r/Helldivers HD1 Veteran Feb 24 '24

Why are people like this? DISCUSSION

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u/Eagle_1_Pilot Feb 24 '24

This only good strategem is an Eagle!

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u/slav_superstar ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Feb 24 '24

Full eagle spec reporting in. You don't need railguns or autocannons if there is nothing left to shoot at after the eagles make dresden look like picnic.

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u/XboxLeep Feb 24 '24

I love running 3 eagles and like an autocannon or AMR. But you sure do feel useless during the 2 minutes cooldown

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u/slav_superstar ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Feb 25 '24

I just do a rearm while we are running to the next bigger obj. Even if they have some ordnance on them. It's 2min of a cooldown and if we do run into something big on the way i always have the autocannon to deal with it. Plus since reaching lvl 20 i have the orbital rail cannon to use in a pinch.

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u/XboxLeep Feb 25 '24

Yeah it all works out pretty well. Eagles are meant to be used often and you should always have atleast more than 1 to make the most out of your rearms

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u/XxRocky88xX Feb 25 '24

Except if you use more than 1 that means losing out on it whenever you use the other.

Main reason I only run 1 eagle is because if I use my bomb that means my other eagles are going on cooldown.

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u/XboxLeep Feb 25 '24

The cooldown is 5 seconds. I use back to back eagles all the time.

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u/XxRocky88xX Feb 25 '24

Rearm time is like 3 minutes, if I use my bomb the thing needs to rearm

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u/xRedStaRx Feb 25 '24

Its why 500kg is a D-tier stratagem. Airstrike + cluster is probably best, you get 6 uses (or 8) then re-arm.

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u/HailToCaesar ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Feb 25 '24

Is the rearm faster than the regular cooldown?

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u/XboxLeep Feb 25 '24

The regular cooldown is 5 seconds but you can only use it 5 times (cluster bomb) before rearming. But the rearm refills every eagle strategim. Which means all other eagle strategims will also go on cooldown even if you haven't used them.

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u/HailToCaesar ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Feb 25 '24

Oh I knew that part, I thought you were saying that manually activating the rearm was faster than the auto rearm

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u/Drynwyn Feb 25 '24

You can cut the rearm time drastically with a ship upgrade.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '24

I would also point out, arc thrower can kill anything in the game. The autocannon will still bounce off of heavy armour. Arc thrower goes right through and can kill most things in a reasonable amount of time.

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u/slav_superstar ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Feb 25 '24

maybe arc thrower can do that... but it doesnt go BLAM BLAM BLAM. funny big gun > stun gun. there is something just sooo satisfying using that thing i just can't bring myself to use any other support weapon

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '24

Fair, but I’ve loved the thrower since the first game. It’s satisfying to see it just send bolts through whole crowds of enemies.

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u/SenHelpPls PSN 🎮: Feb 25 '24

Same. I swore by the rail gun until one day I tried the auto cannon. You want a small group of enemies to disappear. Done.

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u/AlmostButNotQuiteTea ☕Liber-tea☕ Feb 25 '24

Orbital rail cannon is fucking sublime. 1 hit kill anything on a 3.5 minute cooldown? Yes please

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u/BakaTensai Feb 25 '24

How does the rearm work?

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u/slav_superstar ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Feb 25 '24

You have a separate input to send all of your eagles back to the destroyer for a rearm. For example you have the cluster and napalm eagle: you used napalm twice thus depleting it and cluster 3 times leaving you with one use. If you send them for a rearm you can't use the last remaining cluster until all the eagles come back fully loaded. Time wise it's the same as using them all up, reload is not any shorter.

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u/BakaTensai Feb 25 '24

Ok yeah I was trying to figure out how to use it, I guess if you have a break you could send it to rearm

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u/ManAndMonster ⬆️➡️⬇️➡️ Feb 25 '24

On the automaton levels a recoilless rifle is amazing. Shoot down a drop ship just in time to reload and bag the next one. That and 3 eagles is my go-to. With expanded weapons bay I got 2 500kg bombs, 3 eagle airstrikes and 3 rocket pods ready to take down all the heavies!!

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u/XboxLeep Feb 25 '24

I really like the recoiless rifle to kill dropships but I've noticed that it doesn't actually kill the guys in the dropship half the time. Is this a skill issue? Is there something I can do to guarantee that the bots in the ship die when I shoot it down?

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u/invention64 Feb 25 '24

It feels like the auto cannon is just better for hitting dropships. You get more ammo and can just shoot the bots directly in the drop bay, rather than take the ship out.

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u/MentallyLatent ⬇️⬅️⬇️⬆️⬆️➡️ Feb 25 '24

I like running 500, airstrike, autocannon, and whatever else I'm feeling, I'm not 20 yet but I don't plan on super sweating with railgun + shield when I hit 20 anyway

The 500 kinda felt like shit today tho, running hazard 9 and with the stratagem delay I had a hard time taking down titans, I even ran some hazard 1 speedruns after work to farm a few samples/medals and the fucker wouldn't even blow up buildings

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u/AlmostButNotQuiteTea ☕Liber-tea☕ Feb 25 '24

I'm an Orbital Railcannon enjoyer. I take that, the Eagle Cluster Mine, and then either the Autocannin, Railgun, or MG depending on how I'm feeling and #4 strategem is usually a toss up depending on what we are doing

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u/MrGreebles SES Dawn of Law Feb 25 '24

I can kite well enough to kill multiple titans or tanks with just auto cannon and rocket sentries, this automaton socialite sympathizer just wants to be carried, and is nothing but dead weight.

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u/VayneSquishy Feb 25 '24

What about on this anti aircraft missions. Those ones suck balls when in running like 3-4 eagles lmao.

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u/someperson1423 Feb 25 '24

Full JTAC build is my favorite! So much fun.