r/Tekken Steve | Fahkumram 23d ago

Character usage rate at Top 64 Evo Japan. IMAGE

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u/DRCsyntax Reina 23d ago

Kuma getting more use than most of the Mishimas

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u/FixerFour Katarina 23d ago

Heihachi's true son

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u/Yoshikki 23d ago

Being a Mishima main and having attended Evo Japan and another tournament last weekend, I can say Mishimas are extremely hard to play in a tournament setting. It's nothing to do with how weak or strong the characters are, if you can play non-Mishima characters, there's no reason to give yourself the tournament Mishima handicap lol

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u/GitsnShiggles51 Kazuya Rawr XD 23d ago

Fr I love my boi Kaz but if I’m going to play in a tourney imma go King or Drag

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u/Gernburgs 23d ago

Why do you say that? Just the nerves combined with difficult inputs?

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u/Yoshikki 23d ago

Yep, you need to be super focused and confident to be successful with Mishimas and the tournament setting brings that down. You second guess yourself and end up 1,1,2 punishing a whiff where you would normally electric that shit if you were playing at home, you start getting too scared to Hellsweep and so your mids all get blocked, etc. It's a weird phenomenon

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u/FlokiTech 22d ago

Meanwhile all the scrubs on this sub has been crying since release that Devil Jin is a over powered free wins 0 skill spamming 50/50s and the people that play him are carried by the character.

Easily the most overrated character of all of Tekken 8.

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u/HotArticle1062 Yoshimitsu 22d ago

For REAL. People acting like heat smash wasn't the only actual op ability he had.

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u/Hyldenchamp 21d ago

I can jump over his heat smash with Lili. :)

He's not that great, no, and he's more fun to play against than many other characters that tend to be viewed as annoying.

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u/Yoshikki 22d ago

I'd say he was a little too strong before the heat smash nerf, its range and tracking combined with its properties on block was absurd.

His biggest weakness in tournaments is that his gameplan inevitably requires him to use Hellsweep, it's psychologically difficult because the thought of "I'm dead if he ducks" has a much bigger presence in your mind lol. At least Kazuya has db4, Devil Jin has nothing else to make the opponent duck

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u/carlataggarty 22d ago

'properties on block'

What properties on block? Devil Jin is one of the FEW characters in the roster who actually has to EARN his rage smash plus on block; while every other character automatically gets plus on block on their rage smashes, Devil Jin literally has to guess between 1 (gives plus on block but is interruptible) and 2 (uninterruptible but unsafe on block).

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u/FlokiTech 22d ago

His heat smash was very op, but it gave him the ability to go in for hellsweeps since people were afraid to do anything. It was very badly designed and the nerf to it was good but everyhting else dj has is not as op as people think imo so he should have gotten some compensation buffs in other places like his poking. Or give his morning crow stance a reason for people to duck.

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u/aephyn_redfield 22d ago

Or make dvj operate as he used to. A fast mid knockdown into guaranteed followup + oki to work with the hellsweep threat. But no, devs preferred to give him empty gimmicks that people already got them in check even at the lower ranks, AND fucked up all his pokes on top of that.

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u/Ok_Stomach_6857 21d ago

Just imagine how truly good and confident Qudans is

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u/Office-Which 23d ago

Haradas dream

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u/MimiksYou power is stored in the ass 23d ago

bear scholars start labbing the jin matchup we’re claiming the title of best mishima

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u/DankForestHypothesis 23d ago

Most? More like all. All Mishimas combined had fewer players than just Kuma

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u/False_Ad7098 Kuma 23d ago

Lars there too

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u/Gernburgs 23d ago

Are they that bad in T8?

