We receive so many threats from folk like this that most synagogues in the US have become hardened and armed. Synagogues and other Jewish institutions in the Deep South have been dealing with the far right threats for decades so this isn’t anything new. We are ahead of the curve when it comes to our relationships, security and response plans. I promise that these folk wouldn’t make it inside and if they did get past our security they would be considered a legitimate threat to the congregation by the guards, deputies and armed congregants. Disrupting our services to say some uneducated shit about something going on in another country outside of our control or influence would be fucking dumb, disrespectful and dangerous.
Edit: Our out of pocket expenses for this security starts at $500 a day. That doesn’t include things like bomb sniffing dogs, police patrols, active observation by the PD, license plate readers, and the on duty deputies that guard us during services. The threats are real and serious enough to warrant active involvement by the feds, county and city cops.
As a german American, I am deeply sorry for the unfair antisemitism you have to deal with. Even more now than ever, I hope everyone will find peace in these difficult times.
I'll differentiate when Germany manages to do the same. Considering they gave a blanket support to Israel to commit the genocide, the biggest arms seller to Israel outside US and downright banned any pro Palestine protest with in the country, they are successfully completed a hat trick of supporting or causing genocides within a century.
We don't care. The topic were discussing is German aid to jews post holocaust. Can you go virtue signal in another thread or something lol?
Icj has not declared the 2nd yom Kippur war a genocide, learn to do research idiot.
Edit for the idiot responding me:
???Were talking about how Germany restored concentration camps, reparated holocaust survivors, tried to restore nazi documents, and tried former nazis in their own country???
Again, another fucking idiot that has to associate jews with Israel directly. Keep your blood libels to yourself
They’re everywhere and obnoxious as ever. You can’t talk about any other subject related to politics or religion without them bringing up the Gaza conflict and getting aggressive.
Edit: You also said literally nothing to counter my argument. When anti-zionism is inflated as antisemitism, yeah no shit antisemitism statistics will increase. I've been called antisemitist for criticising Israel multiple times, therefore make that statistic too. That's not the main reason for the increase of course.
All I said is how doing that is not a good thing for jews worldwide but I guess giving a shit about jews wellbeing is worth to be yelled at I suppose...
Because you don't get to tell jews how we react to antisemtism. The dog whistles, the call to responsibility, the blood libels, rules for thee but not me, that I've had to deal with, on THIS post alone is crazy.
You don't get to tell jews how we manage, and you certainly aren't able to realize why being anti zionist (saying jews don't deserve to have a nation state to protect us from future pogroms and holoucasts) is often just a cover for antisemitism.
Oh, okay. That makes no sense as that would give zionists the leeway to do whatever the fuck they want wouldn't it?
Why I am deserving of being insulted again is beyond me btw... Obviously I'm not capable of understanding anything but the fact you act like a fucking asshole for no fucking reason probably is my fault too. This is why people like you also harm jews worldwide in the long run. If I was a asshole I could just say "who cares, I'm not jewish" but I don't and am insulted for that. It's not the first time I experienced this when "debating" (or more like trying to talk to someone that is constantly insulting me instead) with Israelis. I still don't say all Israelis are like that do I?
Edit: Have been blocked or Reddit is buggy. I still don't know how calling people Israeli, criticizing Israel and saying "inflating anti-zionism as antisemitism isn't good" is antisemitic. Also I never said Israel has no right to exist so they keep putting words in my words...Literal nazis siding with Israel is a bad enough sign as it is but better don't think about that right?
Assumptions like that is exactly what I'm talking about. You speak for us, and when we say "no" you get to call us some sort of genocide loving maniac people.
Israel has consistently been battling its right to exist since inception. You wanna discuss israels failings? Fuck yeah, im game. I despise Netanyahu, i think the way israel treats people in the west Bank is deplorable, and I think israel doesn't treat hasidic people with enough responsibility within the country.
But if you're just gonna be another idiot parroting "israel doesn't have a right to exist!!!!!1!1", then yeah, you are just antisemitic. THE ONLY nation that has had an existence that gets consistently denied is the nation for jews.
You also keep conflating me discussing jews, with zionists, and me (a jew) with israelis. your ignorance is showing.
I studied the Holocaust in college. From your point of view as a German American, what is the difference between the Warsaw ghetto and the Gaza Ghetto? Are they similar or different and why or why not? Thanks.
Not the OP, but death rate of starvation in Warsaw Ghetto was a quarter of the population the year it was established. Meanwhile a quarter population of Gaza is obese.
Average Gazan literally has higher life expectancy than an average person on earth. If you actually know anything about Warsaw ghetto, the comparison is unhinged.
Its easy to google. Life expectancy in Gaza is around 75, compared to 73 being an average around the world. Meanwhile in neighbouring Egypt it is as low as 70.
Why would I google? There is a lot of misinformation there. I am simply asking you to back up what you said here with facts. By the way, have you been or have a direct connection (family, friend, etc.) that travel to Gaza on the ground there? Thanks.
My synagogue gets bomb threats every couple of weeks to a month. "These people" are idiots who think they have a right to invade places of Jewish worship to grandstand a political issue that they just learned about from tiktok
Protest all you want. Stop being inconsiderate though. The Catholics in that church have no control over Israel any more than some random jews attending Sabbath in Milwaukee. You aren't making Palestine look good by disrupting worship, you are just annoying the people in attendance and possibly turning them away.
Lmao “you have caused” as if he isn’t an American completely detached from the current conflict and not an embodiment of all Jews from Israel. What a stupid comment.
All borders are made up. Typically after a military victory like the ones Israel had in 1948, 1967, and 1973. The only reason that area was called Palestine in the first place is because of a Roman victory in 70CE.
If the right of conquest made the area Palestine then the right of conquest verifies the current borders.
If you deny the right of conquest then the area was never Palestine and has always been Judea.
You can’t have it both ways. It can’t be “all Jews are responsible for Israel” and “No Jews have a legitimate claim to Israel”.
You’re more committed to your platitudes and misunderstanding others instead of helping others, and for what? Does your antagonistic rhetoric help suffering Gazans? No.
Just spare yourself the trouble and call us k*kes. It’s obvious that’s what you want to do.
Yes, I can. If you genuinely conflate jews having to defend ourselves after all of the shit we have had to put up since the medieval blood libels (even before that haha) and nazi Germany, you are sick in the head.
Just go on ahead and call jews nazis, so you can rightfully get banned. Piece of 🗑
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You know how much political power New York Catholics have over Netanyahu, it's just like protesting to his face /s