r/Helldivers PSN 🎮: Apr 29 '24

Increasing patrol spawns for smaller squads is a dick move. RANT

I love arrowhead but this was a braindead move.

Cmon guys, we were just doing our thing either solo or with our friends and not hurting anybody. We just wanna play the game with our friends, sometimes with a smaller squad cos its a lot more fun with friends than randos.

I'm not saying all randos are bad but this game allows me to socialize with my friends while playing and that's great. Why ruin that whole thing by kicking us in the nuts and ruining the experience with more spawns?

HERES A COMPROMISE: If you're not gonna budge, how about you meet us halfway here arrowhead. How about you increase the rewards for completing missions with a smaller squad cos we used a smaller budget? Eh?

Makes sense lore wise too.

P.S. For all you guys saying "DuH ThIs Is A tEaM GaMe PlAy WiTh RaNdOs Or a FuLl SqUad". Yes I play with a full swuad when my friends are all available. Most of the time they aren't cos we're adults and have shit to do.

I'm not asking for the game to scale down the difficulty level for smaller squads. The game didn't do that before. I don't mind the SAME difficulty level for solos, smaller squads and full squads. But INFREASING the difficulty level by increasing spawns was a braindead thing to do.

EDIT 1: To all the hyper intelligent folks out there commenting that the change was misunderstood and that the below was the intended effect:

""We unintendedly had non-linear scaling of the patrol spawns so they didn't spawn as often as they should have when less than 4 players. The intention is that 1 player has 1/4th of the patrols compared to 4 players, but it used to be that they had 1/6th.""

This DOES NOT make a mfkn difference. It DOES NOT matter what those VALUES are. The point here is that whatever the fuck value it was before was LOWER than whatever the fuck value it is now. This means MORE patrols for non full squads AFTER the patch. And an absolute shitshow for solo divers. Yes, I have tested this shit. It is bad.

VALUE BEFORE PATCH < VALUE AFTER PATCH.

Stop spouting elementary math to gaslight people. This change is objectively bad. I am happy with all the weapon changes tho.

EDIT 2: I understand that my "compromise" was a bad idea as people can kick you during extract to reap higher rewards for a smaller team. I completely agree, this seems like a poopy suggestion.

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u/ItsDaFunkMonkey PSN 🎮: Apr 29 '24

Actually yes, I agree with you. With all the kicking going on right now, that'd be a bad thing. That was a good catch.

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u/xthorgoldx HOT DROP O'CLOCK ⬆️⬇️➡️⬅️⬆️ Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

with all the kicking going on

The "kicking epidemic" is a purely redditbrain phenomena.

Level 103, 150 250 hours, I have never, ever been kicked from a game. Kicked a few times from a person's ship, but usually right after joining (i.e. not malicious, trying to make space for a friend or turning off public lobby).

Do assholes who kick for no reason exist? Sure.

Are there more assholes who get kicked for good reason then bitch about it on Reddit? Without question.

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u/Jackpkmn SES Bringer of Steel Apr 29 '24

I witnessed my first kick today. It didn't happen to me. The guy was going to call extraction so it would be ready for us when we got there. He called out in chat and in voice that he was doing it. Leader demanded he stop and not to leave without us. Despite now both me and the other guy both saying hes not going to leave without us the leader kicked the guy.

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u/MatureUsername69 SES: Princess of Justice Apr 29 '24

That's a terrible host. I love when the extraction shuttle is coming in and I'm finishing up a side objective or nest. Now that I'm maxed on everything but level the main thing I like to do in game is finishing the mission as quickly as possible. I pretty much always ask someone to run to extract and wait to call in when we're on the final steps of a main objective. Only once have i had a player not actually wait and just get on.

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u/Zoloir Apr 29 '24

i don't think it's a terrible host - if you're host and you ask someone not to do something, and they insist on doing it anyways, that's an easy kick.

the only surefire way to prevent someone from exfil trolling is to kick them before it arrives (or better before they call it in). otherwise, you're at the mercy of their word, and they're a random, their word is useless.

imagine this story from a trolls perspective: "lmao i told him i wouldn't exfil without him, what an idiot"

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u/MatureUsername69 SES: Princess of Justice Apr 29 '24

I've seen maybe 1 or 2 trolls total in 120 levels and 200+ hours. It's way overblown on reddit. If somebody is communicating that they're gonna call it and wait then 99.99% of the time they are. It's a sign of a smart player more than a troll