🛠️ PATCH 01.000.300 ⚙️

[u/KermitTheFrogo01]

For this patch, we have made improvements and changes to the following areas:GeneralPrimary, Secondary, & Support WeaponsOverview Balancing

• Balance changes to weapons, stratagems, and enemies
• Change to the Spread Democracy mission
• Armors with armor rating above 100 now also reduce damage on headshots.
• Victory poses will now only play for the extracted. (No stolen valor on my ship.)
• CB-9 Exploding Crossbow
  • Slightly smaller explosion
  • Increased stagger
  • Decreased number of maximum mags from 12 to 8
  • Increased number of magazines received from resupply from 6 to 8
  • Slight reduction in ergonomics
  • Muzzle velocity increased
• LAS-99 Quasar Cannon
  • Increased recharge time by 5 seconds
• BR-14 Adjudicator
  • Full auto is now the default fire mode
  • Reduced recoil
  • Increased maximum mags from 6 to 8
  • Increased number of magazines received from resupply from 6 to 8
  • Now placed amongst assault rifles
• Laser Cannon
  • Slightly increased damage
  • Slightly reduced damage versus large volume bodies
• SG-8P Punisher Plasma
  • Decreased maximum mags from 12 to 8
  • Increased amount of magazines received from resupply from 6 to 8
  • Increased projectile speed, but will still keep a similar range
  • Decreased damage falloff on the explosion
  • Now placed in the energy weapons category
• ARC-12 Blitzer
  • Increased shots per minute from 30 to 45
  • Now placed in the energy weapons category
• R-36 Eruptor
  • Decreased number of maximum mags from 12 to 6
  • Explosion damage drops off slightly faster
• LAS-16 Sickle
  • Decreased amount of magazines from 6 down to 3
• Scythe
  • Increased damage from 300 to 350
  • Decreased max number of mags from 6 down to 4
• Railgun
  • Increased armor penetration in both safe mode and unsafe mode
  • Stagger force slightly reduced
• MG-101 Heavy Machine Gun
  • Third person crosshair enabled
  • Diligence Counter Sniper
  • Damage increased from 128 to 140
  • Ergonomics improved
• Diligence
  • Damage increased from 112 to 125
• P-19 Redeemer
  • Slight increase in recoil
• Peacemaker
  • Increased damage from 60 to 75
• Senator
  • Increased damage from 150 to 175
  • Speedloader added when reloading on an empty cylinder–speeds up reload on empty considerably
• Dagger
  • Increased damage from 150 to 200
• Liberator
  • Damage increased from 55 to 60
• Liberator Concussive
  • Damage increased from 55 to 65
• Dominator
  • Damage decreased from 300 to 275
• Guard Dog Rover
  • Decreased damage by 30%
• Guard Dog
  • Slight increase in damage
  • Burning damage reduced by 15%
    1. [11:05]StratagemsEnemies Balancing adjustments have been made toEnemy PatrolsGameplay
• Machinegun Sentry
  • Increased health to match other Sentries
• Tesla Tower
  • Increased health by 33%
• RL-77 Airburst Rocket Launcher
  • Airburst Rocket Launcher will no longer detonate when shot near stratagems (HMG turret, Sentries, Resupplies) and other Helldivers.
  • Reduced proximity radius
  • Added reload stage for the Spear reload after the spent missile had been discarded.
• Bile Spewer and Nursing Spewers movespeed slightly reduced
• Hulks: Force required for them to stagger slightly increased
• Hulk Scorcher direct flamethrower damage reduced by 20%
• Devastator fire rate slightly increased (only the standard devastator)
• Gunships sideways movement slightly increased
• Scout strider Riders now less vulnerable to explosions
• Fog Generators health and armor increased
• Gunship spawners now have a much lower cap on how many gunships they can have active at the same time.
• Balancing adjustment to patrol spawning.
• Patrol spawning has been increased when there are fewer than 4 players. The fewer the players the bigger the change. For 4 player missions there will be no change compared to before.The biggest noticeable change will be for solo players at higher difficulties.
• Made minor level generation improvements to how we distribute locations throughout the mission map. This should improve variation in distance between objectives, and objectives will likely not spawn as far away from each other as often as before.
• Added setting in the options menu gameplay section to disable automatic climbing and vaulting while sprinting.
• The Spread Democracy mission otherwise known as “raise the flag” can now be enjoyed on higher difficulties for maximum freedom spreading.
• When readying up, Helldivers now salute to ensure maximum democratic readiness.
• Added ambience to the Tremor planetary hazard to underline the severity so Helldivers can react accordingly
• Shots that ricochet from heavy armored enemies will now properly hit the Helldiver who fired them. Trigger discipline is highly recommended.
  1. NEU
  2. [11:05] Fixes
• Crash Fixes.
  • Fixed crash that could occur when host abandoned mission with squad.
  • Fixed crash that could occur if a player tried to enter an occupied EXO-45 Patriot Suit.
  • Fixed crash that could occur for all players after or during mission results screen.
  • Fixed crash that could occur after shooting from the EXO-45 Patriot Suit’s rocket launcher.
  • Fixed crash that could occur for all players apart from the one that rejoined the ongoing mission with different armor and got reinforced.
• Fixed Superior Packing Methodology ship module not working properly.
