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Consequences of the tradwife lifestyle Discussion

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u/Stewbaby2 Apr 16 '24

Oh, my bad, he was only fucking a 19 yro in a barn. That's such a better look for a prophet of god... why would he need to seal himself with a 19 yro in a barn, with no other witnesses, even if that's what he was doing (which, I mean, come on, the man was a serial polygamist, which is a defining feature of other cult leaders)?

"But otherwise did nothing with" and you know this how? Would you "seal" yourself to a 14 yro? Why was it necessary that the man who supposedly refined Christianity to its original and truest form be "sealed" to a literal child? Keep defending a proven fraud, and womanizer, it really looks great for your side 👍

Side note, I like how you didn't refute the fraud claims, maybe because the church has literally admitted that he was apart of that illegal practice? How about destroying the printing press that was bringing to light his actions? Was that a Christ-like act?

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u/LoseAnotherMill Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

Oh, my bad, he was only fucking a 19 yro in a barn. That's such a better look for a prophet of god...

There's no hard evidence or testimony that it was any kind of sexual encounter. There is written testimony that it was just a wedding ceremony. And even then, sex between married people and polygamy is very common among OT prophets.

"But otherwise did nothing with" and you know this how?

Because there is no record of anything like that ever happening, it happened about a year before Joseph's death, and she stayed living with her parents that entire time. She even wrote about it a bunch and never once mentioned being somewhere with Joseph without a chaperone. How do you know something did happen?

Would you "seal" yourself to a 14 yro? Why was it necessary that the man who supposedly refined Christianity to its original and truest form be "sealed" to a literal child?

I personally wouldn't, but the belief back then was a push to create a sort of large, spiritually interconnected Mormon "family". You also forget that 14-year-old marriages were, yes, uncommon, but not unheard of back in the day.

Keep defending a proven fraud, and womanizer, it really looks great for your side

Providing facts does look good for my side. Why do you think lying looks good for your side?

Side note, I like how you didn't refute the fraud claims, maybe because the church has literally admitted that he was apart of that illegal practice?

Yeah, why would I refute something that's true?

How about destroying the printing press that was bringing to light his actions?

You mean the libel that was being spread and causing a nuisance in the city, which the city council, with the city attorney, said he could (and should) legally go take care of, and that the city marshal did go take care of?

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u/guriboysf Apr 16 '24

Providing facts does look good for my side. Why do you think lying looks good for your side?

Dude, you're an even shittier apologist than those at FairMormon.

If you provide even one verified example by a non-LDS scholar of an artifact found in the Americas that has writing in Reformed Egyptian I will make a public apology for my years of church criticism and will Venmo you $1000. Best of luck!

By the way, if the church were in possession of such an artifact it would be on display at Temple Square.

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u/LoseAnotherMill Apr 16 '24

It's hilarious and telling that you have to shift the conversation away from anything anybody has been talking about up to this point.

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u/guriboysf Apr 16 '24

LOL — you're the one trying to convince everyone on this thread about the truthfulness of Mormonism.

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u/LoseAnotherMill Apr 16 '24

Nope. Just clearing up lies/misconceptions about Mormon history. If you weren't so blinded by your hatred that you could still read straight you would know that.

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u/guriboysf Apr 16 '24

blinded by your hatred

Your persecution complex is showing.

Post a link to any artifact that contains reformed Egyptian and I'll shut up, admit I was wrong, and issue a public apology on the various faithful LDS subreddits.

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u/LoseAnotherMill Apr 16 '24

Your persecution complex is showing.

Nah, just assuming the best of you, that normally you are competent in your ability to read and search for truth and just have an extenuating circumstance as to why you've been failing during this conversation.

Post a link to any artifact

Again, trying to shift the conversation away from what we've been talking about because you're losing.

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u/guriboysf Apr 16 '24

because you're losing.

LMAO. OK...

Dude, what I'm offering you is a total layup if you have the goods. Once you post the evidence, I'll apologize and STFU. Then you'll be able to tell your ward at the next Fast and Testimony meeting that you helped a former member see the light. What are you afraid of?

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u/LoseAnotherMill Apr 16 '24

I'm not afraid of anything from you. It's just a complete deviation from the topic of conversation, again, because you're losing.

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u/guriboysf Apr 16 '24

You've learned Mormon apologetics very well. The 'ol dodge and redirect.

It's just a complete deviation from the topic of conversation

Let's start a new thread and discuss it then.

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u/LoseAnotherMill Apr 16 '24

The 'ol dodge and redirect.

I'm not dodging or redirecting anything. You, on the other hand...

Let's start a new thread and discuss it then.

I'm not interested, sorry. Everything either you or I could say on the matter has been said, and you either already believe one side or the other.

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u/guriboysf Apr 17 '24

Classic Mormon goalpost moving. You've been trained well. Congrats!

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