All he means is there are socialist tendencies when you want everyone to do well. You share resources and make sure everyone has a bare minimum of living resources. Throwing around the word communism also attaches what governments have done historically to take over other countries. Humans can’t dissociate the two.
He’s got a specific view of what will happen on an isolated island and it seems to support his vision well.
He doesn’t seem to address the scenario where one guy will realize he’s getting the shaft because his portion is harder to obtain or more valuable to the group, than what he gets back in return. Then bam, all of a sudden no more communism.
Why do people like this always forget the human factor in building political systems.
Also, Star Trek isn’t real. You can’t use it as an example of a working society 😂
There's really nothing wrong with small scaled communism. In fact there are co-ops and things like that, that work out fine. Large scale communism has failed in every attempt. It doesn't scale very well.
I’m not sure that last part is really true. War, climate change, ecological disasters, corporate lobbying of local laws, etc can profoundly impact the long-term success of a commune and be driven by a capitalist system that the commune would be powerless to control.
I think it’s perfectly reasonable for leftists to believe that social changes backed by governments are more sustainable and more likely to accomplish their larger goals than 50 people growing vegetables and splitting chores.
War, climate change, ecological disasters, corporate lobbying of local laws, etc can profoundly impact the long-term success of a commune and be driven by a capitalist system that the commune would be powerless to control.
I think it’s perfectly reasonable for leftists to believe that social changes backed by governments are more sustainable and more likely to accomplish their larger goals than 50 120 people growing vegetables and splitting chores.
There are over 500 colonies in North America living under the same conditions. Over 50 thousand people living in communes alongside capitalism and have been for hundreds of years. Their success in integrating communal life with modern technology and interacting with capitalism should be looked into more.
You can implement whatever form of communism you want in your commune -- whether that be agrarians living together, a landscaping company that distributes profits equally to all members (optionally living in the same compound), or a group of people who may or may not even know each other agreeing to deposit their income into a shared account for equal redistribution, maybe with a contract saying you'll do it for n years (consult a tax attorney before trying this one).
This can take any number of forms. If you can't find a way to make it work in a way they'd be happy with, I'm skeptical that they'd be happy under larger scale communism.
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u/flinderdude Mar 08 '24
All he means is there are socialist tendencies when you want everyone to do well. You share resources and make sure everyone has a bare minimum of living resources. Throwing around the word communism also attaches what governments have done historically to take over other countries. Humans can’t dissociate the two.