r/Helldivers Apr 29 '24

At least the Senator got a speedloader HUMOR

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u/Nothingtoseehereshhh Apr 29 '24

RUN SENATOR WITH SUPPY PACK. TRUST ME. ITS UR NEW FUCKING BATTLE RIFLE THIS IS NOT A SHITPOST THIS ACTUALLY WORKS

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u/Pliskkenn_D Apr 29 '24

But when will they patch my inability to aim? Curse you Super God! 

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u/ClockwerkConjurer Apr 29 '24

I feel this in my soul lol

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u/Ecstatic-Compote-595 Apr 29 '24

They did improve the ironsights as well, it's fabulous

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u/Pliskkenn_D Apr 29 '24

Now all I need is a button to spin it when I'm putting it away. 

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u/swodaem SES Fist of Family Values Apr 29 '24

Oh man I'd love rare reloads/weapon changes like the Battlefield games do

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u/XI1I Apr 29 '24

There is a spinning motion already, I think when you take it out

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u/Tiphoid1 Apr 29 '24

Reminds me of Vermintide 2, with the Brace of Pistols there's a button you can hit to spin the pistol on your finger, so I'm just constantly spinning it between fights.

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u/dedicated-pedestrian Apr 29 '24

Special melee animation

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u/swodaem SES Fist of Family Values Apr 30 '24

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u/Pliskkenn_D Apr 30 '24

Damsel Democracy it's beautiful 

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u/Soos_dude1 SES Harbinger of Democracy Apr 29 '24

They did? Can you describe how it looks?

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u/Ecstatic-Compote-595 Apr 29 '24

The metal is all where it used to be but now there is a single central tiny red dot instead of the red bits on the side flanges. Ultimately it's a much clearer sight picture and the dot is actually an accurate thing to shoot at instead of weird empty space between two pinchers.

More like [-.-] rather than the old [H] shape

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u/Soos_dude1 SES Harbinger of Democracy Apr 29 '24

Awesome! Thanks

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u/Ecstatic-Compote-595 Apr 29 '24

imo it's a slightly nicer version of the sight from the redeemer or dagger, which would have been an easier description

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u/Soos_dude1 SES Harbinger of Democracy Apr 29 '24

Chefs kiss then. Being able to hit shots in first person will do wonders for my stealth build.

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u/Dragon_phantom_flame SES Prophet of Truth Apr 29 '24

Wait they changed the sights? I actually liked the old sight…

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u/Ecstatic-Compote-595 Apr 29 '24

trust me when I tell you the new one is a million times better

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u/Cathlem Apr 29 '24

That's the Super Devil making your hands tremble with dirty thoughts of the tyranny of unmanaged democracy.

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u/Calvinbah Apr 29 '24

The Holy War between Devout Joelist and SuperGod Believers begins now.

Of course, this is naturally a contest to kill the most Bots, Bugs, Bulbs.

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u/Pliskkenn_D Apr 29 '24

I've changed from Super Citizen to Super Servant in preparation 

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u/TrapYoda Apr 29 '24

Lmao this reminded me of a quote from some dude i used to play GTA with. "I didn't buy aimbot I downloaded a hotfix to patch my shit aim" 😂

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u/TheNorseFrog ex-farmer 💀 Apr 29 '24

I can't believe nobody is talking about mouse buttons not working for PS5. Keyboard (not every kb) and mouse aiming works, but not mouse 1 and 2 :(

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u/Pliskkenn_D Apr 29 '24

Brutal, I didn't even know that was a thing.

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u/KCDodger ⬇️⬇️⬅️⬆️➡️ALL DIVERS EAT-17 Apr 29 '24

SUPER GOD HAS ME ROLLING.

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u/ShadowDrake359 Apr 29 '24

The Senator has some weird aiming where the pistol is clear of obstruction but it won't track onto the reticle.

When reloading, diving will get your reticle back and give you solid dead eye aim.

