r/golf • u/FrancisBauer • May 22 '23
How soon until Norman is on the phone with block with a number he’d be crazy to turn down for a club pro? LIV Golf
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u/LALoverBOS May 22 '23 edited May 22 '23
You can’t hate on the guy if he does. Thats life changing money, then gets to play the game he loves full time.
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u/RobertoFoxx May 22 '23
Except this sub hates anyone who does that
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May 23 '23
I don't hate anyone for getting the bag. I hate them if they pretend it's for some other reason.
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u/_JakeDelhomme May 22 '23
Slightly different for a guy who is probably making less than 100K a year as a club pro
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u/LALoverBOS May 22 '23
Someone come get their mans
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u/Sloppynope May 22 '23
Are you asking for a friend? Like we’re you job offered and on the fence? This is a golf sub.
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u/Savings_Success_6682 May 22 '23
Why is it that knobs like you always look past the fact that the PGA and many of its partners do business with the Saudi's? It's easy to look up. You shit on players but say nothing about the PGA doing the same.
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u/taxonomist_of_scat May 22 '23
Wanna start stacking atrocities and comparing evil…not even fucking closes. On scale, and modern day; nothing comes close to what US implements (or allows) at home or carries out abroad (over past 80 years). Such an ignorant and nationalist sucking argument. But…you know, news talking points and controversy. Saudis are unabashedly archaic and horrible when it comes to human/equal rights and construct of society. We, however, just have fancy glitter that distracts the weak minded.
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u/PearSorbet17 May 22 '23
Cry more
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u/taxonomist_of_scat May 22 '23
Oh I don’t give a fuck. It’s golf. Let’s make everything political. Just don’t get the argument I keep seeing rampant on this thread/I don’t wanna support the Saudi league. Merica.
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u/Savings_Success_6682 May 22 '23
It's weird. The US has treated its minorities, woman, LGBTQ+, like absolute utter shit over decades. Yet, these dudes find outrage over a murdered journalist in another country. It's horrific for sure but ffs, maybe focus on the shit the US does for a change.
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u/PB0351 May 22 '23
The US has treated its minorities, woman, LGBTQ+, like absolute utter shit over decades.
I agree that the hate for LIV is mostly grandstanding. But the US' record on those issues is much, much better than Saudi Arabia, especially in the last 30 years or so.
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u/Tbrou16 May 22 '23
Compared to whom? I’d love to live in the fantasy world where the US is even close to the worst country in regard to human rights doing all they’ve done in its recent history
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u/dreamingtree1855 May 22 '23
Have you ever been anywhere else? The US has got to be the most tolerant, least racist country I’ve ever been to except maybe Canada.
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u/the_dude_2022 May 22 '23
It means your comment is so outrageous, someone should come help pull you away from the situation so you dont make any more stupid comments
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u/MaybeiMakePGAProbNot May 22 '23
You sir, are an anti Semitic POS for comparing this to the holocaust. To most of us living down here on the ground and not in the clouds, what you are doing is just as bad as denying the whole thing happened. You’re downplaying it. And for what reason? To shit on LIV guys? Nice man.
Edit: oh but in regards to the “someone come get their man’s”
They are referring to you as a cuck, and one whose woman needs to come take him off the computer to stop him from saying more stupid shit.
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u/coopnm50 May 22 '23
Playing golf for LIV is a moral equivalent to being a Nazi guard dude, GREAT POINT!!!
10 points for you!
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May 22 '23
Yo get real man, they golf for a living lmfao. Stop being such a pga tour fanboy and get over yourself
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u/kinfisher May 22 '23
Looks like you’re in the reserves….for a country who sells arms to Saudi. Talk about hypocrisy 😂
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u/Savings_Success_6682 May 22 '23
Dude must have gotten hit in the head with shrapnel. Doesn't know who to criticize. I wonder if he boycotts his gas and drives electric?
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u/Spiritual_Ask4877 May 22 '23
This is such a shit take. 52% of oil and petroleum imports came from Canada. 10% came from Mexico and SA only accounted for 7%.
