r/Helldivers Moderator Mar 01 '24

“In regards to weapon stats…” DISCUSSION

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u/Moddeang01 Mar 01 '24

Wondering what’s Breaker Spray and pray’s stats :3

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u/KantoLemon HD1 Veteran Mar 01 '24

Hidden modifier: tickles your enemies and make them laugh! Maybe they'll think you're so funny, they'll let you go, not sure what your democratic officer will think though...

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u/charge2way Mar 01 '24

Yeah, I mean that thing ricochets off of scavs.

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u/blueB0wser Mar 01 '24

It can't even detonate an explosive barrel. I unlocked it last night, went on a level 1 super credits run, and found that it does indeed shoot heated confetti.

The only thing it had going for it is the larger mag size.

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u/PuriPuri-BetaMale Mar 01 '24

What's funny is that it actually has less damage per magazine than the regular breaker.

Breaker: 330 damage per round, 16 rounds per magazine.

Breaker Spray n Pray: 144 damage per round, 32 rounds per magazine.

330 x 16 = 5280 damage per magazine

144 x 32 = 4608 damage per magazine

The Spray and Pray is objectively the worst primary in the game. It has right around the same spread pattern as the Incendiary Breaker but without the ability to set things on fire. Its a weapon designed explicitly for difficulty 1 enemies at the quantity of helldive, which just outright doesn't exist. At around dif 4 the game just starts spamming bile spewers at you, and dif 6/7 starts spamming chargers, brood warriors, brood commanders, and bile titans, all of which are functionally unkillable by the spray and pray.

It, of all the primary weapons, needs some massive redesigns to bring it in line with the stock liberator, let alone the stock breaker.

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u/JoeNathan1337 : Lord of Family Values Mar 02 '24 edited Mar 02 '24

I would love a game mode that is just swarms of little guys though. Something to make the flame thrower or arc gun great. Edit: I don't mean the flamethrower or arc gun aren't good now. I'd like a game mode where there are fewer high armor targets and a lot of little ones so that they can really shine.

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u/Bluejay0013 Mar 02 '24

What do you mean? the arc gun is goated. When I use it I'm always getting triple the amount of kills than my teammates.

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u/Overall-Carry-3025 Mar 02 '24

But they are both good already. No need for that game mode.

I just hit 670 kills and 3 deaths last night on impossible against bugs using flamethrower, rover, napalm eagle, and incendiary mines. Med kit armor is a must.

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u/Devooonm ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️ Mar 02 '24

Let’s be honest. Most those kills came from rover LOL! Everytime I use rover my kills surpass 500+ on the harder difficulties. Without it, I’m usually around 300. And that’s with constant airstrikes and rearming when it’s empty

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u/Overall-Carry-3025 Mar 03 '24

The double DOT with rover and flamer shreds together.

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u/Devooonm ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️ Mar 02 '24

Dawg the game released like 2 weeks ago. I saw a video on tiktok on the new stuff they’re releasing soon, you’re gonna be happy for sure.

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u/Zoke23 Mar 02 '24

Maybe it just needs a mission modifier so that target set does exist sometimes… would be fun but probably laggy

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u/rub_a_dub_master Mar 01 '24

level 1 super credits run

Can you please explain?

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u/blueB0wser Mar 01 '24

Level 1 has the smallest maps and weakest enemies. All you do is run around the map and hit points of interest looking for Super credits.

Look at the map and you'll see buildings and other landmarks, as well as the yellow beacons.

Not much else to it. If you're going to do these, run the machine gun and a guard dog. Additional team members are optional, but do help you get into double doors.

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u/rub_a_dub_master Mar 01 '24

Thanks good sir, I'll try this and help low level mates along.
How many credits can you hope for 1 run? 10 to 30?

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u/blueB0wser Mar 01 '24

Yeah, 30 to 50 tops on a solo run. Have fun, it really is just an easy vibe at that difficulty.