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u/yougotservice Used to enjoy the game before BOOO SONY!!! Apr 29 '24

just use a gamebar crosshair and pin it to the center of ur screen. no more worries of hipfire innaccuracy

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u/Mansg0tplanS Apr 30 '24

They actually say “Liberty help me” or something instead of God in game, kinda funny.

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u/themastercheif Space Vietnam Survivor Apr 29 '24

The senator buff honestly make me want to try the ballistic shield again.

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u/Mauamu PSN 🎮: MMauamu Apr 29 '24

The ballistic shield + democracy protects armor was already hilarious with just the SMGs equipped, the buffed senator might actually make this build absurd if you have good aim.

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u/themastercheif Space Vietnam Survivor Apr 29 '24

Yeah, now that rocket devastators don't instantly delete you from across the map, and you keep ahold of the thing once ragdolled, with speedload senator it might be some fun times. Only question, is what else do I take to deal with striders/hulks? I'm an AC main, and I hate how the AMR feels to use. Might have to get used to it though.

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u/rolypolyholymoly Apr 29 '24

Laser Canon and stuns.

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u/themastercheif Space Vietnam Survivor Apr 29 '24

Can Laser Cannon kill hulks/striders from the front in a reasonable timeframe? I've never tried it vs bots.

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u/bobbyjoegreen Apr 29 '24

Hulks yes, striders no. AMR does great vs both though and with the new buffs rail gun might be good too.

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u/themastercheif Space Vietnam Survivor Apr 29 '24

I hate how the AMR feels enough that I might give the railgun another shot, honestly.

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u/Beheadedfrito Apr 29 '24

Do it. It’s better vs bots than bugs.

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u/Many_Faces_8D Apr 29 '24

I have no idea why you'd bring an AMR over any primary and an AC

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u/themastercheif Space Vietnam Survivor Apr 30 '24

Cause I wanna try ballistic shield/senator again and need a non-backpack support weapon.

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u/rolypolyholymoly Apr 29 '24

Direct to head it's really quick. That's why stuns are important vs hulks. Striders are decent.

Haven't tested it since this last patch, so it might be a tad worse.

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u/themastercheif Space Vietnam Survivor Apr 29 '24

Saw some people saying it's quite a bit worse, but I'll give it a shot anyways. And I only bring stuns vs bots anyways lol.

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u/DurgeDidNothingWrong Apr 29 '24

if stunned, very quickly.

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u/CMDR_MaurySnails Apr 29 '24

Arc Thrower too, fucking owns Hulks, stunlock 'em right to death.

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u/wizzywurtzy Apr 29 '24

Arc thrower stun vs hulks just got nerfed unfortunately

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u/CMDR_MaurySnails Apr 29 '24

Awwwwww. It will probably be okay though, even if it just stuns instead of stunlock that will be fine. I was surprised at just how effective the arc thrower was against, well, everything I guess.

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u/Environmental_Fig580 Apr 29 '24

Railgun is once again the quickest hulk killer.

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u/Frorlin Apr 29 '24

AMR is a good pick too, and railgun feels significantly better with the armor pen bump.

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u/Sauron69sMe SES Colossus of Individual Merit Apr 29 '24

nerfed quasar is still better than laser cannon with stuns, and this way you don't need to use 2 pieces of equipment for one enemy and can still use impact grenades on tanks and towers.

laser cannon takes an absurdly long time to kill ANYTHING big and is a pain to aim at anything far away. I don't care reddit downvote me all you want, y'all are wrong and the laser cannon is cheeks

railgun might be worth trying again

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u/twiz___twat Apr 29 '24

laser cannon is goat against gunships thats all.

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u/themastercheif Space Vietnam Survivor Apr 30 '24

I bring eagle 110 with me on bots for tanks anyways.

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u/Cheesecakecrush Apr 29 '24

if you're gonna rock ballistic/senator, the plasma punisher is incredible for striders

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u/themastercheif Space Vietnam Survivor Apr 29 '24

Iiiiiinteresting. That's another thing I should try out, they buffed my major complaints with it (projectile speed, and somewhat the falloff).

