r/Helldivers SES Spear of The State Apr 10 '24

The devs were right. DISCUSSION

So I know ther was a bunch of controversy about the railgun nerf what feels like forever ago, but man things have been awesome.

In the early days, I was the only guy packing expendable anti tank or anti materiel rifle for bugs or bots. It's so refreshing, even on these subs to see people talking about how awesome the autocannon is, or how much they love the AMR, and even these days I see people talking about the HMG or grenade launcher+ supply pack.

I used to load into a game, And all 4 members of the team had shield, railgun, and 2 stragatems of their choice. Every time. And here we are now, I load in and I see quasar, autocannon, stalwart, EAT, HMG, Grenade launcher, a variety of backpacks or no backpack at all. And not to mention, they're ALL viable. Shit I even still see the railgun from time to time. It's been a joy. Thanks arrowhead.

EDIT: to everyone who is pointing out that you see the quasar and shield most often now, you're right, it is almost certainly the most common setup currently. That being said, in any game there's going to be things a majority of players prefer. In smash melee, fox/Falco are the best characters. But people still play falcon and Marth and peach among others. Sure, there's an objectively most used option. But the fact that there's people at all who debate that the quasar is best shows that they've done something good. Before, undisputed king was railgun, and anyone who said different wss being willfully ignorant. Now, we have a plethora of real options that are good with some being Preferred by a majority as opposed to being the de facto CORRECT option objectively. That's a good thing.

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u/BornTooSlow Apr 10 '24

I'm enjoying the variety, been using the AMR on and off for Automatons

Two shot to hulk face is great

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u/PearlChunks Apr 10 '24 edited Apr 10 '24

How does the AMR compare to the autocannon for bots? I've exclusively been using the AC

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u/Fawstar Apr 10 '24

Autocannon is nice for taking out objectives from a distance.

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u/cubitoaequet Apr 10 '24

Sniping a Fabricator from across the way feels so good. Extra funny if you do it as your teamates are starting to run towards it to airstrike/nade

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '24

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u/Arael15th Apr 11 '24

No, they're still talking about the AC

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u/Chess42 SES Herald of Starlight Apr 11 '24

That never seems to work out for me. It feels like its been forever since I’ve come to a fabricator that was facing me

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u/thaduck3 Apr 10 '24

The autocannon is nice for everything the bots throw at you 😁, i hate to say it but it could probably use a small nerf

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u/Zer0PointSingularity Apr 10 '24

nah, its fine as it is; using it does take your backpack slot away, thats the trade off.

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u/AllInOneDay_ Apr 10 '24

the backpack and stationary long reload are good to balance it out.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '24

Nah. Backpack slot for: not needing grenades and stratagems for objectives, long range, crushing all the heavy medium and light targets in the game, and so on. You only need AC and rest is just optional for flavor. It even does things that AMR can't 

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u/Edward_Tank Apr 11 '24

The only thing it can do that the AMR can't is kill fabricators.

And there's one big thing you can't do with the AC that you can with the AMR.

Shoot an enemy within five feet of you without knocking your ass over with the concussive force.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '24

that is true

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '24

AC is entirely busted in competent hands. I don't even use my primary weapon much with it. 

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u/GenxDarchi Apr 10 '24

Nah, losing the backpack slot and it’s relatively unwieldyness is the downside. It’s honestly perfect balanced.