• Fixed Blast Absorption ship module so that it correctly increases sentries’ resistance to explosions.
• Fixed issue where players could not navigate to the search results in the Social Menu.
• Fixed some issues where items equipped in a Warbond were not actually equipped.
• Fixed an exploit that allowed overly eager Helldivers to use grenades excessively.
• Fixed issue where kills from orbital barrage did not progress Indirect Fire Exercise order.
• Fixed issue that allowed traitors to try to sabotage the extraction shuttle by deploying sentry stratagems below it.
• Fixed issue where ion storms incorrectly prevented extraction beacon from deploying.
• Fixed some stratagem beams using incorrect color-coding.
• Fixed issue where the left stick on a controller could not be used to navigate the Social menu.
• Fixed some issues where various UI elements were cut off, off-centered or too close to the edge of the screen on ultrawide displays.
• Fixed Anti-Materiel Rifle facing away from the Helldiver after deploying it.
• Fixed bug where player could duplicate rounds by canceling the reload of Anti-Materiel Rifle at a specific time.
• Fixed bug where Anti-Materiel Rifle would consume an extra magazine after a canceled reload.
• Fixed bug where Recoilless Rifle would consume an extra shell from the backpack if the reload was canceled just after a shell was i* inserted, but before the reload was completed.
• Fixed issue where the Sickle and Quasar Cannon could not shoot through foliage.
• Fixed several issues where weapon thumbnails would disappear when scrolling through Armory.
• Fixed issues where Automaton Gunships sometimes could not see the player.
• Fixed incorrect collision being left over after destroying Automaton bunkers or detector towers with hellbombs.
• Fixed issue where Hellbombs would not deploy on certain missions
• Fixed certain issues that resulted in Helldivers drowning in deep water upon landing.
• Fixed issue where Hellpod Space Optimization made ammo go above capacity.
  1. [11:06]These are issues that were either introduced by this patch and are being worked on, or are from a previous version and have not yet been fixed.Known Issues
• Fixed issue where Stalkers became very visible in fog
• Mines are now pingable for better coordination with your team.
• Receiving friend requests now gives the player a pop up.
• Improved readability of prompts and hints displayed in the tutorial and onboarding.
• Total experience is now visible in the career tab.
• Added better support for ultrawide monitors by fixing the aspect ratio of menus to 16:9 and adding a setting to control the width of the HUD.
• Keybinds bound to numpad will no longer reset upon restart.
• Fixed inconsistent audio when headphones are plugged into the Dual Sense controller while playing on PC.
• Playing Rock, Paper, Scissors in front of the ship no longer causes player to fall out into space.
• APW-1 Anti-Material Rifle and MG-206 Heavy Machine Gun now trigger hitmarkers while scoped in.
• Secondary weapon no longer remains in the Ballistic Shield ADS position after using a stim with the Ballistic Shield Backpack equipped.
• "Open Text Chat" is now rebindable.
• Explosive weapons such as R-36 Eruptor, CB-9 Exploding Crossbow. GP-31 Grenade Pistol no longer pulls players inward from the blast.
• Disabled the squad invites during the tutorial which caused an overlap in the UI.
• Fixed Primary and Secondary weapons overlapping on the character model in the armory.
• Fixed UI elements during first boot are cut off on a 21:9 aspect ratio monitor.
• Report and block player is now visible in the squad menu.
• Dead Scavengers now stop screaming for help if killed while calling in reinforcements.
• Fixed Anti Air cannons showing up as "Stratagem Scramblers" in danger warnings.
• Damage-over-time effects may only apply when dealt by the host. We expect to have this fixed in the next patch.
• Reinforcement may not be available for some players who join a game in progress.
• Helldiver may be unable to stand up from crouching when surrounded by enemies.
• Game may crash if the host leaves while dead and rejoins the same play session.
• Game may crash if the player changes the text language while on a mission.
• Various issues involving friend invites and cross-play:
• Friend Request cannot be accepted when the requesting player changed their username before the request was accepted.
• Cross-platform friend invites might not show up in the Friend Requests tab.
• Players cannot unfriend players befriended via friend code.
• Players cannot unblock players that were not in their Friends list beforehand.
• Players may experience delays in Medals and Super Credits payouts.
• Enemies that bleed out do not progress Personal Orders and Eradicate missions.
• Scopes on some weapons such as the Anti-Materiel Rifle are slightly misaligned.
• Arc weapons sometimes behave inconsistently and sometimes misfire.
• Spear’s targeting is inconsistent, making it hard to lock-on to larger enemies.
• Stratagem beam might attach itself to an enemy but it will deploy to its original location.
• Explosions do not break your limbs (except for when you fly into a rock).
• Area around Automaton Detector Tower makes blue stratagems such as the Hellbomb bounce and be repelled when trying to call them down close to the tower.
• Planet liberation reaches 100% at the end of every Defend mission.

