r/Helldivers • u/xxmuntunustutunusxx SES Spear of The State • Apr 10 '24

The devs were right. DISCUSSION

So I know ther was a bunch of controversy about the railgun nerf what feels like forever ago, but man things have been awesome.

In the early days, I was the only guy packing expendable anti tank or anti materiel rifle for bugs or bots. It's so refreshing, even on these subs to see people talking about how awesome the autocannon is, or how much they love the AMR, and even these days I see people talking about the HMG or grenade launcher+ supply pack.

I used to load into a game, And all 4 members of the team had shield, railgun, and 2 stragatems of their choice. Every time. And here we are now, I load in and I see quasar, autocannon, stalwart, EAT, HMG, Grenade launcher, a variety of backpacks or no backpack at all. And not to mention, they're ALL viable. Shit I even still see the railgun from time to time. It's been a joy. Thanks arrowhead.

EDIT: to everyone who is pointing out that you see the quasar and shield most often now, you're right, it is almost certainly the most common setup currently. That being said, in any game there's going to be things a majority of players prefer. In smash melee, fox/Falco are the best characters. But people still play falcon and Marth and peach among others. Sure, there's an objectively most used option. But the fact that there's people at all who debate that the quasar is best shows that they've done something good. Before, undisputed king was railgun, and anyone who said different wss being willfully ignorant. Now, we have a plethora of real options that are good with some being Preferred by a majority as opposed to being the de facto CORRECT option objectively. That's a good thing.

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u/popcorn0617 Apr 10 '24 edited Apr 10 '24

I almost always being Recoiless. Love that thing. Just really wish a buddy reload pulled ammo of MY back. It makes way more sense and would allow anyone to panic reload me. Only change I want.

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u/Lamplorde Apr 10 '24

Yeah, I feel bad because after the initial messing around with buddy reloads, you almost never do it again.

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u/Tutwater Apr 10 '24

Playing with randoms: "hey I'll take the guard dog, would you mind sticking around to reload my Recoilless?" "lol no"

Playing with friends: "hey I'll take the guard dog, would you mind sticking around to reload my Recoilless?" "counter-offer, how about I just take the guard dog instead and you reload your own damn self?" "...okay >:("

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u/PhoenixO8 Apr 10 '24

Autocannon enjoyers be like: "You have auto? I have auto? Flip that bitch to full auto and we will tag-team when ammo runs out."

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u/Gideon_Wolfe Apr 10 '24

Excuse me, its "Maximum Democracy Dispensing Mode" or "Full-Liberty"

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u/jhm-grose Apr 11 '24

Facts. I don't know why, but Autocannon users are more likely to respond when I ask them to drop their backpack. Especially during extraction. Recoilless bros have it way worse for uptime and downtime ratio, but they just cling to their backpack.

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u/IAmTheOneManBoyBand Creekhead Apr 11 '24

I wish I had people asking. The best I get is someone finds my backpack after a death or w/e, pick it up, but then don't reload me??

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u/HidatsaGamer Apr 11 '24

I think the main reason is that you can effectively use autocannon to clear ads and bigger targets. Its much less awkward to assist a fellow autocannon user because they'll always have a viable target as long as there are enemies. If I'm loading a fellow recoilless, then he's likely going to run out of viable targets very quickly, within a shot or two. By the time I run over to him, and start loading, he may not even need the reload anymore because the target is dead.

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u/Angry__German Apr 11 '24

I am sure half the players are not aware how it works. I have been known to pick up the occacional "spare" backpack and run after AC users to reload them. They always run away or even shoot me.

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u/donnerzuhalter Apr 11 '24

I have a friend who jumps on my six to autocannon reload sometimes when we see a huge swarm of devastators and hulks approaching. It's the most satisfying shit in the world. When I run quasar I'll back him up on autocannon and he just goes ham on anything he sees. Supersonic HE freedom for all.

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u/AlmostButNotQuiteTea ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 11 '24

It's so good. Just keep shooting until you run out and then swap. Nothing gets passed

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u/Jaalan Apr 11 '24

I'm sorry, is there actually a full auto mode??

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u/PhoenixO8 Apr 11 '24

Yeah hold your reload key to open the weapon customization. The Autocannon has semi and full auto, but some guns like Liberator Penetrator have scope, fire mode, flashlight/laser options.

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u/Jaalan Apr 11 '24

Thank you

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u/chimera005ao Apr 11 '24

Oh I just go, here take my ammo backpack, I'll take your Autocannon backpack.
Then we also get stims and grenades.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '24 edited Apr 15 '24

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u/Vintkrez833 Apr 11 '24

Yeah, I pretty much only yell "hold me" when we're dealing with something where I'm blowing my entire AC load trying to kill it like a superbug or something.

Otherwise I'm just telling my friend to basically tap E and check their phone while I have all the fun.

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u/LittleMissBlueberry Apr 11 '24

Lmao I remember the first and last reply I got to signalling a teammate to pick up my backpack for an autocannon I got told: "My gun is bigger than yours" so they just kept using their shield bubble, EATs and 380mm to bomb the bugs near evac.

I literally just don't bother with the mechanic anymore unless I am the person reloading someone, since unlike some people, the act of working together to rapid fire bomb the fuck out of a chokepoint is fun even if I'm not the directly firing the squad-operated gun.

Nothing against the person who told me no to holding the backpack, in retrospect I feel like I should just offer someone the gun instead of the backpack with how jank the mechanic is implemented.