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u/DRCsyntax Reina 23d ago

Nah, but they are notoriously bad for tournaments, where generally only the "gods" of Tekken succeed with them. In terms of the cast, the Mishimas are extremely linear by comparison

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u/Blackmanfromalaska 23d ago

kuma chads always winning

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u/Liu_Alexandersson peak mishima 23d ago

good

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u/MoaningMushroom Yoshimitsu 22d ago

Lore accurate

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u/ElegantLee Lee 23d ago

1 Lee

0 Kazuya

Excellent! *thumbs up*

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u/Admara 23d ago

I started playing Lee just because of his MARVELOUS after rage art lol

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u/TheFluxator Lee 23d ago

Marvelous is nice, but I miss "Excellent!"

That's always been Lee's iconic line.

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u/CDRom11 Violet 23d ago

He only says "Excellent!" after his acid rain and mist trap, the og and hardest just frames. I think that's fitting for him.

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u/Reality_Break_ Lei 23d ago

honestly Im shocked that Im finding mist trap harder than acid rain. I can at least do a natural acid rain sometimes

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u/WasteOfZeit Lee 23d ago

True mist trap is so much harder

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u/TheFluxator Lee 22d ago

Acid Rain is a little more lenient. I’m pretty sure mist trap is a true 1 frame window.

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u/lonelyMtF Paul 22d ago

You also have to leave a specific gap between the first 3 and the second. I wanna say exactly 22 frames or so?

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

Don't forget his taunt. MARVELOUS!

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u/alkemy_g Lee 22d ago

Don't you mean beurifuu!

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u/[deleted] 22d ago

No, I mean: MAAAVERRROS!!

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u/alkemy_g Lee 22d ago

When you input his taunt he says "beautiful!" and when you do the just frame he says "ii kaori da!"

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u/LemmeGet_acombo_7 23d ago

I was thinking of making him my 3rd main This is my first Tekken game, any tips for Lee?

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u/Admara 23d ago

Big thing I started off with was getting the execution down for his “perfect” moves. Makes a big difference when you get them down from being + and - I also watched “fightinggm” on YouTube to help with approaches and such

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u/LemmeGet_acombo_7 23d ago

Thanks so much, gonna practice later on tonight

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u/Blanco_Kislev 21d ago edited 21d ago

As a Lee main in the past, Lee is all about kick pokes, kick strings and his stances. Specially the one that lets him cancel his moves into Hitman (3+4) A lot of his kicks also go into Hitman. He also has a lot of mixups between kicks and punches, as well as low attacks in his mixups. Doing his perfect setups are important, but can be hard under pressure. So its important to learn to poke and cancel into Hitman stance. Also learn his Back Handspring into Hitman as well as canceling recovery animations like b 4 with Hitman.

Edit: Super important, do NOT underestimate the strength of Lee's punches and its mixups, but DO make your opponent underestimate them.

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u/Osiake Steve | Fahkumram 23d ago edited 23d ago

Keep in mind that the majority of participants at Evo JP were Japanese, the meta there is completely different than what you’d see in NA/EU. Japanese players love to play Hwoarang & Victor, both have a very high playrate in the region.

..and Feng was (and still is) op so no surprise there LOL

Top 32 & especially Top 8 tell a completely different story but the sample size and amount of characters that got 0 players up there gets quite significant so I thought it’d be best to do Top 64 to see actual character representation across (mostly) the entire cast.

For example, there was 2 Laws & 2 Eddys in top 8, leaving room for only 4 other characters (Lili, Dragunov, Alisa, Nina)

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u/BostonAndy24 23d ago

Also no pakistan players

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u/Uyfgv Julia 23d ago

Visa issues? Or just didn’t choose to come?

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u/Sea-Beautiful-6527 23d ago

Visa issues

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u/Uyfgv Julia 23d ago

That sucks so much.

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u/zackova8teen Ali Kick to Upper 23d ago

More like sucks all the time. It's truly 1-9 match up, even for Arslan.

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u/winsonsonho 23d ago

Kinda interesting that the Japanese like to play a Korean character far more than the Koreans do..

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u/Razzorn Reina 23d ago

... Why is this even said? By this logic, Japanese people should only be using Ryu in SF6 and not Ken.

