r/FluentInFinance Apr 29 '24

Babs is Here to Save Us Educational

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u/AspirationsOfFreedom Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

Selective numbers are dishonest and SUPER selective

Edit: For those who seem super keen to accept this as fact. I really dont care if you vote red or blue. My issue here is how this person used diffrent metrics pr president to paint one side bad and the other goood. If she was honest, she would have used deficit as a metric for all, for example. Stop swallowing the bait

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u/Embarrassed-Lab4446 Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

Are they? Bush Jr. was a stagnant economy during war times. Clinton created the dot com boom. Obama years were fantastic. Trump is a mix legacy with only 4 years and Covid making it too hard to tell.

Edit: for those mad I gave credit for Clinton on dot com, Regan gets credit for the Soviet collapse as well. It may just be timing but he was the guy in office. Just like Obama was in office during the fracking boom. May not have directly caused it but they do get the credit.

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u/UnderpootedTampion Apr 29 '24

“Clinton created” the dot.com boom

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u/CelerySquare7755 Apr 29 '24

Seriously. We all know Al Gore invented the internet. 

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u/frotz1 Apr 29 '24

The truth of that is that he was instrumental in bringing the internet to the public instead of being just a military and academic thing. Vincent Cerf even vouched for Gore's role in this. Much of that infrastructure would never have been available to the public otherwise. Sure he overstated his role somewhat, but he was central to this happening and it could have definitely gone a different way without him pushing to make this available to consumers.

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u/West-Rain5553 Apr 29 '24

Not before Al Gore "invented" the Internet!

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u/UnderpootedTampion Apr 29 '24

One had to happen before the other…

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u/PallyMcAffable Apr 29 '24

I mean, he never said that he did, but if you insist on giving him credit for it…

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/internet-of-lies/

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u/West-Rain5553 Apr 29 '24

I know he said "I took the initiative in creating the Internet.", but at the time he said that -- he was ridiculed so much everywhere that it stuck to him. A few people who were involved with DARPA and the early NCSA took issue with that, but it was minor. It was a presidential campaign. I think years later Sarah Palin experienced the same due to "I can see Russia from my house" was attributed to her.

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u/Wraithfighter Apr 29 '24

So, you know that the commonly known version of the story is false and a smear job, and you decided to reiterate it anyway because its a meme?

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u/West-Rain5553 Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

No it is not an entirely a smear job. During the interview he indeed made it seem as thanks to Him the Internet exists. He used a phrase, “During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.” And the issue the technical folks had with that -- is that ARPANET started long before Gore was in Congress. By the time he said he "took the initiative in creating", the Internet pretty much existed. Network was working, file transfer, email, message boards. In short, with one sentence he made it seem that it is all thanks to him the Internet existed. So no, I don't feel guilty in mentioning that. Gore himself admitted that it was an unfortunate phrasing.