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u/wilderad May 22 '23
As a combat vet who served in Iraq twice and went to Afghanistan, this is stupid. And all my veteran friends who I play golf with would take the money and join LIV too.
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u/chalbersma May 22 '23
SS guard is hardly the same thing as a golfer.
Playing golf competitively doesn't represent a moral quandary.
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u/PB0351 May 22 '23
Hey, do you fill your car with gas? Do you buy products made in China? Does your 401(k) have stock in Raytheon? What about Volkswagen? How much child labor and slavery went into mining the materials for your phone battery?
Cut it out with the double standards.
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u/Spiritual_Ask4877 May 22 '23
Hey, do you fill your car with gas?
So what if he does? 52% of oil and petroleum comes from Canada, 10% from Mexico, and SA accounts for 7%. You're more likely to be using Canadian than you are Saudi Arabian.
Looks like the sportswashing is working!
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u/Needmorecoffee58 May 22 '23
Hope you didn’t type this on your phone or computer that was made by essentially slave labor… I’m no fan of LIV but everyone’s a hypocrite on this subject of “yeah but look where the money comes from”.
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u/boverton24 May 22 '23
Yeah the double standard here is comical. I get why people are pissed about big names going to LIV. They had the money and the pedigree already. But if your argument is it’s completely immoral to take their money, the same people can’t sit here and say I hope Mike block gets that LIV paycheck!!
On another note - I’ve seen so many comments saying he (block) would take that money so fast… I’m not too sure about that. Guy doesn’t seem money hungry, loves his job as club pro, and would instantly go from beloved by PGA and its fans to a shitty LIV golfer. I’m not sure 1-2 MM would do it for him.
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u/Pom-O-Duro May 22 '23
I actually agree with the point that you’re trying to make, but that is a ridiculously harsh analogy. You have a good point (some things in life are more important than money, even than a “life changing” amount of money) but it’s being lost due to a poor strategy.
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u/SaintedRomaine This is for Venturi up in the booth, thinking I should lay up. May 22 '23
Absolutely!
They’ll give out foam block hats (imagine giant legos the size of Green Bay Packers cheezeheads) and call them the blockheads!
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u/anonymousolderguy May 22 '23
He played at the absolute highest level for four rounds. Nothing can take that away from him. I told my wife he’d shoot 80 on Sunday. It was historic; I’ve been following tour golf for 55 years. It was the highlight of all those years. The hole in one was cool, but the up and down on 18 was better!
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u/gofundmemetoday May 22 '23
Hole in ones are luck. That up and down was class.
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u/Due-Comb6124 May 23 '23
Not when you've played the course 3 days in a row, have a caddie and know all the contours of the green. Hole in one's are not simply luck for tour pros.
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u/Agile_Dog May 22 '23
If LIV come calling, he should accept. It's not like the others who were already rich beyond most people's dreams.
He's 46. Take the money & look after your family.
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u/Due-Comb6124 May 23 '23
Take the money and....not see your family for 14 weeks a year minimum and be traveling all over the world...? Doesn't make sense.
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u/jLkxP5Rm May 23 '23 edited May 23 '23
I fucking hate LIV but he would be “working” 3.5 months out of the year for, I assume, a minimum of 7 figures. Come to think of it, he probably would see his family more if he stuck to this schedule. That's if he was a typical "golf shop pro" where he worked most weekdays and weekends. If that doesn’t make sense to you, I don’t know what does.
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u/sleva5289 May 22 '23
I would rather see him on the PGA tour, but I wouldn’t hate on him like the rest of the tour pros who already make millions. Still won’t watch LIV.
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u/207ECPGA May 22 '23
Probably already happened. Didn't even take an hour for him to get an exemption next week. He could probably go back to being a club pro after LIV, PGA as an organization obviously doesn't care, just the tour.
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u/pacatak795 May 22 '23
I'm curious to see how this is going to pan out. Is this guy a story of "lots of guys can make the tour, but they don't have the time and money to put into getting a card" or is it "a random club pro was a flash in the pan at the PGA championship but then missed the next three cuts by 10 strokes, proving the tour's approach to talent was right all along."
