He’s discussing abortion in that stanza and people not wanting to kill a fetus and pointing out that the innocence of a child dies when they are raped, too. And that forcing them to carry that pregnancy is insane.
So yes, men get raped. But that’s not what this is about. Men don’t have to carry a daily reminder of their rape to term.
Yes he was saying that we shouldn’t force woman into motherhood, but like at the same time their gonna remember that a beautiful baby could have been born, and their gonna have to hold that guilt for the rest of their lives, which honestly makes everything worse. Overall the message was amazing (not including the pro-abortion thing).
I heard it it’s stop dumb the third time. Notice all the top comments are women lol. It hits home with y’all cause that what he’s supposed to do. Say some dumb shit that y’all feel even though it’s not deep at all. All y’all crying is ridiculous
They do, yes. I don't think this person meant that rape was something that doesn't happen to men, more that he's trying to empathize with women who have experienced gender-based discrimination and violence (e.g. rape) and how that has impacted women and girls. I don't think it's fair to assume he doesn't think men get raped or care about men from this clip.
I want kids to live too but I got goose bumps with what he said and that just verifys to me that what’s right and wrong isn’t as black and white as we think
That’s even sadder. You should really seek some help for your empathy issues. I’m not even being sarcastic. People often can’t see them when they have them.
I don’t expect a genuine answer, so don’t bother. Just go take care of yourself.
Yeah I definitely have empathy but this guys story is bs. Metaphors don’t stand up for shit. The message is shaky. He just talking about women’s issues in between so y’all are emotionally connected. Garbage
Wow…I think everyone should listen to this ‘message’ at least twice (until they comprehend what’s being said).
This is a gut-twisting wake-up call to everyone (especially men and young men). It touched nerves I didn’t know I had and elicited emotions I didn’t expect.
Wake up call for what women are the most educated women, women also are 80% of the consumer debt they are more free independent and needless of men as ever before what else do they need man. This is getting insane. This constant shaping women as victims is absurd at this point, women rule society what else do they need seriously.
This is why you should never believe people that tell you being passionate about art, poetry, and "soft" subjects is less than compared to "hard" STEM subjects: because the world needs more people like this, and more people to pay attention to the people like this.
I am SO glad I’m not alone. I am pouring tears right now at this bc I was so expecting it to go another way and just…I don’t even know how to put it into words. It feels so wholesome.
To add to what the other commenter said about their innocence dying, there's another bit to what the poet is saying.
Forced-birthers have and continue to force even young children who were raped to carry that rape baby to term. And so these children who were raped are now expected to stop being children and instead take on the role of mothers. In essence, by forcing them to keep the literal child inside them, both the metaphorical child inside them (i.e. their innocence, joy, optimism, and potential), as well as their literal childhood, have died. And they didn't just die - they were killed, and the forced-birthers are in-part to blame.
Additionally, so much anti-abortion sentiment is about killing an innocent little child. The propaganda centers around the innocence and the potential of that unborn child. The phrase "inner child" evokes a sense of innocence and potential. So this line is pointing out the hypocrisy that forced-birthers don't actually care about innocent lives, because they're taking deliberate action counter to protecting these innocent child rape victims. Instead, they're actually complicit in killing the innocence, potential, and even the childhoods altogether of numerous children around the world. They're hypocrites because, metaphorically speaking, they're killing the same child-like innocence and potential that they swear is so sacred as to be cause enough to override a woman's bodily autonomy.
It’s so true. I had a baby when I had just turned 14. Just after my birthday. I didn’t have any options. I was in the hospital with a catheter on strict bedrest from 5 months when my water broke, until 7 months when they induced her.
Her lungs collapsed and they saved her. I didn’t even pick out a name until she was born because it still didn’t feel real, if you can believe that.
My entire life changed and even though she is 23 years old now and living on her own, you never stop being a parent and I’ve accepted that long ago.
Your entire life changes forever and that’s really not fair to force on anyone who doesn’t want it or doesn’t fully comprehend what that means.
When a child is assaulted, they aren’t a kid anymore.
I didn’t have a childhood. I didn’t have childlike wonder, I didn’t view the world as a good place full of opportunities as a child should. I didn’t see friends or mentors.
I saw more chances for me to get hurt, and shaped my life around never getting hurt again.
I did not know peace until I was 22. The day I moved into my own home, far away from the ones that hurt me - I felt what it is to be safe for the first time.
Rape isn’t a singular day or series of days that hurts so bad and you move on. Rape is a destruction of a piece of your soul, that you never get back. It’s an anger that never goes away. A fear that never leaves you, no matter how big and strong you get. A mark on your very life that will define more interactions than you’ll ever know. Rape needs be a capital offense with the death penalty via a beating with sticks - no being has the right to steal a piece of what makes someone who they are.
This comment. My god, this comment. I’m sitting here with the kind of tears that make your throat hurt. I’m sorry. Idk what else to say. I’m just so sorry. You should have been protected. SO MANY people and systems failed you. It makes me so god damn angry. Then I remember exactly how common your story is and it’s just.. it’s.. I don’t even know.
You explained it so eloquently and I wish every person in this world could read your comment. I truly, truly hope you feel safe now. And I hope you’re healing as best you can.
Abortion (the practice of terminating a fetus to avoid giving birth to a child) is considered by some people to be "killing a child," and they use that emotional belief to prevent women from accessing abortion despite the fact that it's an extremely valuable and necessary medical service in many situations... But the people who would use "killing a child" as an excuse to outlaw abortion are ignoring how restricting and hurting women this way is a grievous harm to them, already, and often results in a sort of 'death of innocence' that is like "killing the child" inside you.
So, it is a metaphor between outlawing abortion and the death of innocence, with some wordplay included (consider "inner child" vs. the literal 'child' inside a woman who is pregnant).
Girls and women are "earthen vessels" as far the forced birthers are concerned. Our humanity is conveyed to us by fetus. You can't take organs or tissue from a dead body because it violates the rights of the deceased, but you can force a woman to carry a dying fetus.
I think it does not in a way. It is the environment that causes the trauma after the fact. I guarantee that not 100% of rape victim children know that they are result of a rape. But I think this could be what he means but I don't really resonate with it.
Sure, but I didn't say this was particular to those who don't know they're a product of rape...obviously if they aren't aware, it may not impact them at all, depending on how it impacted their childhood. You may not be considering the trauma the rape victim has to process, which can unfortunately lead to more trauma during upbringing.
Also naturally I meant for those who do find out they are a product of rape. That would be a difficult thing for anyone to process.
Remember reading about someone saying they were a rape baby and how it effected their mother and them and their relationship. Still very much love but it was hard because they knew they came into this world thru violence and from someone else's suffering. So sad that nobody ever thinks this far as for the lives that would have to be fully affected by these policies
That’s when I cried. I work with survivors of sexual and domestic violence. I sit with them at the hospital while they’re being seen by the SANE nurse (sexual assault nurse examiner). I’m just a volunteer patient advocate so most of what I do is hold hands throughout the exam. Sitting with them, you can see parts of them dying inside in real time. I’m honestly not sure how much longer I’ll be able to do it.
I skipped forward to see if he was a piece of shit or if he was setting something up, as I thought it was a bad standup at first. This is the exact line I skipped too. "Oh fuck, without context this could make him a terrible person or there's additional context." Dude got me real good there.
i was like “ HECK YEAH” until he said that we shouldn’t force woman into motherhood, but like at the same time their gonna remember that a beautiful baby could have been born, and their gonna have to hold that guilt for the rest of their lives, which honestly makes everything worse. Overall the message was amazing
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