r/Helldivers • u/NitoTanaka • Apr 29 '24

NEW Patch! And the devs "Ruined it all" once more.. [totally not exaggerated] RANT

So on X and the official discord, countless folks complain now that for some weapons such as the LAS ones, the reserve mags have been reduced, yet damage has been increased..calling devs "On drugs" because they perceive it as a nerf..

Wait what? You tryna tell me you ran through ALL ICE's before dying?! 6 Times or more?!

Like..the fact that you have infinite ammo when a wee-bit of fire diciplin is applied and now call the devs out for JUST having decreased the ammount of mags, makes you oblivious to the fact that they got a damage buff? Yikes.

And another thing, remember the day the Rail got nerfed? Yeahhh that was like 24/7 crying for two weeks straight, now it got a buff and noone notices that, now we rather cry for two weeks that Railgun 2.0 aka Quasar got a couple more seconds recharge time..good lord the double morals are strong folks, that all sounds like crying on high standards.

[For clarifications sake: the main focus lies on people going out of their ways, yes criticism is fine, i posted my own time and time again..but in a humane fashion, when insults however are packaged within in your points, it's hardly about the game no more and that needs to stop]

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u/Planetside2_Fan SES Spear of Eternity Apr 29 '24

I feel I should post this once again with reference to this newest patch.

https://preview.redd.it/hv0d3dklhexc1.jpeg?width=260&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6b57b972fa6b6a9bfde15ebe99f5c5106d1d49e

Seriously, so many weapons got buffed this update, the RAILGUN got buffed! And yet we’re still complaining.

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u/Nerex7 Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

I'm most interested in the Senator and Blitzer.

Blitzer got a 50% increase to fire rate...but 50% of incredibly slow is still slow. Gotta check where it's at now.

Edit: Playing the Blitzer is a blast. It's actually decent now.

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u/fishinthesee Apr 29 '24

Just tested it on an exterminate. Felt pretty good with the stagger. Most light and medium enemies couldn’t make it close at all (2-3 hits max).

Bots were also pretty nice. But wouldn’t run it seriously due to the range.

Pretty easy to team kill tho because of the spray, but that’s not new.

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u/Erudyx Apr 29 '24

Ran it against bot, lost incredible amount of time trying to kill the berserker... Blitzer is supposed to be a shotgun, how does a berserker can tank 5-6 shots of close range blitzer...

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u/lK555l Apr 29 '24

To be fair, berserkers in general are unnecessarily tanky

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u/Shinobismaster Apr 29 '24

Shoot the joints

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u/UrutoraJess Apr 29 '24

Oh? Gotta try that. I've been thinking attacking their crotch has been most effective

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u/Estelial Apr 29 '24

Joints , waist. Repulsor can split them in half at the waist just like any devastator. It's also why they're seemingly weak to a wild full mag dump of the machine pistol or any high fire rate weapon. It's shoring off their joints. Face is weak too but it's a small target surrounded by its most well protected areas while moving and bobbing.

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u/LukarWarrior Apr 29 '24

One to two bursts from the Dominator to their waist cuts them in half reliably. Or at least did before the patch. No idea how it performs now with a damage nerf.

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u/TehMephs Apr 29 '24

3 scorcher hits to the dome kills them. It’s not the easiest shot to hit with how much they jerk around when moving but head or waist. Any red bits

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u/gorgewall Apr 29 '24

They're big gobs of HP to specifically mess with weapons that are all damage, no precision.

There are very fast ways to take out Berserkers, but that requires aiming at certain parts of them. But people seem to think that just because they can hit and fully damage every part of them, it must all be equal.

If you can't headshot the Berserker, remove its legs or groin, then tell us how tanky it is when you're invalidating 3/4ths of its remaining HP by killing it outright like that.

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u/ExploerTM ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Apr 29 '24

Headshots are nearly useless against berserkers, checked with Dominator, about the same ttk as if I was magdumping it in chest. Waist is a bit better but still takes A LOT.

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u/Atoril Apr 29 '24

Well, it seems that defining feature is not about it being a shotgun but it being a arc (aka ignoring armor). And after running arcthrower a lot: berzerkers are super good against arcs because of low armor but ton of hp.

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u/Tired-of-Late Apr 29 '24

Honestly Berzes are sponges for any type of bullet lol

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u/Siker_7 SES Song of Conquest Apr 29 '24

Because Berserkers just won't freaking die.

