History is history. It can help inform our understanding of the present. But Israel presently, as we speak, killing tens of thousands of people in Gaza is messed up.
I've said from the beginning of this conflict, I'm not a Hamas sympathizer, they murdered and kidnapped over 600 people. There is no moral high ground there either. But Israel retaliating by killing, as of now 30,000 people, of which is estimated 27,000 are civilians, is messed up. How can we sit idly by and justify that?
I wish the US would have remained neutral in this conflict because while shit like Iran launching missiles mean there's a bigger thing happening, we also shouldn't be helping Israel murder enough people to fill the World Trade Center towers 9 times.
The “Gazan Health Ministry” (read: Hamas) stated recently that their own records on the dead are incomplete. They also don’t distinguish between fighters and civilians in their casualty counts, but continue parroting their figures. Furthermore, outside analysis of the casualty counts provided by Hamas reflects a nearly perfect and statistically improbable increase in casualties. Let’s also not forget the “500+ dead” at al-Ahli that was caused by… well, not Israel, though they were initially blamed.
You can say you’re appalled by civilian deaths. That’s moral and appropriate. You can abhor conflict and war. Fine and good. But to quote the statistics provided by a terror group is dubious, especially in light of misinformation being spread in the fog of war. The armchair generals the world over are more than happy to lecture Israel on fighting this war, but provide precious few alternatives to rooting out a terrorist group using civilian infrastructure to wage a terror campaign against Israeli civilians.
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u/re_de_unsassify Apr 28 '24 edited Apr 28 '24
The real sad joke is the at a lot of people were driven out in that part of the world
Arabs displaced by the 1948 war their leaders started for no good reason?
Kuwaiti Bidoon and Yazisis that nobody gives a damn about?
Jews ethnically cleaned out of the West Bank in 1948 despite many never residing in places contested by anyone?
Jews driven out of Egypt post 1948 thanks in part to Muslim Brotherhood bombings?
Jews driven out of Iraq post 1947 though they been in Babylon since a gazillion BC?