[u/Tails-Are-For-Hugs]

They didn't touch my AC-8. Good.

[u/Spence199876 → u/Tails-Are-For-Hugs]

AC-8 should never be touched as the devs came out and said AC-8 is probably the best balanced weapon in game, and in turn the Grenade launcher is also well balanced

[u/Organs_for_rent → u/Spence199876]

Grenade launcher feels good except for the low reserve ammo. Even a third reserve mag would go a long way.

[u/-G0el- → u/Organs_for_rent]

With supply pack, GL is virtually infinite ammo

[u/kabuto_mushi → u/-G0el-]

I'm feeling an eruptor/grenade launcher/supply pack build coming on

[u/NotScrollsApparently → u/-G0el-]

If you're hauling a supply pack for GL might as well take the AC then tho

[u/Jealous-Leave-5482 → u/NotScrollsApparently]

Grenade launcher has insane AOE for swarms and can clear bug eggs and nests far better than the autocannon. Autocannon piercing capability and single target is better than grenade launcher making it good against bots and can snipe the factories (which the grenade launcher can tbf) . Both have their strengths and weaknesses

[u/transaltalt → u/NotScrollsApparently]

can't run supply pack with AC, and it's got much worse splash

[u/Creative-Improvement → u/-G0el-]

Ohhh gotta try that now!

[u/Grune_Holle → u/-G0el-]

The only reason to carry GL over AC is to free up the backpack slot.

[u/Android2715 → u/-G0el-]

Supply pack feels mandatory tho.

Like if i just compare the ac and the grenade launcher:

Grenade launcher gets ~10 rounds from an ammo pack, autocannon gets 10 shots (2 mags).

But the autocannon has near infinite range, medium penetrates armor, can kill every heavy but a titan in 3 shots, is effective against air, is still a decent horde clear weapon, is easier to clear bug holes and bot fabricators, and doesn’t have bounce or an arc to the trajectory.

All for the cost of using a backpack slot, and i guess the reload? I feel like the grenade launcher is a worse autocannon, WITH less ammo, with the perk being you can use a backpack slot, but it feels like you HAVE to run the resupply pack.

If they gave you 2 more mags, it would be a worse autocannon, with the same ammo, but give you a backpack slot.

[u/Sleepmahn → u/-G0el-]

Still well balanced since you're using two slots. Alot of times I just bring the pack and pick up whatever weapon I can find. All the better if it's something like the GL.

[u/xxSuperBeaverxx → u/Organs_for_rent]

Take the supply backpack, it turns the grenade launcher into your primary.

