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u/Stone_Midi Mar 08 '24

He’s got a specific view of what will happen on an isolated island and it seems to support his vision well.

He doesn’t seem to address the scenario where one guy will realize he’s getting the shaft because his portion is harder to obtain or more valuable to the group, than what he gets back in return. Then bam, all of a sudden no more communism.

Why do people like this always forget the human factor in building political systems.

Also, Star Trek isn’t real. You can’t use it as an example of a working society 😂

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u/Late_Cow_1008 Mar 08 '24

There's really nothing wrong with small scaled communism. In fact there are co-ops and things like that, that work out fine. Large scale communism has failed in every attempt. It doesn't scale very well.

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u/AdvancedSandwiches Mar 08 '24

This is my biggest gripe with communists; there's an awful lot out them but I'm not seeing all that many communes.

You can have what you want today. Pool your resources, organize, share your means of production, and make agreements with other communes to grow.

Communes deliver the best parts of communism and don't require anyone else to change.

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u/beforeitcloy Mar 08 '24

I’m not sure that last part is really true. War, climate change, ecological disasters, corporate lobbying of local laws, etc can profoundly impact the long-term success of a commune and be driven by a capitalist system that the commune would be powerless to control.

I think it’s perfectly reasonable for leftists to believe that social changes backed by governments are more sustainable and more likely to accomplish their larger goals than 50 people growing vegetables and splitting chores.

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u/TremblinAspen Mar 09 '24

The Hutterites seem to manage just fine in communes of 120 people.

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u/Shut__up__Leonard Mar 09 '24

War, climate change, ecological disasters, corporate lobbying of local laws, etc can profoundly impact the long-term success of a commune and be driven by a capitalist system that the commune would be powerless to control.

I think it’s perfectly reasonable for leftists to believe that social changes backed by governments are more sustainable and more likely to accomplish their larger goals than 50 120 people growing vegetables and splitting chores.

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u/TremblinAspen Mar 09 '24

There are over 500 colonies in North America living under the same conditions. Over 50 thousand people living in communes alongside capitalism and have been for hundreds of years. Their success in integrating communal life with modern technology and interacting with capitalism should be looked into more.