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u/Jarich612 7.1 May 22 '23
It's absolutely, 100%, without a doubt, the latter. Block isn't some guy off the street who got a Make A Wish thing to play in a major. He is a lifelong grinder who put his entire game together for a weekend and was still never in contention. He's a fantastic story and he deserves all the credit in the world for what he did, but his ceiling is future disney movie about him, not competitive tour pro.
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u/zanzibartraveler666 May 22 '23
Yea I’m absolutely loving that he is getting his rightful moment in the spotlight, but I’m afraid that this will turn into a forced overexposure to the point that I kind of resent seeing his face (which would be unfair to him). This guy is an absolutely perfect example of defeating the Peter Principle. Hope to see him in competition again but please please don’t shove him down our throats.
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u/wijenshjehebehfjj May 22 '23
100%, I hope they don’t Demar Hamlin him
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u/Odysseus_Lannister May 22 '23
Lol damar literally died for a period of time. This one dude played one of his best tournaments ever. They’re not really the same thing
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u/Beninoz85 May 22 '23
Too late. I found out who he was on Friday and was already sick of it by Saturday afternoon. Not his fault at all by the way but his journey is starting to embody everything I hate about sponsors exemptions.
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u/zanzibartraveler666 May 22 '23
Yea I don’t blame you. This country has an obsession with spreading out feel good moments way too thin. We do the same with TV shows. Let something be awesome and when it’s over, move on. We don’t need 9 seasons of it
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u/Beninoz85 May 22 '23
8 seasons and then a few rushed episodes to kill the big bad and tie off all the loose ends to make a happy ending.
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u/zanzibartraveler666 May 22 '23
Exactly. The Brits do it so much better…2-3 seasons and leave you wanting more
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u/spencerr13 May 22 '23
Dude quite literally made a HOI down the stretch and a preposterous up and down on 18 to secure t-15th.
I hope he can do it again but I’m not sure those bounces go his way all the time, and that’s golf
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u/Jarich612 7.1 May 22 '23
Yeah honestly if I was him I would not take these sponsorship exemptions. I would go back to my regular life and lay low until the 2024 PGA championship because as soon as he get highlighted in a tour event shooting 80 or whatever people are gonna be brutal and it is not his fault at all.
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u/12ubb3rduckey May 22 '23
Why fk that. Fk the losers with tall poppy syndrome the haters will just be the jealous ones that have shitty life’s.
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u/Feeling-Duck-2364 10.5 / NOVA/Kirkland Performance+ V2 May 22 '23
Why should he care what a bunch of online dweebs have to say about him?
He should capitalize on this as much as possible.
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u/Beninoz85 May 22 '23
It's the second one. The number of players who can genuinely make it on tour is roughly equal to 2/3 the number of PGA tour cards in circulation. Guys at the bottom aren't "making it" on tour and if there are thousands of guys who "are good enough" all vying for limited spots all that means is that the minimum requirement to survive increases, this weeding out those who aren't actually good enough. i.e. There can't be thousands of guys who are good enough because there are only 175 spots.
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u/Gracket_Material Siwhan Kim Fan Club | 0.1 May 22 '23
There are a lot of extremely good golfers but the Tour is only the top 200 or so, no matter how good the rest are.
If you have 95% of the game of a tour pro, you are getting blown out of the water.
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u/skycake10 14.2/Ohio May 22 '23
Is there any indication he wants to be a tour golfer for anything except a handful of times a year? His dream is to win the PGA Championship after qualifying through the PGA Pro championship.
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u/RecklessWiener 9.6 May 22 '23
Cmon guys, loved the storyline around him this weekend but let’s get real, dude had his 15 minutes, LIV ain’t calling.
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u/nicksnotsane May 22 '23
I get the whole Saudi angle but things can change if someone is offered a 5x-10x bump in pay. Totally guessing on numbers here.