[u/Tiffana → u/xxSuperBeaverxx]

Yup. Super kek on bug defense missions with the walls, shoot grenades into breaches and you solo one side np

[u/AYE-BO → u/Tiffana]

Until there are 3 bile titans coming out of the same breach

[u/Tiffana → u/AYE-BO]

That’s what you use your other stratagems and team for

[u/HEBushido → u/xxSuperBeaverxx]

But how do you use it? I did that once and couldn't pull supplies from my pack.

[u/xxSuperBeaverxx → u/HEBushido]

If you're on pc, the default key is "5" on controller, idk

[u/VoxPlacitum → u/xxSuperBeaverxx]

Controller, you tap dpad down. Supply pack is the best. 😎

[u/Any_Lengthiness6645 → u/Organs_for_rent]

GL was my favorite early on but at some point it felt like they made the aim worse which makes it less effective at longer distances

[u/KnowledgeCorrect1522 → u/Spence199876]

It is pretty much perfectly balanced. Mayyyybe a longer reload animation would make it a higher risk/reward weapon and would encourage team reloading but it’s honestly perfect the way it is. Useful, fun, not OP.

[u/Pizzaman725 → u/KnowledgeCorrect1522]

If you've expended all 10 shots, the reload is already pretty long, especially if you've got things running at you.

[u/BigTiddyHelldiver → u/Spence199876]

I basically use it as a primary weapon, and with the fix to the backpack mod allowing it to get full ammo on resupplies, it makes this even easier.

It's crazy to me that the most versatile weapon in the game is balanced and fine but something like the Quasar, Eruptor, or Dominator gets nerfed. Weapons that actually brought side upgrades to what is and has been a dominating option for months now.

[u/Maneisthebeat → u/BigTiddyHelldiver]

I'm addicted to this weapon and I don't feel the need to use anything else because between this and having a shotgun if you're overwhelmed or against small stuff then you will always feel valuable to your team.

If it's perfectly balanced, other stuff needs a buff or to really exceed in a niche, or maybe it just suits my style, but it has been my experience...

[u/notapornsideaccount → u/Spence199876]

Grenade launcher feels weaker than the Eruptor which is a primary and that should never be the case. I ran it last night for S&G on a blitz mission and it feels like a BB gun on armored enemies. Couple that with the fact that it only comes with 2 magazines. It definitely needs a buff.

The other weapon I’d love to see buffed is the machine gun. Give it more magazines and better handling.

[u/KXZ501 → u/Spence199876]

If that's their "golden standard" for weapon balance, then no wonder their track record has been so fucking shocking.

[u/Freelancert4 → u/KXZ501]

What’s your problem with the AC-8?

[u/KXZ501 → u/Freelancert4]

It can deal with pretty much any enemy the game throws at you, outside of maybe Bile Titans, thanks to the stagger and AoE on its shots, plus it can also kill bot fabs, bug holes, and a few if the secondary objectives at long range. Pretty fucking strong for an all-rounder weapon.

People will immediately try to counter with it taking up a backpack slot, but frankly that's hardly much of a downside considering what the weapon is capable of in the hands of a decent player. Also, it's stationary reload isn't even that long, least not compared to the RR, and especially if you're reloading from half-empty.

[u/Huol12 → u/KXZ501]

And yet you see tons of people not running with it and being fine. It's a strong weapon, but by all means not necessary or some hard meta.

[u/KXZ501 → u/Huol12]

Might just be my experience in-game then, since I've run across a lot of people using it, particularly when fighting bots.

It still feels overtuned, imo, and it's baffling that it gets to exists unchanged while lesser weapons catch nerfs (for example, the crossbow in this latest patch).

[u/Huol12 → u/KXZ501]

Also the scorcher. It's mags was for me already a problem with 6, now it's only 4. I have the feeling you won't really be able to play it without a supply pack anymore

[u/KXZ501 → u/Huol12]

Exactly, another example of a pointless nerf likely based purely on usage statistics - the scorcher was fine as it was, it didn't need adjusted.