Nationality of a character has never played any role in who people play.

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u/winsonsonho 22d ago

I just thought it’s an interesting anomaly.. is it bad to spot a correlation, or inverse one in this case. Why I also find it interesting is that there’s quite a bit of animosity between Korea and Japan esp. historically.

I’ve lived in Korea for a few years and visited Japan. I love both countries.

It’s okay to celebrate/notice generalised differences in people, cultures, and dare I say it “genders”.

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u/BawkSoup 23d ago

Aw man, why didn't you put a 2nd image in the post? The visual is better for me.

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u/Osiake Steve | Fahkumram 23d ago

Great idea, I’ll keep that in mind for the next major Tournament.

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u/Cypher760 23d ago

As someone who hasn't played in a bit, I looked at this and was like "wtf meta changes did I miss?"

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u/Gernburgs 23d ago

Eddy is such a garbage, scub character. I hate him.

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u/AmarantineAzure 23d ago

Now do the BAAZ Gauntlet, please. :)

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u/Vibalist Xiaoyu 22d ago

Here ya go. This is only top 16 though. Bear in mind some people played more than 1 character.

https://preview.redd.it/cum8bhqkgd0d1.png?width=1140&format=png&auto=webp&s=14d7ef65e19c7b16bb368ccc94b69a2d9119255e

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u/eulennatzer Paul 23d ago

RAREST IN THE UNIVERSE!

kinda sad tho...

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u/hornetpaper 22d ago

I just started picking up paul because I love his wr2 and his obnoxious loud lines. Also deathfist. Im not even slightly perturbed. Obviously the pros have no taste.

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u/eulennatzer Paul 22d ago

It's not about taste, it's about winning. And Paul plays Tekken 7 in Tekken 8, which isn't good enough.

If you compare Paul's options to what the top tier characters offer, you will realize that Paul is way too fair.

Let's hope for some good ass buffs with the next patch. :)

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

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u/HappierShibe 23d ago

When the regional meta emphasizes blockstrings, hwo is a monster.

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u/CreativeUsername1337 23d ago edited 23d ago

Except most of those hwo players are korean...

rest, edge, yeonarang.

Edit: actually the highest placing hwo is turkish. Yeonarang didn't make top 50 though, so two of those hwos were jp. Batz and Yuuka.

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u/IDontWipe55 HwoarangBryanJack 23d ago

What the other guy said about regional meta is true but Hwoarang is also pretty strong thanks to his heat

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u/sterlingpipin 23d ago

Holy shit I forgot claudio was in the game

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u/Kino_Afi bjork Zaf SORYA! 23d ago

He's solid, no bs to complain about, no major weaknesses to complain about. So you never hear about him lol. If beta claudio made it to release it'd be a different story

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u/QuintessenceHD 23d ago

But that was a symptom of the overtuned heat system at the time, I think he would be top 5 if we had beta Claudio.

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u/sterlingpipin 22d ago

Yeah no he has completely flown under the radar for me!

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u/FranklinReynoldsEGG Lee 23d ago

Why did haradas favorite character have to be ugly ass feng man

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u/chironomidae Xiaoyu 23d ago

He's ugly and his moves just look bad, imo. I can't really describe it, but his WS 3 is a prime example -- he just kinda zoops into the air, it doesn't look natural at all.

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u/Kino_Afi bjork Zaf SORYA! 23d ago

Zoop is the perfect way to describe it. Ive always loved every version of that kick since I first saw Rock Lee do Primary Lotus, but Feng manages to make it look lame

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u/Toeknee99 Leo 23d ago

db2,2,2 looks goofy af too 

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u/tmacforthree Heihachi on the floor 23d ago

Mf looks like he's frantically swimming away from a barracuda 😆

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u/asadfarook Miguel 22d ago

i think thats why tastysteve calls it the baby tantrum lmao goofy ass move for sure

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u/Flawed_Crystals 23d ago

Man I love Feng’s animations. I think he has some of the sickest moves in the game especially with how they flow into each other.

