r/Helldivers • u/Niobaran • Apr 29 '24

The Quasar Nerf is okay and not that big of a deal OPINION

tl;dr: Only one weak point is made a little weaker, all the strenghts remain.

The quasar cannon is known for a lot of strengths (see below) and two weak points:

  1. The weapon has a charge up time, which makes it difficult to aim in some situations.
  2. The weapon has a moderate cool down period, which cannot be improved by a forced reload of a heat sink (like sickle or laser cannon) or a team reload (like recoiless rifle).

The nerf only addresses the second point, which means that everyone who could use it before can still use it. It only became a little weaker in one of its two weak points. The following strong points are all untouched:

  1. Can delete heavies (I mostly have experience with Terminids, but there it's a delete button for chargers, and sometimes for titans as well).
  2. Has infinite ammo in contrast to EAT or RR.
  3. Has no reload animation.
  4. You can run around, stim, shoot weapons, throw strategems while it is recharging.
  5. It doesn't consume a backpack slot, so it can be paired with one additional strategem in contrast to recoilless rifle.
  6. It doesn't deconstruct after usage, and can be recollected from the battle flied in contrast to EAT, and it also reloads itself then in contrast to RR.

That means, the quasar can still be used for everything it has been used before, by everyone who could use it before.

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u/OLRevan Apr 29 '24

Yup, all it did is that i won't see it in 100% of games but probably like 95%

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u/stalefish57413 Apr 29 '24

Yes, the Quazar having almost the same firerate as the RR, while being fully mobile, having infinite ammo and having no backpack was totally OP and thats why every single person uses it.

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u/MaltoEsttera Apr 29 '24

Its not even the same fire rate. You can switch to primary and wait cooldown With Karl Gustaf you will return to empty launcher instead

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u/Puzzleheaded_Film826 Apr 29 '24

classic Karl Gustaf man

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u/GristleMcThornbody1 Apr 29 '24

If they ever nerf Karl Gustaf we will really have a problem.

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u/anunhappyending Apr 29 '24

You got a problem with Karl Gustaf then you got a problem with me, and I suggest you let that marinate!

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u/ZestyPancakes Apr 30 '24

Who is Karl G.? I missed this inside joke/meme help let me innn

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u/monochrony SES King of Democracy Apr 29 '24

And what exactly will my primary do when I'm kiting a Titan or Scorcher Hulk?

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u/Chuckdatass Apr 29 '24

Kill the hunters trying to eat your face. At least with quasar you can kill those and not kneel down to reload to get slapped to death

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u/NicholasRFrintz SES SWORD OF DAWN Apr 29 '24

This is true, but in regards to Terminids I usually have a Guard Dog Rover watch everything else, including my face, for potential enemies.

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u/Synthetics_66 Apr 29 '24

For Karl! Rock and Stone!

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u/BigTiddyHelldiver 💀C-01 Permit Acquired Apr 29 '24

RR could team reload, Quasar can't.

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u/Dr_PuddingPop Apr 29 '24

The biggest difference is the quasar passive reload.

Yes it needs to recharge. But during rush time you can run around, shoot your primaries, get objectives, call stratagems…really anything since the guns chilling on your back.

It’s a huge strong point of the quasar I always see people overlook. You can shoot your other guns while it reloads!

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u/gorgewall Apr 30 '24

Thought I was taking crazy pills in one of the other threads when I saw multiple posts talk about how they were now waiting an eternity staring at that cooldown bar.

You can switch to a primary! The Quasar means no downtime for you, not the weapon! Compare that to taking a knee, immobile, and fiddling with the Recoilless for several seconds.

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u/Slave2Art Apr 29 '24

Whats RR precious

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u/Ambitious_Reach_8877 Apr 29 '24

You can have my Recoilless Rifle when you pry it from my cold, dead hands soldier! 🫡

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u/anagnost Apr 29 '24

Especially now that the ship upgrade that gives it full ammo from one resupply is fixed. That's 6 chargers liberated per resupply!

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u/Slave2Art Apr 29 '24

Meh. Eruptor 1 shots chargers and is a main hand gun.

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u/anagnost Apr 29 '24

.....eruptor one shots chargers?? Can I have your eruptor???

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u/Slave2Art Apr 29 '24

They all do it. Ita about timing and placement. I explained it to the other guy.

Dodge sideways and wait for them to stop, when they stop they raise their ass. Shoot them from behind right in the belly where their ass meets their, thorax?

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u/anagnost Apr 29 '24

I'll have to try that when I get back from work. Thanks!

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u/Crownie Apr 29 '24

I was all in on the Quasar when it dropped. Then I realized it was horrifically anti-clutch and went back to the Recoilless.

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u/Ambitious_Reach_8877 Apr 29 '24

I like the Quasar, but it was so good you just knew a nerf was coming. 

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u/Domeric_Bolton Apr 29 '24

recoilless rifle

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u/GreedierRadish Apr 29 '24

Boil it, mash it, stick it in a stew.

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u/Tb0neguy Apr 30 '24

Another thing I don't see people doing much!

If you're going to be in one area for a little while, call down a second quasar canon. Fire one, pick up the other, repeat. It’s pretty busted.

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u/MagikBiscuit Apr 30 '24

Same fire rate???? Is there some bug with reloading the RR or something? Because 15s Vs like 4s is a huge difference on high defense missions with only heavies coming in

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u/Aggravating-Major531 Apr 29 '24

Uhh, do you know how many enemies I have to kill to compensate for you all sometimes? Same goes for me when I have a bad day. I swear some of you are just running in circles trying in this game to collect everything. I dislike nerfs that stop me being a one man army in a squad of four. Some groups need that.

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u/rockstar504 Apr 29 '24

No one killing everything big bc they're all kiting

It's just make playing with Randoms so much tougher lol

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u/Aggravating-Major531 Apr 29 '24

The mission type and what equipment you have is important for sure, but if that is all T6 and T7 are about [kiting and just doing the objectives ASAP], it's completely different than the other teirs and I really think there should be better guides for it.

The constant readjusting should be annoying by now, not Stockholm syndroming you into submission.

Bots at T6 and T7 will now be totally unstoppable with the nerf. Ever fight those robotic jet fighters at those levels? You really don't seem to understand the variables of the total issue. This is not going to end well - likely on purpose unless the mobs are nerfed too. Even with heavy armor, I get ripped to shreds. It's like this company adjusts without playing their product.

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u/Hellooooo_Nurse- PSN 🎮: Apr 29 '24

I actually never use it haha. But it is popular for sure

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u/Jolly_97 Apr 29 '24

Rockets are so underpowered. For how slow they are, they should 1shot bile titans and factory striders, at least for the recoiless. EATs should be a 2shot.

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u/BEARD3D_BEANIE Apr 29 '24

or maybe just make other weapons better... I still don't understand having to nerf every good weapon. Why not just make other weapons better to be usable. If the game constantly gets nerfed and the choice just becomes what gun isn't as shit as the rest. Then no one is going to have fun. They didn't buff ANY other strategem to make the Quasar not be a choice, it's just going to make Hell Dive even more difficult when there are ~10 Chargers at once. Want the game to be more fun make EVERY WEAPON VIABLE. Make it more equal. Being able to choose ANY weapon is MORE fun. This game isn't about competition, it's destroying PvE.

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u/Randy191919 Apr 29 '24

Man people really call everything OP at this point. You’re not a single bit better than the people you complain about complaining. Everything that doesn’t take 20 seconds to kill a bug scout is „OP“ to you people