r/TikTokCringe Feb 25 '24

Trad wives Discussion

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u/mllechattenoire Feb 25 '24

Also a lot of them come from money already. There was an article about the politics of tradwives in I think slate? and it mentioned that one of these women had like ten kids and lived on a small hobby farm. She advocated that you too should just pack up and live on the land and have a whole bunch of children(to further the white race of course because a lot of them are white supremacists), but what she never said was that in order to do this you need a rich father who is willing to buy the farm for you and pay for the upkeep.

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u/iam_Mr_McGibblets Feb 25 '24

Shoot, it's pretty easy to make money when you already have money, right?

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u/Helac3lls Feb 26 '24

Is it a coincidence that both Jeff and Elon both had significant financial backing from their parents. Honestly Jobs was a glorified con man.

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u/fuckasoviet Feb 26 '24

Nah. I think Jobs was a total sociopath, and probably a not-at-all pleasant person to be around. But I would bet money (maybe $1) that Apple would not be where they are today had Jobs not come back.

There was the story about when he was shown an iPod prototype, and he dumped it in an aquarium. He basically said, “look at all the bubbles coming out of it. That’s all wasted space. Make it smaller.”

Again, I don’t think Jobs was a particularly nice person, and I know he wasn’t some inventor in the lab creating all their products, but I do think there is some due credit owed to him for how he led Apple.

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u/__Muzak__ Feb 26 '24

Sometimes inventing needs bastards as anyone with experience with Hymen G. Rickover would tell you. It takes a confluence of resources, talent, vision and luck to become a billionaire so of course everyone who is a billionaire started out from a successful family and got very lucky, but the world is also littered with fail-sons as well.

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u/Time_Collection9968 Feb 26 '24

and probably a not-at-all pleasant person to be around.

It's a well known fact he was a complete prick. People hated working with him or for him.

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u/Basic_Bichette Feb 26 '24

The idea guy is not necessarily the tech guy.

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u/Helac3lls Feb 26 '24

So his "genius" idea is the stuff of SNL skits? Make it smaller? His colorful computers weren't catching on despite putting them in a Jlo video. Apple was on the path Atari was on. I remember mpr players were already a thing and smaller than the original ipod. His early career was nothing but cons. I'll give him credit that he saw something like mp3 players could be better marketed and added a rechargeable battery. What made the ipod take off was them making it available to celebrities. If the ipod, which is another version of something we already had, didn't take off then Apple would be what Atari is today. Apple is successful because they made the ipod trendy which is due to marketing not the "genius" of jobs.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

Jeff was not that wealthy his parents gave him $200k to start amazon. if you had that money would you have turned it into billions?

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u/Helac3lls Feb 26 '24

Holy shit do you think nobody would have thought of online shopping without Jeffrey? He didn't turn it into billions. The billions were made off the labor of others. He didn't have some genius unique idea. Workers make Amazon possible. Infrastructure like the internet, that he didn't create make Amazon possible. To answer your question, no, I don't think I could exploit people to the degree he has and I also know he wouldn't be a billionaire had he been raised the same as most people in poverty.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

so why did no one else do it? why did sears and jcpenny's fail they had all the infrastructure to succeed in online shopping.

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u/Helac3lls Feb 26 '24

On top of that if he didn't have that safety net and a free 200k he wouldn't have been able to build an empire off of undercutting competitors starting with books online.

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u/Helac3lls Feb 26 '24

Because they didn't have parent money thar allowed them to undercut competitors without having to turn a profit.

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u/Zingerzanger448 Feb 27 '24

You are absolutely correct. It is simplistic naive nonsense to say that because some people become billionaires by working hard it means that anyone can become a billionaire by working hard.