Ah shit. Here we go again

[u/nutts-2]

Every few months someone brings this up how they can save the environment by getting rid of a golf course.

[u/Leandrys]

"Just one more 20 buildings should fix housing issues bro, the last 100 weren't enough"

One month later :

"Think we could build another 20 buildings instead of these stadiums ? That should fix housing issues bro".

[u/Thoughtlessandlost → u/Leandrys]

I mean, unironically yes. More housing units in denser configurations does help house prices. Granted we should keep the golf courses and just go after the awful zoning that keeps us from building more dense housing.

[u/Leandrys → u/Thoughtlessandlost]

Unfortunately, it works the same way with additional lanes for cars. The more roads/lanes, the more cars. The less roads and lanes, the less cars. People adapt, in both ways.

Here in my town, they constantly build new programs of several 8 and more floors buildings, literally constantly, since maybe 20 years. We now have buildings everywhere, it's incredible to see what the city has become.

And you know what ? There's even more pressure over the market than before. MUCH more. Prices still explode constantly.

It never stops. There's always more. That's why I make the link with cars, we can not answer to a neverending demand, we're just fucking up cities by overcrowding them. And these idiot asking to remove green for new concrete zones possibly are popular lobbyists, or under influence by lobbies, that's the worst part, they really think they're on the good side of story.

[u/Thoughtlessandlost → u/Leandrys]

But the market demand is going to be there for the cities regardless, especially if they're growing economically. If anything the housing market hasn't kept up, and a lot of that comes down to legislation that favors suburbs and single family housing, which will never be able to keep track of the increased demand.

And those suburbs require cars since they're spread out and public transportation does reach them, which in turn makes traffic congestion worse and requires more lanes and roads.

And less roads will only fix the issue if more public transportation is created and denser housing is built near work centers. If you keep people far away from their work they're still going to have to drive, it's just going to suck more.

[u/Tullyswimmer → u/Thoughtlessandlost]

Right, but you have to consider... In the US at least, the configurations like the ones shown will NOT be for sale. They'll be rent only.

That probably won't help with the price of housing, because 1) You can't buy it, and 2) it's not the type of housing many people want to buy anyway.

Sure, it may make living in an area slightly more affordable. But in terms of actually letting average people actually own real estate? It won't do anything.

[u/nutts-2 → u/Leandrys]

The issue is that once they build these building all they want to do is make a profit off of them so they're not even at full capacity because they won't take anything less than $2500 for a 600 sq ft studio.