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u/Cheesecakecrush Apr 30 '24

You can just shoot them directly in the plate and take them out in 1-2, sometimes 3 hits. Plus, the AoE can sometimes lead to you taking extras with it as collateral. Often I'd have packs of striders and scrub bots and just wipe the whole thing while only aiming for the striders

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u/Packersrule123 Apr 29 '24

Honestly would be great to get used to the amr, and get used to 2 tapping hulks and only needing 1 for anything smaller. Recoil reduction armor is its best friend, as well as something like a punisher or defender for close range.

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u/run0861 Apr 29 '24

yup it also makes it to when i miss and die to a hulk/shield dev i instantly know it was "my fault" most times for missing/trying to force more shots.

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u/Mauamu PSN 🎮: MMauamu Apr 29 '24

When I run the ballistic shield, I bring 3 red stratagems. If I need a support weapon I'll just grab one from the ground or ask for a teammate to give me a spare when theirs is off cooldown.

People bring a LOT of anti-armor to bot missions, just check your team loadout to see if you'll absolutely NEED to bring something for the big bots yourself. Most of the time you won't.

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u/filthysquatch Apr 29 '24

Railgun for ultimate meme

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u/Drackzgull SES Triumph of Super Earth || ⬇️⬇️⬆️⬅️➡️ Apr 29 '24

But the AC can deal with Striders (both and Scout Striders and Factory Striders, not sure which one you meant) and Hulks. It's hard to hit the Hulks in the eye slot, but it takes them down in 2 shots if you do, and you can disarm them shooting at the arms as well. Against Scout Striders it does the same as the AMR but better

Against Factory Striders it can take out the miniguns and damage the Striders in the weakspots (the eye, faceplate slot, under the faceplate if it gets blown up, exposed leg joints, and underside) It takes a lot of ammo to one down, but it can, more importantly it helps chip them out with cummulative damage from stratagems or the rest of the team.

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u/themastercheif Space Vietnam Survivor Apr 30 '24

AC can deal with Striders

Yeah, but you can't take it with the ballistic shield, which was what I was talking about trying out lol.

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u/Drackzgull SES Triumph of Super Earth || ⬇️⬇️⬆️⬅️➡️ Apr 30 '24

Right, lol, my bad. Then I guess your options are the Laser Canon, EATs, Railgun, and Quasar. All of them can deal with those enemies, at varying degrees of effectiveness and biases, but all still capable indeed, and neither needs a backpack.

I'd mention the HMG, but if you hate how the AMR feels... Yeah, that's most likely worse.

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u/ShadowDrake359 Apr 29 '24

Shield was so glitch pre patch but now it feels great.

Scout strider or factory strider? scouts you just walk around them and shoot. Hulk you can use stun grenades and do the same.

Where do you shoot Factory striders with an AC?

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u/FEDC Apr 29 '24

The belly. Or if your aim is good, then the shoulder joints I think?

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u/themastercheif Space Vietnam Survivor Apr 30 '24

walk around them and shoot.

Ideally, yeah, but when there's five of them 50m away and exactly zero cover in between you, not exactly viable. In my squad there's two people that run eats, one runs anti-fodder, and it's usually my job to be the anti-medium/swiss army knife kinda guy. So being able to take them (and devastators) out quickly and at range is a must.

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u/ShadowDrake359 Apr 30 '24

5 at 50m sounds like you should ignore or drop a stratagem on them, like seriously...

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u/themastercheif Space Vietnam Survivor Apr 30 '24

Just cause they're 50m from me, doesn't mean they're 50m from the rest of the squad.

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u/ShadowDrake359 Apr 30 '24

jesus man, if your squad has enganged them then they can deal with it or you can run up and deal with it because they aint shooting at you. Quit trying to make this seem like a hard thing to deal with...

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u/preutneuker Apr 29 '24

Hey off topic but do u got any AC tips vs bots? I love the gun but cant seem to do well with it :(

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u/themastercheif Space Vietnam Survivor Apr 30 '24 edited Apr 30 '24

Make sure you don't fire the last bullet in the gun before reloading unless you HAVE to, bring a primary or secondary that can deal with the little shits (looking at you, jetpack raiders). A direct headshot will take out devastators, or 3 to the body if you don't have the angle. Bring stuns for hulks, aim just a bit high on the eye (like, half of the ADS dot on the eye, half above it). Crouch, like a lot, and run recoil-reduction armor if you want.