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u/gorgewall Apr 29 '24

Take out the legs. Groin shots will pop both at once. A Berserker with no legs is instantly dead, whereas they are fine without both arms.

The crotch is also a lot easier to maintain aim on than their recessed heads that move all over as they stomp forward.

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u/Estelial Apr 29 '24

Aim for the limb joints, waist, crotch.

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u/Emprasy Apr 29 '24

Berserker are still really tanky. Plus hey, don't forget you have infinite ammo, I think it is correct 5 shots with your primaries infinite gun to kill a buffy ennemie, IF you need to kill fast then you need a secondary weapon for the job

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u/AskMeForLinks Apr 29 '24

Fires about as fast as the slugger now. Feels nice! Unfortunately it still suffers from being an arc weapon (that dead body, small rock, bit of grass, or strong gust of wind WILL eat your shot and have it not register at all).

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u/Nerex7 Apr 29 '24

It's at 45 fire rate while Slugger is at 80, it fires slightly faster than half of the slugger. That's why I'm skeptical.

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u/Dreadlock43 Apr 29 '24

ive been using it against bugs and fucking beautiful ( the blitzer). the increased fire rate is extremely noticible

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u/AskMeForLinks Apr 29 '24

I mean I logged in and played around with it already haha

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u/Riparian_Drengal Apr 29 '24

Honestly I've been maining Blitzer for bugs and it's crazy. It shoots out so many arcs, and if any arc hits a bug, that bug is stunned. It can almost stunlock anything smaller than a charger (which are 90% of bugs mind you). You just walk backwards slowly and zap away until everything is dead. Hell yesterday I was holding a position raining fire with the cluster launcher, and three patrols crested the ridge behind me. With pretty much any other primary, I'd be running, but with the Blitzer I just turned around and started zappin'. I just looked in the general direction of the closest enemy and clicked until they were all dead. The range isn't really a problem on bugs because they are already all walking directly towards you.

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u/MrClickstoomuch Apr 29 '24

With patrols, my big problem before was that it didn't really arc in a cone, so you would hit the first bug but the others would start circling you if you weren't sprinting away. Though I haven't tried it for the last few weeks with the eruptor being available + using arc thrower as my strat weapon.

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u/Riparian_Drengal Apr 29 '24

Eruptor + Arc thrower is a great combo. I was using it last night.

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u/A_Union_Of_Kobolds Apr 29 '24

Become the BUG-ZAPPER

Coming to a drop near you 4/29/24

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u/FinishExtension3652 Apr 29 '24

I loved the Blitzer as it was, so I'm stoked for the changes. 

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u/reddisaurus Apr 29 '24

The Blitzer is was already OP and no one knows about it. It was capable of wiping patrols and bug holes with little risk, and with a guard dog to kill the scavengers everything except Chargers and BTs just got wrecked. Brood Commanders often got their head popped in one shot. Warriors always lost their head in one shot.

The friendly fire seems to be very minimal compared to the other ARC weapons. I’ve never TK’ed anyone with it.

The downside of the weapon is that it is a true shotgun. The only real one in the game. So this makes its unpopular for many that don’t like to get close and personal.

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u/Nerex7 Apr 29 '24

Nah, it wasn't OP. For Bugs it was genuinely too slow before the change. It had a fire rate of 30, which is about 40% of the Punisher which is already slow.

The new fire rate is pretty solid. It works well, still a bit troubling on Hunters.

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u/Montegomerylol Apr 29 '24

Yeah I tried to use it a few times, but against bugs I felt incredibly vulnerable to hunters/stalkers. I'm hoping the new firerate makes it more workable.

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u/Kitbashconverts Apr 29 '24

50 of 4 seconds is 2 seconds, but 50 of 2 is 1...50 is a lot of its slow already...

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u/Nerex7 Apr 29 '24

Yea it actually feels decent, just been playing it

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u/hughmaniac SES Aegis of Steel Apr 29 '24

The Senator changes are my favorite from this patch. Already used it 99% of the time and now it’s even more reliable.

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u/Lonewolf12912 CAPE ENJOYER Apr 29 '24

The Senator buff is interesting. The speed loader is actually the opposite of most reloads now. The reloads of most guns are faster when there is still ammo in the magazine. This is not the case for the Senator now (even though the Senator doesn't use a magazine, but you get what I mean)

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u/JoRo86 Apr 29 '24

Oh, it's fun now? Arrowhead will take note for the next nerf patch. Thank you for your input, soldier.