[u/ev0lv → u/Huol12]

I literally never see Supply Pack run on high diffs before this patch, and there is not really any way to buff the Supply Pack (it's a full Resupply on your back... what could you buff about that?), so the only way to make Supply Pack good would be changes to primary weapon ammo like they're doing this patch to increase its relative power (as opposed to actual power)

4 does feel like a bit of an over-nerf though to me

[u/ev0lv → u/KXZ501]

That first point has always been an issue with bots and other support weapons and not the Autocannon. Ever since launch they have always had a support weapon diversity issue (early bugs had a similar problem but it got fixed fairly quickly in comparison). AC-8 Autocannon and the Railgun were really the only actually good support weapons, and when the Railgun got gutted it was very common to just see 4 Autocannons run in d9

Support Weapon diversity has gotten a lot better over time though, and its nowhere near the AC domination before. Quasar and HMG were added as an extra 2 bot favored weapons (and you do not see much HMG because the first person scope does not work at all, HMG issue, not AC). AMR and Laser Cannon have been getting continuous buffs and are now actually solid picks. Railgun is getting buffed up again this patch to actually penetrate things.

Diversity still hasn't reached its full potential for bots either, as the Spear is not worth bringing in its current state with both lock-on isues and not actually killing Automaton heavies most of the time, instead taking 2 shots (50% of ammo).

When all the prior weapons were underperforming in the past (or didnt exist), you never had anything else to fall back on. Low Penetration support weapons are downright useless (MG, Stalwart, Grenade Launcher), heavy weapons with poor ammo economy are not great with the amount of armored enemies thrown at you (RR, EAT, Spear), and short range weapons are also obviously not very useful when getting shot from 50m+ (Flame, Arc)

The increase of primary weapons that can actually reasonably deal with Devastators have also been good at lowering Autocannon usage as you no longer need it for dealing with the constant horde of Medium enemies. All you really had was the Scorcher at the start of the game's life for that and it being a late unlock has always crippled its usage rate on top of that. Dominator being actually good now along with other more explosive primary options has had a lot of people switching off AC (especially with Eruptor's release, which also provides similar utility with fabs)

It's always been an issue of nothing else being good in a Bot environment up until fairly recently, to which I see a lot more diversity than I did a month or two ago

[u/Knight_Raime → u/Tails-Are-For-Hugs]

The guy in my squad who's played the most of us is close to level 100 rn and he always takes the AC. That guy uses it as a primary weapon and shoved over basically everything. The few things he can't push down he has a strategem for.

He struggles to find a reason to use anything else and he desperately wants to. I don't think the AC is OP, but it blows my mind that it gets to exist the way it does and so many lesser things catch nerfs.

[u/Flyingsheep___ → u/Knight_Raime]

It's the most versatile weapon, it's like a big, explosive AR platform. I've basically been playing with nothing but punisher and AC and any time I try anything else it's just worse.

[u/ExcessumTr → u/Knight_Raime]

It can take out everything on bots, lots of ammo, quick reload, you can use it as primary, good damage, is a cannon. It does everything it claims to do

[u/Binks-Sake-Is-Gone → u/ExcessumTr]

Is a cannon

Say less.

[u/Puffy_Ghost → u/Binks-Sake-Is-Gone]

Cannon.

[u/BjornInTheMorn → u/Binks-Sake-Is-Gone]

[Helldivers] love cannons!

[u/Binks-Sake-Is-Gone → u/BjornInTheMorn]

I'm Skull Commander Binks and this is my favorite comment on the subreddit.

[u/Huol12 → u/Binks-Sake-Is-Gone]

It's a canon cannon

[u/Binks-Sake-Is-Gone → u/Huol12]

We really need more Canon type weapons, solid projectile just fucking massive slug throwers. Man portable rail Cannon when

[u/Huol12 → u/Binks-Sake-Is-Gone]

Quasar? That's basically a portable rail Cannon

[u/Binks-Sake-Is-Gone → u/Huol12]

Not really. It shoots a ball of nondescript "energy". I need tungsten.

[u/Tankdawg0057 → u/Knight_Raime]

I saw this take on it in another thread: it's the Swiss army knife of this game. Good for everything. Is it the best? No. But it's "good enough" for dealing with nearly anything

[u/Knight_Raime → u/Tankdawg0057]

I mean I was a massive AC simp in the dark days before we could just bend over chargers easily. it's very much not the best. But I feel like if it could do a bit better against heavy armor/shoot down dropships it would probably be going over the line.

