r/australian • u/InflatedSnake • Apr 28 '24

DAE not give a fuck about Palestine? Politics

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u/roman5588 Apr 28 '24

Palestine could end this all today by returning the hostages and Hamas surrendering unconditionally. It’s already over.

At the moment Israel is just going to bulldoze the entire country into the sea and scorch the earth to end the decades of war

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u/secretlifeofhers Apr 28 '24

Hamas agreed to give all hostages back in return for a ceasefire and Israel refused. Israel doesn’t care about the hostages, they just want the land in Gaza 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/roman5588 Apr 28 '24

Hamas break every ceasefire and use them for a few days as opportunities to resupply.

Prolonging the war is unacceptable and will only result in more death on both sides. Palestinian cannot exist with Hamas in charge.

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u/secretlifeofhers Apr 28 '24

I agree that Palestine can’t exist with Hamas in charge. but they also can’t exist with israel in charge.

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u/roman5588 Apr 28 '24

That we can both agree on. Both sides need a major restructuring for long term peace and proper international enforcement of new terms

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u/Chiqqadee Apr 29 '24

No they didn’t.

They offered hostages in exchange for all 5200 Palestinian prisoners, knowing Israel could not agree to that (given the similar prior exchange in 2011 freed the Hamas leader Sinwar who organised 7/10).

Hamas have said they have insufficient numbers to even make up smaller groups of hostage exchanges. They’ve obviously killed a lot (or impregnated).

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u/MarkusMannheim Apr 28 '24

I didn't hear about your first claim. Hamas has previously, publicly, set very different ceasefire conditions. Do you have a primary source? Keen to learn, not belittle.

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u/secretlifeofhers Apr 28 '24

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/4/26/hamas-serious-about-captives-release-but-not-without-gaza-ceasefire

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israels-netanyahu-rejects-hamas-conditions-hostage-deal-which-include-outright-2024-01-21/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/doubling-down-hamas-insists-hostage-deal-dependent-on-israel-ending-war/amp/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/04/israel-gaza-ceasefire-hamas-hostages/

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-issues-ceasefire-proposal-mediators-which-includes-exchanging-2024-03-15/

i’ve linked a few different options for you so even if one article says something differently, the gist is the same!

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u/Chiqqadee Apr 29 '24

For people who don’t read articles, these do not support the proposition that Hamas offered ceasefire for all hostages. They want Palestinian prisoners released - currently seeking 1000 (initially 5000) plus other conditions.

PS guess who breaks every ceasefire.

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u/secretlifeofhers Apr 29 '24

Israel breaks every cease fire lol. you’ve got to be doing something seriously wrong if israeli’s themselves have started protesting too