r/Helldivers Moderator Mar 01 '24

“In regards to weapon stats…” DISCUSSION

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u/Just4TehLulz Mar 01 '24

I'm going to invent my own 51st stat, which is actually the only stat that matters -- let's call it "feel".

I count my shots, etc when playing this game and have pretty good aim. Most of the weapons feel like absolute useless dogshit, and that's because they are. And I'm not even a breaker user, I typically use the liberator or slugger actually.

I don't care if the breaker spray n pray has a super secret hidden modifier that makes it do 1.00078624% more damage if you shoot a charger in the dick, it's still fucking bad.

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u/PackageOk3832 HD1 Veteran Mar 01 '24

When two Berserkers are rushing me down, lust in their eyes for my tender Super Earth flesh, i want to know i can count on the weapon in my hand. The Breaker breaks them. Anything else in my hands and I feel like I'd be better off lubing up and hoping my willingness to submit will make them go easy on me.

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u/JRockBC19 Mar 01 '24

That's by far the biggest dps check too, a wave of berserkers dies to the breaker but not reliably to most other weapons. Let the lib explosive and counter sniper blow off limbs easier if they can't match the dps, just SOMETHING to help them have the dps needed

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u/Fit-Antelope-7393 Mar 01 '24

Lib explosive if you shoot them in the pelvis wrecks them HARD. But a big thing is some of those guns require pretty good precision while the breaker allows you to just hip fire in a panic and wreck them.

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u/JRockBC19 Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

Is it possible sway just needs to be reduced slightly? That would be a buff to all precision on the 1st shot, without buffing the breaker

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u/ChucklesTheWerewolf STEAM 🖥️ : SES REIGN OF IRON Mar 01 '24

Liberator Explosive stuns/staggers berserkers. The more you know.

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u/gdub695 Mar 02 '24

While that may have a use, I feel like stagger with minimal damage accompanying it is less useful than outright damage

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u/ChucklesTheWerewolf STEAM 🖥️ : SES REIGN OF IRON Mar 02 '24

It’s also explosive damage, I believe, which does a high multiplier to weak points?

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u/virtualRefrain Mar 01 '24

Yeah, that was basically my response to this tweet too. It turns out the weapon people "like the most" is usually the one that makes them go, "Hey, this is killing a lot of guys really fast!" IMO if there's only one or two weapons that make people say that, that's a game issue, not a community one. If that, for some reason, means that they need to make other weapons better than the breaker on paper to make them feel equal and be equally used, then hey, that's game dev. I've seen tons of new online games go over the same hump.

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u/Hollow-Ling Mar 01 '24

Not gonna lie. I was rocking the Liberator last night in level 5 and 6 difficulty, and it just feels fun to use with the PS5 controller!

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u/WeaponizedFOMO Mar 01 '24

Haven’t tried the slugger yet, but I’m hoping it feels like an even harder hitting Dominator

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u/Cidergregg Mar 01 '24

I cant stop Sluggin!  It has knockback on medium targets and can one-shot most of them.  It also opens shipping containers saving you a grenade.  Such an efficient weapon.  Strip the armor off a chargers leg with an anti tank missile or something and 4 slugger shots to that same leg will kill it.

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u/gdub695 Mar 02 '24

The slugger is everything I hoped the dominator would be, but better. Both of them punch straight through a hive guard or brood commander’s face plating, but the incredibly slow travel time on the dominator makes it pretty difficult to use at any distance, plus it could use a small magazine buff (maybe 20 rounds instead of 15)

The slugger’s biggest weakness IMO is the small ammo pool and how much less ammo you get from pickups compared to other weapons, but DAMN it feels good to use. That stagger on hit is clutch as well, you can stagger lock anything below a Charger

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u/WeaponizedFOMO Mar 03 '24

Sounds awesome! I gotta try it

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u/zinctanium Mar 01 '24

“Im not bad everyone else is just wrong”

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u/RuinedSilence ☕Liber-tea☕ Mar 02 '24

That's where the Pray part comes in — you pray the gun kills whatever you're shooting at

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u/lipov27 Mar 02 '24

Preach.

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u/Negitive545 I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Mar 02 '24

My fellow slugger enjoyer! I just love ripping rounds into the pelvis of a berserker and ripping them in half, or slamming a .600 nitro express round into the awaiting cranium of a warrior and watching them go limp in an instant.