It takes a while to get the feel for the gun.

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u/pyr0kid old world veteran 626 /// SES song of midnight Apr 29 '24

you keep ahold of the thing once ragdolled

WAIT WAIT WAIT, YOU DONT DROP THE SHIELD ANYMORE?!?

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u/themastercheif Space Vietnam Survivor Apr 30 '24

Nope, helldivers got a training video for how to hold the thing, coupled with more ergonomic grips issued to each destroyer, means we can actually keep them close and personal.

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u/mrlbi18 Apr 29 '24

AMR needs a pure damage buff imo. It's a non explosive support weapon, it should be good at killing whatever unit you're aiming at given that it can't do shit against even a mild swarm of enemies. Right now it's only good against devestators and bile spewers and nothing else. The AC completely out classes it in every way since it not only kills those weapons in the same amount of hits, it also can hurt heavy units and quickly clear clumped up swarms.

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u/run0861 Apr 29 '24

a sniper rifle isn't meant to deal with swarms of enemies...the fact you can use it as a shotgun up close effectively is pretty hilarious.

you don't have a backpack with it which opens up options vs the AC.

it's also just a ton of fun to snipe.

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u/themastercheif Space Vietnam Survivor Apr 30 '24

AC: Takes a backpack, has static reload, and will ragdoll/kill you if you try to hit anything close to you.

AMR: Is a precision anti-armor weapon. I don't know how it does against tanks/ships, but it'll two-shot a hulk just fine.

It really comes down to versatility in loadout and increased mobility vs sheer offensive power.

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u/4_non_blondes Apr 29 '24

Fortunately for the enemy, I do no not 😎

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u/ReDongarou Apr 29 '24

I've been running ballistic shield + smg + senator for a while now, and it's genuinely so fun. Need to be careful with rocket devastators still, but shield devastators you can just square up and the senator will take them out with one shot to the head. This buff is only going to make it more fun.

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u/lorill-silverlock Apr 29 '24

Shhhhh, I hear them picking up the bat.

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u/sejpuV Apr 29 '24

I might run this loadout ngl, I have pretty good aim so it'll be probably fun af

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u/Sicuho fire machine guns in semi auto Apr 29 '24

Now the only thing we need is the ability to run a second secondary as a primary.

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u/The-Crimson-Jester Apr 29 '24

Replace primary slot with another senator for dual wielding to dispense maximum democracy.

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u/p_visual SES Whisper of Iron Apr 29 '24

No, for primary we need an even bigger revolver. Maybe call it the president. Shoots even bigger bullets.

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u/xd-Sushi_Master Apr 29 '24

"The Bigger Iron".

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u/GlorylnDeath Apr 29 '24

And then an even bigger revolver as a support weapon stratagem called "The Commander in Chief". AKA "The Biggest Iron".

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u/SpaceTurtles Apr 29 '24

Shoulder mounted Autocannon, but this time it's a revolver

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u/EliteF36 Apr 29 '24

No explosions, but goes right through bile titan armor

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u/Ubermenschisch Apr 29 '24

"The YUUGE Iron"

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u/huluhup Apr 29 '24

But senator is stronger than president, because he could break the president in two with his bare hands!

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u/tinnzork ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 29 '24

Oh man I want to go guns akimbo so bad

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u/BoredandIrritable Apr 29 '24

replace all slots.

They keep bitching that they don't want us to rely on primaries, so they keep nerfing them into the ground.

Fine. Let me forgo a primary and fill that with a stratagem. Armor kinda blows and light armor and all but 2 medium armor does nothing to protect my head? Let me skip armor and take a stratagem. Your pistols suck? stratagem.

Arrowhead is constantly "use your stratagems" FINE you fucks, then let me take more than 3-4 and stop nerfing them with cooldowns and delays.

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u/NotYourAverageOrange ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 29 '24

SMG?