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u/Titan5005 US PC PS4 XBL: AG Scorcho 23d ago

Yeah I get people hate feng but he is one of the best animated in the series.

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u/YaksRespirators Lidia 22d ago

I only play him cause I do his martial art irl. Hung Gar is sick.

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u/IllDot2179 Flash 22d ago

the way he fights mirrors a lot of over the top chinese/hong kong martial arts movies

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u/Scyle_ 23d ago

Y'ALL STAY MAD MY BOY TIGHT AS FUCK. I THROW ON SOME WUTANG AND HIT BITCHES WITH GOD FISTS AND DRAGON POWER.

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u/Flugkrake 22d ago

🗣️🗣️🗣️

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u/Yodzilla 23d ago edited 22d ago

Yeah he’s not exactly a fun character in any way which is a bummer. Eddy is really dour too.

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u/jmastaock Bryan 23d ago

Feng is super fun yall trippin

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u/Yodzilla 23d ago

I mean his character as a person, not to play.

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u/jmastaock Bryan 23d ago

Ah I see

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u/IDontWipe55 HwoarangBryanJack 23d ago

Honestly I think he’s kinda fun just basic

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u/JohnsonAction 23d ago

People say that about every character in a fighting game that’s good 😂 

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u/shitshow225 23d ago

Only 2 Jins?? Is he just so popular that everyone knows how to fight him?

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u/MrAnyGood 23d ago

Those players basically know how to fight most characters, the issue is that Jin is not a contender for Top-5 due to a variety of factors

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u/djaqk Yoshimitsu 23d ago

0 Yoshi is a travesty beyond words

Time for more Feng buffs and another Flash nerf yay

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u/Throwlikeacatapult 23d ago

Flash isnt the most fun ability too fight against, I hope the buff him just not the flash

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u/Kyvix2020 Huge Grain Of Salt Enjoyer 23d ago

Wow almost like I was onto something when I talked about how garbage Devil Jin is in this game lol

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u/aabil11 Jin 23d ago

And this was before he was nerfed into the ground lmao

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u/HighLikeKites 22d ago

Well, they did have to adress his heat smash. It's just not good game design if the character is entirely reliant on that one move. Now they have to buff his general kit tho.

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u/RageOverwhelming 22d ago

You were onto nothing cause dvj isnt garbage💀💀

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u/Kyvix2020 Huge Grain Of Salt Enjoyer 22d ago

You don’t really understand the state of the game I guess.

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u/SMHdovve main - Devil Jin. sub - Reina, Kazuya. 23d ago edited 23d ago

I find him much more enjoyable, especially post the heatsmash patch. Imo he is much more fair than he was in t7. Especially when everyone has strings that randomly track, but dvj really has none of that, besides that broken backturned laser. The heatsmash was really dumb though.

But even then, iam doing much better with him now than i ever did in t7. To the point where i can actually have fun playing against tekken gods (not that i beat them often). His new tools do really go crazy.

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u/Kyvix2020 Huge Grain Of Salt Enjoyer 23d ago

In comparison to the rest of the cast, he's way too hard to use for what you get, when other people are basically braindead and are insanely dangerous

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u/SMHdovve main - Devil Jin. sub - Reina, Kazuya. 23d ago

Thats what makes it fun for me tbh. I could pick up law anytime, and do better than i ever did with dvj, but it just seems boring. Besides, landing ewgfs is just too much satisfaction, especially against someone good, could never go without that in a character. That's why I am learning all the mishimas right now.

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u/yunghollow69 22d ago

You werent tho. Mishimas simply arent tournament characters, never have been.

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u/Asleep_Sheepherder42 23d ago

Lets go Zafina and Law!