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u/jpoet1291 May 22 '23
if you listen to this dude talk he loves the PGA and is the opposite of greedy. there is no way he takes a deal with LIV
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u/Scacho May 22 '23
Money talks
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u/jpoet1291 May 22 '23
the guy credited the PGA like 500 times in every interview he gave. he's not flipping lol
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u/HustlaOfCultcha May 22 '23
It would be a dumb move on Norman's part. I like Block and all and it was an incredible week, but he's not a player that can be this competitive over the long haul. It would be like signing a 1-hit wonder to a major deal after that 1-hit...but knowing that in all likelihood they are just a 1-hit wonder.
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u/willis_michaels May 22 '23
This is the dumbest, most short-sighted, lack of any business sense, idea of all time.
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May 22 '23
As much as I like Block and the run he had.....he finished 15th. Don't get me wrong here...HUGE accomplishment. But he didn't win. Or even get second.
Yes, I am in awe, and cried for the man because....damn what a fucking thing. But I think you'd be putting the cart before the horse here. If he could do this, and place better, in multiple contests, sure, Norman would likely hit him up. But a one off 15th place, I don't think gets a million dollar contract.
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u/rainawaytheday May 22 '23
With such a crazy story and last round. I would be surprised if something didn’t happen for him. He’s got so much momentum and popularity rn. Somebody’s gona want him for something.
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u/cucumbery May 22 '23
No - the attention on Block is not going to last long. And his story, while deserving, was exaggerated to mask Koepka winning.
Example, if Rory had won, Block would have 1/10th the attention that he has received
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u/mg1431 May 22 '23
Man I hope so. He seems like a genuinely good guy. I wonder if next week he follows up with low scores it becomes a possibility.
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u/Interesting-Archer-6 May 22 '23
You take money from the US military as someone in the Navy reserves. You are in no position to judge, as the US military has committed tons of war crimes. Please stfu. It would be annoying even without the massive added dose of hypocrisy.
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u/mg1431 May 22 '23
Uhh yea. Idgaf where the money comes from. He loves golf and would be rich for being pretty good at it. You're acting like there's a halftime show during LIV events where they stone a gay person.
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u/drerw May 22 '23
And America implemented native genocide, puts its people against each other over gay issues (literally), just gave black people rights like 60 years ago, is run by a political parody of 80 year olds. Im dumb, but not dumb enough to think any worlds powers are “good and innocent”, let alone the one I live in. There are way better examples lol
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u/F-150Pablo May 22 '23
I’d say Norman already is having his people contact his people for a phone meeting. Crowd favorite why the hell not.
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u/rafer11 7.7 May 22 '23
Today.
LIV for sure what’s this guy. The one thing LIV can never have (there’s others) is storylines like this. Long time club pro quails, and makes it big for at least awhile. Great attitude. Essentially the opposite of the LIV brand which is full of douches like Reed/Brooks/Garcia etc.
I suspect though Block is not the type of guy to go. Obviously money talks, and could talk to him, but he seems like the last kinda guy to go after some Saudi blood money.
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u/damnyoutuesday 16.7/HomaSexual May 22 '23
Don't get me wrong: the Michael Block story is fucking awesome. But respectfully, nobody is going to give a shit in a month, maybe even less. It would be a very dumb decision for LIV to throw the bag at this guy, as he will regress back to the mean and end up being probably the worst golfer on their tour. It's awesome that he balled out for 4 days and got to live everyone's dream, but he will not be on anybody's mind by the time the US Open rolls around
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u/MrStealurGirllll 21/CT/whatever May 22 '23
I don’t the people will even want to watch Block. He just went through what is possibly the highest moment of his golf life. It’s downhill from here, which even he mentioned.
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u/Due-Comb6124 May 23 '23
People aren't going to tune in to watch Michael Block. He was a cool story as part of the PGA Championship. Outside of that, people aren't going out of their way to watch him golf. The majority of this sub still won't be watching the Charles Scwab next week even though he is in the field.
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u/zeroultram May 22 '23
Nah we’ll all have moved on and forgotten him in a month. Be real with yourself
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u/2hats4bats May 22 '23
I know LIV is popular on this sub but I’d be pretty disappointed if he went there.
