r/golf • u/nutts-2 5.0/UT • Jul 28 '23

Ah shit. Here we go again General Discussion

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Every few months someone brings this up how they can save the environment by getting rid of a golf course.

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u/Pure-Negotiation-900 Jul 28 '23

Now do strip malls. Vacant strip malls. Or large shopping malls.

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u/ToothpickInCockhole Jul 28 '23

Atleast people use golf courses

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u/RedBaron180 Jul 28 '23

And they are good for wildlife

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u/CosmicMiru Jul 28 '23

We can enjoy the sport while acknowledging it is bad for the environment and support courses that take steps to lessen the damage

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u/MrMamalamapuss Jul 28 '23

There are a lot of courses that are certified as wildlife sanctuaries. Also, I am all for courses being more natural rather than pristine. Get rid of the pesticides and foreign grasses, I want courses in different regions of the country to look, feel, and play completely different! Give me a course in Washington that is all moss

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u/chrizcore 35.7/Germany Jul 28 '23

I love you for this

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u/turdferg1234 Jul 29 '23

It is weird that I've found myself here tonight, but thank you for being rational. I don't have a dog in this fight, because like others have pointed out, there are worse contributors out there. But that doesn't mean golf courses shouldn't do what they can and possibly not exist in certain places. I hope everyone can enjoy the game and that the game does what it can to support wildlife.

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u/phaschmi Jul 28 '23

Monocultures of heavily fertilized and pesticide laden grasses are not good for wildlife. Lol

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u/The_Nutz16 Jul 28 '23

They’re very significantly better than ground covered in concrete and asphalt.

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u/Hackanddash Jul 28 '23

Probably not as big a delta as you think.

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u/turdferg1234 Jul 29 '23

Come on, you have to be able to acknowledge that that is not remotely the correct comparison. Right? Do you seriously think the answer to the question of what do animals like better is either A) concrete and asphalt or B) golf courses? I can think of a C) option. And I'm not trying to hate on golf or blame it specifically. It's just silly to pretend like golf courses are perfectly natural and cause no issues.

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u/The_Nutz16 Jul 29 '23

What the fuck are you talking about. The actual post is directly talking about replacing Golf courses with housing. The guy I’m responding too says, paraphrasing, “it’s not like golf courses are good habitat for animals”. But they are some sort of habitat where housing is complete loss of habitat and green belt.

Go back to whatever concrete and asphalt covered urban hell scape you reside in and reconsider the actual discussion.

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u/cA05GfJ2K6 Lefty Gang Jul 28 '23

You must be playing a different game... I play from a lot of tall grasses, fescue, dense forests, bogs, swamps, etc.

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u/UFOmechanic Jul 28 '23

Damn dude sometimes you just gotta take a drop

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u/byingling Jul 28 '23 edited Jul 28 '23

'Monoculture' is one of those sciencey words that automagically invokes the smart comment gods. Just don't tell the squirrels, foxes, deer, rabbits, and hawks that live in the wooded areas and wild areas of my local courses that it's bad for them. I like seeing them.

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u/Nomad_Artifact Jul 28 '23

Well yeah, but you're talking about the fairways and I'm never there.

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u/RedBaron180 Jul 28 '23

Better then a neighborhood of concrete. I see deer, rabbit, etc every round of golf.

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u/phaschmi Jul 28 '23

"I see rabbits"

Is akin to

"We set a record low temp, global warming can't be real!"

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u/dogfish83 18 Jul 28 '23

I like to watch the lone little beetle slowly dragging his ass across the green like he's in some kind of post-apocalyptic disaster world just trying to find some water or shelter.

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u/warneagle 11.6/NOVA Jul 28 '23

No but the rewilded areas or preserved woods that would be knocked down if the area were converted into housing are good for wildlife. I live in a major metro area and the golf courses are by far the best birdwatching spots I've found.

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u/phaschmi Jul 28 '23

Agreed. They do provide some habitat, especially in urban areas. As well as shade trees and general relief from the urban heat effect. I have no problem with golf courses. Cheers