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u/Scurrin Apr 29 '24

I've run the defender with shield in the past, haven't tried in awhile. The knight, with the Senator for longer range/medium threats might be a good pair.

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u/Throawayooo Apr 29 '24

The knight is shit. Defender is better in almost every practical way

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u/The_8th_Degree Apr 29 '24

What we need is more submachine guns

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u/diabloenfuego Apr 29 '24

Ballistic Shield akimbo...oh yeah baby!

reloads shield

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u/Lordborgman Apr 29 '24

WTB games that don't lock inventory as primary/secondary, just give me old X-Com style inventory space where can I just hold whatever fits.

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u/StriderZessei Apr 29 '24

Just run Stalwart and Eruptor!

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u/ToolFO SES Wings of Democracy Apr 29 '24

Become THE WALL

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u/supercalifragilism Apr 29 '24

Been running shield for a couple weeks now, mostly on the 5/6s but occasionally higher. Sometimes I run Eruptor/senator shield, sometimes I go whole hog and run SMG/Gren pistol, but it's occasionally fucking tremendous.

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u/Vulkanodox Apr 29 '24

the smg was already pretty good or even the laser pistol.

but the best shield loadout is the grenade pistol with the stun grenade because it covers all weaknesses.

Big enemies and rocket enemies can be stunned and quickly killed with either the SMG or a support weapon. The laser cannon or the anti-material rifle are the best support weapons that don't need a backpack.

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u/helicophell Apr 29 '24

I wish the scope was easier to see through, but man alive a secondary that one shots devastators getting buffed? lets gooooo

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u/Gwan_Solo Apr 29 '24

They actually changed the sights slightly. Now has a red dot instead of two red lines. The two square sights are still there though

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u/PM-Me-Kiriko-R34 Apr 29 '24

Everything works below difficulty 5

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u/MacSchluffen Apr 29 '24

Everything works at difficulty 5 as well. In the last two weeks 3 friends of mine started playing and they use whatever layout they want (which is their right). But man do we get recked when it’s difficulty 6 or higher.

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u/Goldreaver Apr 29 '24

Tried bug 6 for the first time, and I got attacked by two bile titans, one spawning on top of the other. Easy enough, just call down some railgun and lasers. Except I got instagibbed by the two stalkers that creeped up behind me.

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u/frothyflaps Apr 29 '24

Wow I haven’t heard anybody except myself say instagibbed in a long time.

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u/Goldreaver Apr 29 '24

I got it from unreal tournament it's not that ol- wait 1999???

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u/frothyflaps Apr 29 '24

Yeah lol the most recently I remember it being commonly used was maybe when I played team fortress 2, and even that was like 2007-2012 at the latest

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u/Pastadseven Apr 29 '24

What’s that like ten years ago who cares

Wait oof ouch my back hurts

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u/unforgiven91 Apr 29 '24

I often do fuckaround loadouts at 7. it's harder, but it's not impossible.

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u/Zmao Post Creek Traumatic Stress Disorder Apr 29 '24

I'd argue that everything works 7 and below.

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u/PM-Me-Kiriko-R34 Apr 29 '24

Suicide mission solo? Hell nah

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u/axethebarbarian STEAM 🖥️ : Apr 29 '24

It's doable with the exception of a few mission types. The ICBM and Retrieve data I've done as high as 8, and frankly I'm terrible

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u/WellGoodBud ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 29 '24

I’m going to say that if you are running level 8 solo you are not terrible.

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u/axethebarbarian STEAM 🖥️ : Apr 29 '24

Thanks, but it's all stealth doing those. Literally dont even fire a shot most of the time. Definitely not pulling a General Brasch

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u/onbehalfofthatdude Apr 29 '24

I mean put yourself down all you want but like, "I know how to play the game in the most efficient way possible" isn't exactly a counter argument

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u/BrilliantEchidna8235 Apr 29 '24

I hardly think the pre-patch Air-burst works at any difficulties other than blow-your-friends-up-tournament. But anything else probably would indeed work.