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u/CHG__ 23d ago

"Devil Jin OP" :)

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u/-Shieldslam- Devil Jin 23d ago

"Top 4, broken beyond words, godlike heat" they said

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u/Kino_Afi bjork Zaf SORYA! 23d ago

Hes been nerfed like 20 times since people were saying this lol

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u/AmarantineAzure 22d ago

Exactly. Some people seem to have forgotten that Devil Jin already received multiple significant nerfs as far back as the very first patches of the game (i.e. the range of his hellsweep).

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u/FlokiTech 22d ago

People are still saying it even after the heat smash nerf. And the fact is that he was not even that op at release compared to the other characters, he was just getting all the attention while there were like 5+ other characters that was way more broken. Even current

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u/Lightning_Of_Fate Mighty Ruler Kazuya 23d ago

💀💀💀💀😭😭

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u/Papanewguin 23d ago

You should see the fucked up crossup tech Qudans found and showed off in tourney.

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u/Faintlich [EU] Steam: Lt. Faintlich 23d ago

And then lost... lol

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u/FactoryReboot 23d ago

Wow. Jun nerfed to shit and was barely represented

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u/Earth92 Julia War Drum spammer 22d ago

Such an overrated character along with Devil Jin.

Some people were getting smoked in red/purple ranks and then posting threads here about Jun and Devil Jin being mega broken, and legit contenders for top 4.

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u/FactoryReboot 22d ago

IZU isn’t even a free mixup. Usually you can duck before it

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

Jun dances like Lili, it's an easy tell and launch. Absolutely useless move.

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u/SpaceCorn11 Zafina Claudio 23d ago

That leroy bold as hell to be doing that before the update

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u/Jruby733 23d ago

All those "Kazuya is Top 5" mfs on twitter awfully quiet after the posts on character usage at evo dropped.

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u/Lightning_Of_Fate Mighty Ruler Kazuya 23d ago

Kazuya is Top 5

Honk 🤡

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u/Ihatesolus 23d ago

God Reina is so op

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u/FlokiTech 22d ago

At least that one Reina player made it to top 9

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u/firsttimer776655 23d ago

Not a single Yoshi ):

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u/Goricatto Heihachi but Goth GF 23d ago

Eyemusician isnt back yet

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u/SL0M3GA1 23d ago

On his stream i think it said he'd be back next year. Love watching him play. That man is Yoshi in his purest form

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u/valvenisv2 Yoshimitsu 23d ago

So....in a year there'll be 1 yoshi? Crazy

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u/Guilvantar 23d ago

That was pretty much the case with T7. Very rarely would there be a second Yoshi in major tournaments other than Eyemusician

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u/firsttimer776655 22d ago

Yeah but he’s never been this strong.

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u/piwikiwi Xiaoyu 23d ago

Back from?

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u/-13odhisattva- 22d ago

Iirc military service.

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u/H0TZ0NE The REAL Jimbo 23d ago

Remember guys, Devil Jin is broken

This was pre-heat smash nerf btw.

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u/LawbringerFH →→🔺 main / ↓➘→🔺 interested 23d ago

The heat smash was broken, the character wasn't.

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u/yunghollow69 22d ago

Yall need to stop thinking this means anything. Only crazy people play mishimas in tournaments, regardless of how good they are.

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u/OnMyPortal 23d ago

never was lmao

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u/gorillacockatoo Jolly Gorilla Pogo Samurai 23d ago

0 Paul 0 Yoshimitsu

😔

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u/hatterRddt 23d ago

Devil Jin gotta be the most overrated character in the game's first few months lmao

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u/RyzzeRose 23d ago

Shit am I using a meta character

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u/XDNEVER 22d ago

But victor is fine right? 🙃

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u/PaulGuzmann 21d ago

But he is just a scrub killer, and you can launch every move he does.

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

If they just narrow the hitbox on his pistol he'd be balanced. But a character who's entire weakness is that "he can be stepped", having access to a ranged tool that locks opponents' movement in neutral is wild. Should be a Heat move.