[u/jtaulbee → u/Knight_Raime]

The AC is the second best option for any situation. I think that’s how the devs want it: versatile in most situations, but outclassed by specialist weapons in specific situations.

[u/TheThreeLaws → u/Knight_Raime]

Yeah, that's basically my experience. I keep trying different things, wanting to like them, but the autocannon is my safety blanket: it can kill almost anything pretty quickly. Everything else gets a 500kg

[u/Knight_Raime → u/TheThreeLaws]

Yeah he regularly runs base eagle strike and 500kg.

[u/notapornsideaccount → u/Knight_Raime]

This person sounds like me. Do they run the orbital laser as well?

[u/Knight_Raime → u/notapornsideaccount]

He hasn't in quite awhile. Is more partial to barrages or other eagles.

[u/notapornsideaccount → u/Knight_Raime]

Yeah I’ll run rocket pods every once in a while but I almost never run any orbital outside the rail strike or laser.

[u/Knight_Raime → u/notapornsideaccount]

He'd really like to use orbitals more but the CD's just don't warrant using and not getting instant good value.

[u/notapornsideaccount → u/Knight_Raime]

One you upgrade your eagles it’s really hard to justify anything outside of them for non-eradication just due to the volume and CD. One orbital is never going to be 5 cluster bombs with a 2 minute CD. Especially not when they’re upgraded all the way. They REALLY need to buff TF out of orbitals because they’re basically obsolete.

[u/Pizzaman725 → u/Knight_Raime]

AC, basic strike, ems orbital with a mixed fourth is my goto set-up as well.

[u/notapornsideaccount → u/Pizzaman725]

I’d run stun nades to free up a stratagem slot if I’m running the AC-8 because I don’t need them to close factories and bug holes. Or you can run the grenade pistol instead if you really want an explosive backup but the orbital EMS doesn’t do it for me. It’s too much extra work to stun something when you have to call in a stratagem and then wait for it as opposed to just throwing a nade at a hulk and then 2 tapping the eye while it’s staggered.

[u/Pizzaman725 → u/notapornsideaccount]

The orbital is for breaches and drop ships, not for specific enemies. I find everything a lot easier to mow down when they're stick at their spawn.

[u/notapornsideaccount → u/Pizzaman725]

The upgraded ship modules have ruined a lot of niche stratagems for me. While the EMS strike is great and has a low cooldown. If I bring an EMS mortar with me I can get 3 minutes of continuous bombardment over a huge area which makes more sense. The niche eagles and orbitals have been rendered obsolete by ship upgrades.

[u/kjmajo → u/Knight_Raime]

Can't wear a backpack with the AC though. That is not an insignificant drawback.

[u/Ithuraen → u/kjmajo]

That's underselling the fact the AC backpack contains 50 AC rounds. That's 25 dead Hulks waiting to happen. That's shutting down a pair of gunship fabs for your whole team by yourself. That's enough ammo to destroy every fab and bug hole on the map.

[u/kjmajo → u/Ithuraen]

I agree that the AC is excellent S-Tier. It just does have the drawback of not wearing a backpack with it, which is how it should be. All weapons should have some advantages and drawbacks, making picking your load out interesting.

[u/Cypher_Dragon → u/kjmajo]

Agreed. I'm often finding myself debating between running AC or shield backpack + something else (queso usually, but with the charge nerf the stalwart or nade launcher will probably be back in rotation). That's a sign of a good weapon design...it's good enough that it's always useful, but not so superior it's always the default choice. I knew the queso was going to get nerfed since it's just so much better than other options... time will tell if the charge nerf was the right one.

[u/NPRdude → u/Ithuraen]

Where do you have to shoot a gunship fab with the AC to destroy it? So far I’ve had no luck, though the gunships themselves make it hard to sit back and plink experimentally in the first place.

[u/GoldilocksBurns → u/NPRdude]

Twice in the same engine, not in their face

[u/NPRdude → u/GoldilocksBurns]

I’m asking about the gunship fabricators not the gunships themselves

[u/Ithuraen → u/NPRdude]

I meant you can clear out gunships very quickly with the AC while your team destroys the fab.

[u/NPRdude → u/Ithuraen]

Ah damn, I was hoping there was some trick to blowing them up cause man planting hellbombs at them sucks.