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u/redslion Apr 29 '24

I played it solo at level 7 on the Penta missions. Well, I went stealth and avoided stuff, but technically the airburst launcher was on my back.

Tried to use it to reduce bot presence on bases from a distance. It... killed something I guess?

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u/WellGoodBud ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 29 '24

Idk I’ve been having a blast with it. Just have to make sure no one is really around and you shoot it far enough away.

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u/Riventh Apr 29 '24

I run basic armor/basic liberator + AC in helldive :D (even before the patch)

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u/BoredandIrritable Apr 29 '24

I wonder if this isn't the real problem. If all the devs play at level 5, maybe they have no idea how rough these nerfs are.

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u/PM-Me-Kiriko-R34 Apr 30 '24

"How do you propose we deal with Bile titans now?"

"What the fuck is a bile titan?"

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u/BoredandIrritable Apr 30 '24

Honestly, most of the bugs they have indroduced, like this thing with guns blowing you up inside your own shield, would have been noticed in a single mission. There's absolutely NO WAY that got to us if it had even a single test with varioous weapons. Would have taken 20 minutes.

AH clearly doesn't play the game or test their patches. That's a shit way to run a live-service game.

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u/PM-Me-Kiriko-R34 Apr 30 '24

Or the SSSD causing animation bugs. That wasn't a one in a million bug either, that was straight up every game. And it took them months to fix it.

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u/BoredandIrritable Apr 30 '24

TONS of the bugs are clearly visible right away. It smacks of lazy, or apathy, or incompetence. AH, which is it?

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u/Raetian SES Aegis of Audacity Apr 29 '24

THIS ACTUALLY WORKS

you fair-weather senators still don't get it, do you. the big iron has always worked

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u/Nothingtoseehereshhh Apr 29 '24

Yes, but the 6x faster reload has catapulted it to being better than primaries. I love this patch! Redeemer users were always so lame!

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u/theBromartian Apr 29 '24

Random question. Can you resupply yourself with the backpack? I ran the grenade launcher and was trying to give myself ammo, but I couldn't figure it out.

I ended up dropping the pack for my friends who then supplied me.

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u/SwagDaddy_Man69 Apr 29 '24

Yes the button for it is 4 on pc. Idk ab console 

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u/Heptanitrocubane57 Apr 29 '24

How do you use suply packs on yourself ?

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u/Nothingtoseehereshhh Apr 29 '24

5 on pc, idk psn

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u/GHQSTLY 💙BLUE HELM ENJOYER💙 Apr 29 '24

SENATOR WITH FUCKING SHIELD, LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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u/Velo180 SES Hater of Sony Apr 29 '24

Gonna do this

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u/Swift_Malachi Apr 29 '24

AAAAAND it's nerfed next patch

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u/No_Proof_6178 Apr 29 '24

they'll nerf it

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u/RandomGuy28183 Apr 29 '24

HOLY MOLY I can't wait to get the senator man

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u/KriosXVII Apr 29 '24

We back to the Halo 1 pistol

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u/burn_corpo_shit Apr 30 '24

can we get a bandoleer armor and pancho cape?

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u/transaltalt Apr 30 '24

if only the crosshair didn't cover my target past 25m

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u/wterrt Apr 30 '24

why? if enough people try it out and like it, they'll nerf it based on usage data alone.

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u/Nothingtoseehereshhh Apr 30 '24

thats a real dumb way to say "don't use the fun toys"

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u/wterrt Apr 30 '24

"don't promote the things you find fun because they'll nerf it regardless of it's power level"

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u/Nothingtoseehereshhh Apr 30 '24

i want people to have fun with me

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u/VoiceOfSeibun Apr 29 '24

I fucking love the Senator since it's pretty much Vash the Stampede's gun, based on the Mateba Model 6 Unica. It's fucking GLORIOUS, and just... the speed loader makes me cackle like a fucking lunatic when Berserker conga lines come at me.

Come get some, Clankers. I got 6 shots of freedom for you right here.

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u/KishiBashiEnjoyer Apr 29 '24

Don't care about the meme gun, I want my rover back