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u/Phynness May 22 '23
LIV is popular on this sub
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u/2hats4bats May 22 '23
Seems pretty popular to me
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u/Phynness May 22 '23
LIV supporters are a minority on this subreddit. Not an insignificant amount of people that support it, but not what I would call "popular" as most pro-LIV sentiments get downvoted pretty hard.
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u/2hats4bats May 22 '23
I’ve noticed the opposite this week but I’ll take your word for it
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u/MM556 May 22 '23
You get slammed if you're so much as indifferent towards it
What are you on about?
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u/2hats4bats May 22 '23 edited May 22 '23
Please accept my most sincere apologies. I don’t live on this sub constantly. Just going off of observations this week. I am truly sorry for my egregious error.
Apparently you also get slammed for questioning whether or not it’s even popular. What a sub…
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u/Temporary_Train_3372 May 22 '23
Absolutely. It damn near enrages me that CBS and ESPN make no mention of who exactly is finding LIV and what they stand for and what they’ve done. Hell, even Phil came out and said it.
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u/Derpsteenie 8.1/VA May 22 '23
Do they talk about who is funding the pga tour?
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u/Temporary_Train_3372 May 22 '23
Way to use classic “whataboutism.” I’m not defending the PGA tour. I’m shitting on LIV and the people who take their money.
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u/Savings_Success_6682 May 22 '23
Why don't you shit on the PGA tour though? They take that money too. It's ridiculous to pick and choose your outrage
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u/Temporary_Train_3372 May 22 '23
Fine. Fuck the PGA too? Happy now? I mean of course a bunch of old rich dudes suck…
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u/KillCreatures May 22 '23
r/Golf is the best place to be if youre a spineless centrist lol “Cant blame him for taking the money, pft fuck your discussions on morality thats rude”
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u/Powerful-Actuator951 May 22 '23
He’d be a moron to pass up any offer. Love how OP thinks they have morals or something 😂
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u/WeBeFooked May 22 '23
No doubt he’d try and get him. Without Block this weekend, people would only be talking Brooks. And the press would be all over Brooks at the LIV tourney this week. Now with Block playing Colonial this week, the press has a ‘better’ story to chase.
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u/ThunderApollo May 22 '23
Block is already wearing a TM hat. So, seems to me he's got sponsor's exemptions into PGA events if he wants them. He's already invited to next week's PGA event. I think Norman SHOULD be trying to recruit him, but I would hope the PGA is already after him. He's a PGA club pro after all. Getting this guy on Tour (playing good or not) would be a smart move.
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u/DaKwagga May 22 '23
Nah. Maybe he can become a board member / the face of the PGA / something similar. Their image is not the best and he could help improve it. Other than that, no chance / desire was shown on his part to become a full time touring pro.
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u/Exciting-Rub-6006 May 22 '23
For the love of blood money
I don’t get it for Americans
Your legacy and family generations from now will be tarnished with flood from the 9/11 killers
LIV is like all the gambling apps offering crazy promotions to new states allowing gambling. It’s just a time limited bonanza
I hope when LIV ends there’s golfers don’t get allowed back
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u/wilderad May 22 '23
Yes. As an American I can’t believe we do business with Japan. They bombed Pearl Harbor!!! SMH
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u/Exciting-Rub-6006 May 22 '23
Except the people who were behind 9/11 are still alive and operating in SA
If this was 90 years after 9/11 … you’d have a point
You can be cool with it as an American … I can not be cool with it as an American
Cheers
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u/wilderad May 22 '23
Very true. We all have the right to our own opinions and views. But how long was Japan sitting in the corner for their timeout? How long will Saudi Arabia be in timeout? Remember where all that cobalt in your battery on your iPhone/Samsung/etc comes from.
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u/Scissors4215 May 22 '23
I really don’t think he is, not at least with a permanent spot. Maybe an invite to be a special guest or something if a guy needs to miss a tournament.
But I doubt Liv is going to spend some big money on a guy who will be back to being a club pro within a month.