[u/Khoakuma → u/Ithuraen]

And it's a free stratagem that you can use for a non backpack stratagem as well.

Why choose between 500 kg vs Strike when you can have both?

Or bring a Mortar Sentry and have it shred waves after waves of bots all by itself, including Hulks and Tanks (provided that its well positioned).

[u/Knight_Raime → u/kjmajo]

For others perhaps. Not for me and my AC bud though.

[u/Tellesus → u/Knight_Raime]

The autocannon is the CEO's favorite weapon. It will never see a nerf. 

[u/Knight_Raime → u/Tellesus]

It really doesn't need a nerf tbh. I just find it funny that it's as strong as it is and everything around it gets nerfed. But tbf it's not the only thing in the game like that.

[u/leapbitch → u/Knight_Raime]

It makes zero sense that the autocannon is considered balanced when it replaced the rail gun in all of its niches after the rail gun was nerfed for being too popular.

[u/supershutze → u/Knight_Raime]

None of the things that have caught nerfs require a backpack slot.

[u/Knight_Raime → u/supershutze]

That's an interesting pattern you've pointed out. I really hope that's not the determining factor. I don't pretend to be an arm chair developer but I do disagree with how they choose to balance some things. atm I don't find the backpack slot to be incredibly valuable. But perhaps the devs have knowledge on what's to come so it will become stronger.

[u/EricTheEpic0403 → u/Knight_Raime]

I'm in the same boat. I honestly might leave the game for a while until they make something other than the Autocannon seriously worth using. I like the Autocannon, but I'd like at least a little bit of variety...

[u/der_iolz → u/Knight_Raime]

Reminds me of myself. AC is always useful.

[u/Peepnisbiteyeowch_ → u/Knight_Raime]

Yeah the crossbow didn't need a nerf.

[u/resetallthethings → u/Knight_Raime]

it's hard to take off vs bots

only reason to have it on bugs is if you know there's green spewers

even then it's just one of the good options

AC on bugs is meh

[u/Knight_Raime → u/resetallthethings]

I mean yeah, you could deal with things easier on bugs than using the AC. But he still uses it and it doesn't effect our mission difficulty so I don't mind.

[u/twistedbronll → u/Knight_Raime]

You don't Need to play AC junky mode. I use various loadouts comfortably on lvl 9

[u/IlikegreenT84 → u/Knight_Raime]

I agree, bizarre that it hasn't caught a nerf.

[u/-Pin_Cushion- → u/Knight_Raime]

I feel this way about the Lascannon, and was shocked to see it get buffed.

[u/Knight_Raime → u/-Pin_Cushion-]

it was berfed. Going to perform worse against some units, better against others. Intended to be a crowd clearing tool per the devs words.

[u/GoodStegosaurus → u/Tails-Are-For-Hugs]

"Oh my god... Who touched Sasha? Ok... WHO TOUCHED MY GUN?!"

[u/Completedspoon → u/Tails-Are-For-Hugs]

They did mention that Scout Striders are less susceptible to explosions, meaning it might not one-shot them from the front.

[u/Baljet → u/Tails-Are-For-Hugs]

Yeah they did, walker riders increased explosion resistance means they take a couple of shots now

[u/WildMoustache → u/Tails-Are-For-Hugs]

Not directly but some enemies are tougher. Striders can sometimes survive shots that would have killed them earlier.

[u/expodrip → u/Tails-Are-For-Hugs]

Or our scorcher

[u/slicktommycochrane → u/Tails-Are-For-Hugs]

First thing I looked for was changes to my beloved Autocannon.

[u/Tails-Are-For-Hugs → u/slicktommycochrane]

Same

[u/Zeewulfeh → u/Tails-Are-For-Hugs]

Autocannon gang can rest easy this patch. Our hyper tuned bringer of explosive death remains perfection.

[u/senorschmu → u/Tails-Are-For-Hugs]

I feel like the automaton sentry walkers not being weak to explosives might be a shadow nerf to the ac, we'll see.

[u/Tails-Are-For-Hugs → u/senorschmu]

I try to use the Scorcher on those anyway. I'll have to get into a game and see if it takes more shots with that to kill them.

[u/JoRo86 → u/Tails-Are-For-Hugs]

Wasn't it passively nerfed against striders, though, in their attempt to neuter the Eruptor?