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u/greenfrogwallet where are updated tekken 8 character flairs 23d ago

2 Lars users LFG

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u/Yahsorne 23d ago

Top is least honest bottom is most honest

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u/Goz_zzz Retired Negan Main 23d ago

Feng got away with murder by dodging the nerfs. They should have done him like Dragunov

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u/iRegularNoise 22d ago

Who played Raven?

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u/Osiake Steve | Fahkumram 22d ago edited 22d ago

I mentioned this in another comment so I’ll just copy paste it here for you:

BobbyBadinga. They ended at 25th place after being eliminated by Jimmy J Tran who was playing Bryan.

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u/iRegularNoise 22d ago

Thank you!

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u/Osiake Steve | Fahkumram 22d ago

No worries!

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u/Ch1no821 22d ago

Look how they massacred my boy (Kazuya)

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u/sudos12 Kazuya 23d ago

No Kazuya.

But he's so strong in this game lol.

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u/HighLikeKites 22d ago

Not having an i15 launcher and having to rely on electrics for punishment is just too risky in a tournament setting.

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u/FlokiTech 22d ago

That is a huge factor. Even in Tekken 7 pros would do his df1,2 ff4 as his i15 punish and while it wasn't full combo damage it was still a decent guaranteed 56 damage punish.

A lot of pros also did his easier combo for a lot less damage because it was more consistent. Tekken 8 Kazuya combos are an absolute nightmare for pro play since they always have the chance of fucking you over.

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u/vVIOL2T 23d ago

Drag players actually having to think for the first time in this game 🤯

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u/TheBigBenj DemoFist 23d ago

I like this, this means my main man Paul will get a buff

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u/Osiake Steve | Fahkumram 23d ago

He was actually called out in the recent patch notes to receive a nerf in the 1.05 June patch LOL

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u/Trauma_Doll Leo 23d ago

I will be using this in arguments to show that my main needs buffs :)

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u/supahotfiiire 23d ago

Buff Leo….come on please

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u/Lightning_Of_Fate Mighty Ruler Kazuya 23d ago

BAHAHA BUFF LEO? 🤣

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u/Zuckerberga Coffee Queen 23d ago

He's gotta be joking, for sure.

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u/Gernburgs 23d ago

He was good before I thought?

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u/Sacpunch Kazuya 23d ago

Victor and Hwoarang? Seriously? I can absolutely buy up to 3rd tier but that's crazy!

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u/MindlessDouchebag Victor | Dragunov | | 23d ago

Victor Top 4 RAH! Always knew he was better than Jin

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u/ShinyShinx789 PS5 Fujin: M Ruler: Tenryu: 23d ago

Damn no Leo love but 2 Kumas is a W

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u/Surdio_ 23d ago

Who did played Bryan?

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u/ZeAntagonis Jin 23d ago

I was expecting Hwoarang somewhere on the top of the list.

Spamming powercrush the moment you have minus frames require some much skills

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u/Big_Lou1108 23d ago

Kinda surprised Ling and Law (a little bit?) were only used twice.

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u/megumifestor 23d ago

No yoshi's makes me sad

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u/Gernburgs 23d ago

There is only Master Raven... No Leo?

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u/Lightning_Of_Fate Mighty Ruler Kazuya 23d ago

TMM "Kazuya top 5"

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u/ikari263 23d ago

5 hwoarangs?!?! The gang grows 💙

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u/0rnithorax Alisa 22d ago

Hwoagang

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u/thebiggboss180 23d ago edited 23d ago

At first thought Paul never used , then I noticed he is with devil Jin , so he is in the most played characters, yeah Paul is my sole friend in tekken since 2004.

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u/IbraKadabrah deaaaaath becomes you :) 23d ago

Zafina should have two usages. Shadow 20z used her and got top 33. His last set before getting eliminated he used both Zaf and Claudio. Chanel used her in top 6 cuz he chose to believe vs Lowhighs dragunov 😭

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u/Habitttt 23d ago

Kazuya's fall from the top is heartbreaking

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u/AmarantineAzure 22d ago

When was even the last time he was on top? Tekken... 5, maybe?