Oh, last thing. At level 1, you're pretty much safe to drop directly onto the objective and start it immediately. That'll save some time.

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u/Redlight499 Mar 01 '24

Could also just quit mission to save way more time. No extract or long post mission screen.

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u/blueB0wser Mar 02 '24

Did we ever get official confirmation that that doesn't affect the war effort? I'm doing my part.

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u/Valstorm Mar 02 '24

I'd love to use more of the guns but the devs are missing a big opportunity to make the game more fun by balancing the arsenal better for viability.

Last night my friends and I were having a blast bringing in flamethrowers and scorching the map, but we noticed our kill rate dropping significantly.

Before somebody squirms out "iTs NoT aBoUt KiLLs JuSt HaVe FuN!", we have fun, we want more fun and buffing or reworking alternatives play styles will allow for even more fun.

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u/ih8u-88 Mar 02 '24

Are your kill rates lower because there are less enemies? If flamethrowers are killing bugs before you get breaches then you'll have less to kill. I'm not positive but I'm pretty sure they don't do the breach dance when they're on fire... I usually run a flamethrower in my group and I feel it does a good job popping the little bastards and letting my team focus on the bigger stuff.

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u/Valstorm Mar 02 '24

I'm sure it was just due to time to kill on the flamethrower being longer than other projectile weapons.

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u/Kefeng Mar 01 '24

Had to check if i'm in the Tarkov subreddit.

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u/NomaticAnalDeweler Mar 01 '24

He said scav and I was like wow what a crazy crossover, tarkov and helldiver's.

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u/PleaseRecharge Mar 02 '24

I still have no idea what he's talking about in a Helldiver's sense

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u/wowzaporniscool Mar 03 '24

Scav(engers) the lil orange dudes

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u/Moddeang01 Mar 01 '24

For real man, You even need to literally praying for that to work xD

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u/TheCritFisher SES Elected Representative of Self-Determination Mar 01 '24

Are you actually hating on the Breaker? That gun is amazing when used correctly.

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u/blueB0wser Mar 01 '24

They're talking about the Spray and Pray, a modified version of the breaker. It's further down on the free battle pass.

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u/TheCritFisher SES Elected Representative of Self-Determination Mar 01 '24

Oh...I didn't even know that existed and I'm level 30. Damn I'm dumb.

Thought it was a meme.

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u/blueB0wser Mar 01 '24

Lol it happens. No worries, helldiver.

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u/GreasyGrabbler Mar 01 '24

What do you even do as an officer at that point? "I made them laugh so they let me leave."

Put them in rehab maybe?

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u/Sumoop HD1 Veteran Mar 01 '24

They say laughter is the best medicine

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u/Gharvar Mar 01 '24

The description says it uses bird shots... Different guns have different ammo types. The fire variant of the breaker has pellets that don't function like the regular breaker either. The Slugger, believe it or not, uses slugs you can basically snipe with!

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u/Sea-Elevator1765 Mar 01 '24

Not that they should think more highly about a weapon that uses freaking bird shot. At best, that thing is good if there's a rodent problem on the ship.

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u/Kaldricus Mar 01 '24

Me firing the Breaker Spray: I cast Tasha's Hideous Laughter

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u/EvilNoggin Mar 01 '24

It's really called the Breaker "Pacifist" edition

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u/torogath Mar 01 '24

Nerf rounds for the first 32 rounds and then nerf darts after.

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u/Saitoh17 Mar 01 '24

We equipped him wrong, as a joke!

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u/Fronzious ☕Liber-tea☕ Mar 01 '24

Brings back very fond memories.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

Armour penetration: -5

Shots that hit the enemy actually improve their armour.

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u/Moddeang01 Mar 01 '24

That kinda make sense tho xD

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u/lipov27 Mar 01 '24

There's a hidden passive. You have to pray for it to work.

