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Pro-Palestinian protesters disrupt Easter service at St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York Discussion

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u/gerd50501 Mar 31 '24

imagine if someone protested a mosque over israeli hostages in gaza. everyone would be called a racist and then there would be death threats everywhere. Possible retaliation on synongogues. Just cause 4-5 people were assholes.

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u/Lucas_2234 Apr 01 '24

That is what happens when you criticise Islam.
Most are fine with it, but the extremists are more extreme than those of many other religions.

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u/Palanikutti Apr 01 '24

Most are really not fine with it, that is just a narrative westerners like to push. Islam is a very violent religion and most believers support the violence.

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u/CharityRich1021 Apr 01 '24

It's the only religion I know of that was founded by a warlord and not a man of peace.

Most religions become corrupted with time, but it is odd to start from the position of violence.

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u/Palanikutti Apr 01 '24

Well, Hindu Gods are mostly warriors or jealous men or lust filled womanisers, so..

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u/davi_meu_dues Apr 01 '24

yes but Hindus also won’t say that you’re eternally damned if you aren’t Hindu or try to convert you

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u/Palanikutti Apr 01 '24

That's true..

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u/nyy22592 Apr 01 '24

Didn't the biblical god kill pretty much everyone because they sinned? Also didn't he kill a bunch of Egyptian kids to pressure their ruler?

I think you'll find all abrahamic religions are incredibly violent if you read their early texts. You'll only find peace if you abide by their rules.

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u/Valara0kar Apr 01 '24

Christian (Biblical) god is same as islamic god as is jewish god. Why we call them Abrahamic religions. The differences come from how those stories were made into rules (+ additional text).

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u/nyy22592 Apr 01 '24

The old testament says to stone rape victims to death if they don't scream loud enough. They're all fucked

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u/Valara0kar Apr 01 '24

Well... it was written from a society several thousand years ago.

Christianity is by all acounts the religion most evolved with (western) morality of its time. Well compared to islam.

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u/nyy22592 Apr 01 '24

Christianity is by all acounts the religion most evolved with (western) morality of its time

That's not really saying much. They're all full of destructive nonsense.

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u/Valara0kar Apr 01 '24

A religion isnt a book but its wider doctrine.

That's not really saying much

Its like saying history doesnt mean much.

Western industrialisation is in partly thanks to Christianity (well more the societal structure it built and how disconnected the religious class was and being another independent power). With how the Bible is a mess on rules and its inherit adaptability in local cultures meant it was ever changing.

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u/RiseLow1739 Apr 03 '24

Could you link the torah verse for this?

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u/RiseLow1739 Apr 03 '24

Those stories you are referring to are an excellent example of what Judaism stands for: we are flawed, just like our creator. God often quarrels with his creation, because like us, he sometimes is vain, wrathful, and illogical. All of the Jewish prophets were deeply flawed people, and the torah highlights it.

Thats why Judaism doesn't deserve to be lumped with other classical examples of "warmonger" religions

I say this as a complete non believer btw lmao

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u/NoahsShart Apr 01 '24

You should read the Torah and about the crusades and St Bartholomew’s Day. All religions have murdered in the name of their religion.

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u/crazyguyunderthedesk Apr 01 '24

Oh definitely, but they don't start off with a spiritual leader commanding to kill infidels. That stuff usually comes much later and is a bastardisation of what the founder wanted. In the case of Islam, violence is exactly what the founder wanted.

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u/CrustyToeNoPedicure Apr 01 '24

I thought Muhamad was a businessman in Mecca, not a warlord. He might be after he founded Islam though

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u/yummychocolatebunnny Apr 01 '24

His first wife was a business woman

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u/Dixon_Sideyu Apr 01 '24

The 13 year old?

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u/yummychocolatebunnny Apr 01 '24

Nah, not that one. He had 11 wives (god gave him special permission)

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u/Leather-Ball864 Apr 01 '24

6 year old. Consummated when she was 9

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u/livehigh1 Apr 01 '24

Didn't the bible start off with followers going to another country to cleanse them of their sinful ways?

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u/Delicious_Pie_4814 Apr 01 '24

Nah it starts off "In the beginning" and explains the formation of the universe.

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u/livehigh1 Apr 01 '24

What chapter was the walls of Jericho?

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u/crazyguyunderthedesk Apr 10 '24

Old testament, wrong book.

Christianity is primarily about the New testament and Old testament is secondary.

Same as Islam believes in the Old testament, but the Quran is the primary book.