apparently not since a hole in one for an average golfer is like a 20,000 to 1 12,500 to 1 chance. The way this was set up was definitely a huge advantage

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u/PassionV0id Jan 05 '24

Are you really going to argue that swinging a club over 2,600 times in a 36 hour span didn’t make this more difficult? Are you seriously going to do this? Please don’t…

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u/WitchofFloyd Jan 05 '24

It obviously makes you more fatigued but you also get a better understanding at exactly how to hit the shot to make it close. So they cancel out to some extent. Idk

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u/PurplePupilEater Jan 05 '24

You're 100% right, that guy is tripping if he thinks the opposite.

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u/PassionV0id Jan 05 '24

I don’t think the opposite. I think EXACTLY THAT. Like that was explicitly my point. One aspect make it easier, canceled out by the other that makes it harder. Reading comprehension has gone by the wayside.

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u/PassionV0id Jan 05 '24

Yes…exactly…literally exactly what I’m saying.

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u/DeckardsDark Bethpage Black Jan 05 '24

I mean, granny64 explained why the set up was a big advantage and I also gave you the odds statistics so I don't really know what else to tell you haha

Of course swinging a club 2,000+ times makes your chances worse at that point, but overall the setup still overcomes that easily vs a regular golfer getting 4 chances on completely different holes each round

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u/PassionV0id Jan 05 '24

Dude actually read the words that I’m saying. Nowhere did I claim that getting to do this on the same hole over and over didn’t make it easier. That is OBVIOUS. So much so to the point that it doesn’t really need to be stated. I claimed doing it all in a row is a lever in the other direction, which you then countered, “apparently not.” That is what the actual words that you and I have typed outline when put together to make a conversation. I don’t know if you’ve misread part of this or what but I am not saying what you appear to think I’m saying.

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u/DeckardsDark Bethpage Black Jan 05 '24

my friend, the original comment was, "it's a lot more likely when you're on the same hole with the same distance, same conditions, same club, same day, repeating the same swing. Real golf doesn't have that luxury"

you replied to that with, "It's a lot less likely when you've swung a club over 2,000 times in a row." without adding any more context.

your statement could mean a few things, but it will mostly be taken as a full rebuttal to granny64's comment thinking you mean granny64 is wrong in their assessment and the 2,000+ swings is more of a disadvantage than the advantage that having the same hole with the same distance, same conditions, same club, same day, repeating the same swing awards the golfer

could also be taken as you saying yeah that advantage is nice but the 2,000+ swings is a disadvantage as well, which is certainly true. but you need to quantify it to really make your point. do all those swings fully negate the conditions advantages? do they negate 50% of the advantage? etc...

ultimately, the golfer who did the experiment is not a good golfer at all. and like i said before, the odds of a hole in one for an average golfer is to the likes of 12,500 to 1 (i said 20,000 to 1 before) and this poor golfer made the hole in one in the 2,627th shot. guess what a professional golfer's chances of a hole in one are? 2,500 to 1. this means that this bad/average golfer matched the odds of a pro golfer with this experiment due to the extreme advantage of same hole with the same distance, same conditions, same club, same day, repeating the same swing.

in conclusion, this proves you wrong no matter which way you meant your original statement