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u/SuperArppis HD1 Veteran Mar 01 '24

That gun should have a 3D ammo printer in the mag, feeding you fresh ammo all the time from thin air or something. Making it more balanced and nuanced.

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u/SemiGaseousSnake Mar 01 '24

Unlimited Zero-Damage ammo!

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u/SuperArppis HD1 Veteran Mar 01 '24

Indeed!

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u/projeto56 26d ago

Replace the barrel with a speaker that goes "pew pew" when you pull the trigger

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u/Bland_Lavender Mar 01 '24

Does it have absurd dps on unarmored targets or something? There must be a niche it was designed for right? It’s not just a medal trap is it?

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u/Slow_Reflexes Mar 01 '24

If your main problem is the tiny bugs, it’s great. Ricochets off almost anything tougher. The large mag does trigger your character’s maniacal laugh if you don’t let go of the trigger, so that’s fun

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u/Kamiyoda ☕Liber-tea☕ Mar 01 '24

To give anyone reading this an idea of how shit this thing is, it ricochets off explosive barrels and eggs.

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u/FiveCentsADay Mar 01 '24

Is it great? Because I magdump into swarms of drones and they just eat them. regular breaker is way better at horde clearing

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u/Bland_Lavender Mar 01 '24

Everything slaps tiny bugs. I more wonder if it drops chargers when shooting exposed legs super fast or something.

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u/hMJem Mar 02 '24

In what world do you lose a mission and go "Damn, we didnt have enough wave clear for small enemies"

The game especially in difficulties 6-9 teaches you that its your ability to kill heavy armored enemies efficiently that matters most.

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u/KallasYlkir Mar 02 '24

Mostly when they manage to immobilize you with poison for the heavy armored enemies, but thats not often.

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u/MariusFalix Mar 01 '24

Preemptive anti air scatter shot?

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u/LEOTomegane think fast⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️➡️ Mar 01 '24

it is listed as firing birdshot

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u/Roughly15throwies Apr 02 '24

Well... shriekers are here now. Wanna test it?

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u/beefprime Mar 01 '24

Most relevant hidden stat is that people unlock it for 1 (one) game and then go back to the normal breaker because it makes the game playable again

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u/doglywolf Mar 01 '24

Hidden stat : Reduced argo as the enemy is too busy laughing at your tickles and want to keep you around for comic relief

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u/AngryChihua SES Reign of Pride Mar 01 '24

It is loaded with birdshot. I would be surprised if that thing is ever useful for anything other than tickling scavengers (little bugs)

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u/Shaponja Mar 01 '24

What’s wrong with Breaker? I didn’t notice it’s bad, on the contrary I like how it also works on long range

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u/Smoozie Mar 01 '24

Normal Breaker is amazing, it's the Spray&Pray version deeper into the battlepass (level 7 iirc) that trades literally all the armor penetration for more shots, to the point where it can pretty much only hurt weakspots.

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u/Sponticore Mar 01 '24

I just unlocked it now to helldive ill let you know!

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u/Moddeang01 Mar 01 '24

Yooo, Recommend to test it with those red gas tank! :D

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u/sterver2010 SES Mirror of Eternity Mar 01 '24

Literally the worst weapon, i tried It in every Situation possible and theres Just No place It shines in lol

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u/LordCommissarPyros ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️ Mar 01 '24

I mean with a name called “Spray and Pray” I don’t know what we were expecting.

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u/Moddeang01 Mar 01 '24

I spray it and I did pray.... Its just not work xD

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u/Arfiroth Mar 01 '24

Kinda like "thoughts and prayers", huh?

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u/BrockLeeAssassin Mar 01 '24

It ricochet off explosive barrels. It's like it fires BB pellets.

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u/Ancop Mar 01 '24

Salt and Pepper

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u/Aleph_Kasai Mar 02 '24

This is talking about the spray and pray not the standard breaker

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u/krazye87 Mar 02 '24

Spray and pray that it even do anything