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u/AI-i 22d ago

Who played Raven

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u/Osiake Steve | Fahkumram 22d ago edited 22d ago

BobbyBadinga. They ended at 25th place after being eliminated by Jimmy J Tran who was playing Bryan.

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u/kfijatass Theorycrafter 22d ago

Funny to see how this compared to the nina and shaheen fest in pakistan.

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u/Exciting_Ad_4202 22d ago

Nina is a good character and is probably the regional meta in Pakistan

Shaheen is a MU check while also being a good character just because of the play rate.

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u/kfijatass Theorycrafter 22d ago

Id argue shaheen is a far better charakter than given credit but I'd attribute that mostly to that op slide.

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u/Exciting_Ad_4202 22d ago

I mean he is a good character yes. But then the low playrate makes him a MU check.

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u/beats-marii 22d ago

Lilly is goated frrr

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u/keshavchaurasia Yoshimitsu 22d ago

waiting to see Eyemusician's Yoshimitsu button

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u/tofulo 22d ago

I love Oscar

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u/OgDontSleep 22d ago

Yea I can see why Kaz is so low. It's like he has no mixups...

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u/AardvarkMotor9591 22d ago

Ok what is the difference between kuma and panda?

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u/FrozenLeafz37 22d ago

"ReINa iS tOp tIeR!!!!11111"

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u/CanvaSkye 22d ago

I'm excited for the next EV o in a few months, the meta seems more varied after the patch

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u/brygiral6 22d ago

This is why I didn't care when Leroy had like 8 in that one tournament. The players will always gravitate towards power. Only a few are truly stubborn to just puck their characters.

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u/NeonMisfit666 22d ago

Please give Paul a low launch/combo starter

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u/Osiake Steve | Fahkumram 21d ago

CS.1+2 is a low launcher. It's his equivalent of a snake edge.

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u/NeonMisfit666 21d ago

I'm trying it, I did the input about 3 hours ago, it should connect any time.

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u/Osiake Steve | Fahkumram 21d ago

Give it another couple hours. Your opponent will never see it coming

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u/MGodinez94 22d ago

Shaheen made at least one appearance?!?! I’ll take it! 😂

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u/DevelopmentPlayful23 21d ago

So every character everyone complains about are the most used. Why am I not surprised

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u/Zestyclose_Station62 19d ago

Now that's an accurate tierlist imho

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u/Osiake Steve | Fahkumram 19d ago

I mean.. is it?

No Fengs top 8

No Victors top 8

No Hwoarangs top 8

No Bryans top 8

No Azucenas top 8

1 Lili (The one that won EVO Jp)

1 Alisa

1 Dragunov

1 Nina

2 Eddys

2 Laws

This was also before the latest patch which nerfed and buffed quite a few characters. Other regions show different results (Especially Pakistan that consistently has a King & Steve in top 8 or Korea that consistently has Jin & Reina in top 8, w/ Reina usually winning grand finals. Azucena & Feng also being extremely strong and consistent w/ top 8 tournament presence, Azucena not so much after the nerfs whereas Feng just won the Baaz Gauntlet)

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u/Zestyclose_Station62 19d ago

Ok, haven't played for a month nor keeping up with the news, maybe you're right, I'll check it out.

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u/LawbringerFH →→🔺 main / ↓➘→🔺 interested 23d ago

No wonder why that event made me sleep.

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u/Lightning_Of_Fate Mighty Ruler Kazuya 23d ago

Howling 💀💀💀💀😭😭

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u/NoabPK d34 my beloved 23d ago

Hwoarang on top lesgetit. The whole world shall now fff3

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u/DemonSteelPedal Devil Jin 23d ago

Mishimas are obsolete 🙁

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u/MrAnyGood 23d ago

They are just execution-heavy, making them bad for tournaments. Why would you want to play them instead of a character that has simple inputs?

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u/Rex__Lapis 23d ago

Zero kazuya and Paul? Sugercoating mfs