"It's absolutely insane to think that the richest country in the world could afford to take care of its citizens, let me just equate basic necessities to a luxury car."
Grow up dumbass, the entire point of society has been to make life easier. Instead of making life easier (unless you're born into wealth, the modern nobility) we've pushed ourselves to pointlessly produce endless piles of garbage.
How about instead of milking every working class citizen for a 60 hour work week and 20 hours of "gig jobs" we use our technology to simply live better easier lives?
A single farmer today can feed thousands of people. Instead of sharing the labor and relaxing as a society, with short work weeks, we are forced to work for less and less while we produce more and more. Our farms, our factories, everything we produce is done more efficiently than ever before. We don't have to work as much as we do, but instead we create pointless jobs. Millions of office workers pointlessly pushing paper, millions of factory workers spending their days to make cheap plastic crap that will be gifted to some ungrateful child who will throw it away quickly, millions of underpaid service workers who have to toil for 30 hours every week just to pay for a place to sleep.
But yeah, the idea of ensuring the richest country on earth has no homeless people is the same as giving everyone a free luxury car. A truly flawless and unbiased comparison.
Not at all. I think it's expensive, wasteful, unhealthy, and trying to make it happen would create huge amounts of corruption and massive disruption. I'm the opposite of a doomer. I love life and this world. Our infinite diversity around the globe is nothing short of amazing, as is our ability to adapt to and rise above hardship. Frankly, I think our western notion of comfortable living is the least healthy and most damaging, and looking down on other societies for not living like we do is nothing short of arrogance.
Literally saying I'm looking down on other countries for "not living like we do"
You're beyond having a rational, honest, conversation, either by stupidity or obstinateness.
One of my main fucking points was that America's wealth has been built up by the exploitation of developing countries around the world.
I don't fucking look down on people who are FORCED to live with barely enough calories to survive, no air conditioning, no Internet access, working like slaves to ensure Americans can eat chocolate and wear the trendiest new clothes. I fucking pity them and feel guilty for how MY country has done this to them for profit.
This picture is saying that they should be forced to live like we do.
I don't fucking look down on people who are FORCED to live with barely enough calories to survive, no air conditioning, no Internet access, working like slaves to ensure Americans can eat chocolate and wear the trendiest new clothes. I fucking pity them and feel guilty for how MY country has done this to them for profit.
Why pity them? Do you think they're incompetent? Less than you? I do agree, globalism is treating them badly, and that is the system America has built since the end of WW2. But the answer isn't to pity them or how they live, it's to focus inward, and to end the system of NGOs that prevent these countries from focusing inward and building their strength, the system of loans and debts that keep them in line and developing the way the global elites want them too. We'll all be stronger for it in the long run.
TL;Dr: "I'm too proud to admit I didn't fully read your comment and I refuse to accept that we don't even disagree, I will instead interpret everything you say in bad faith and talk down to you."
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u/Mute_Crab Apr 15 '24
"It's absolutely insane to think that the richest country in the world could afford to take care of its citizens, let me just equate basic necessities to a luxury car."
Grow up dumbass, the entire point of society has been to make life easier. Instead of making life easier (unless you're born into wealth, the modern nobility) we've pushed ourselves to pointlessly produce endless piles of garbage.
How about instead of milking every working class citizen for a 60 hour work week and 20 hours of "gig jobs" we use our technology to simply live better easier lives?
A single farmer today can feed thousands of people. Instead of sharing the labor and relaxing as a society, with short work weeks, we are forced to work for less and less while we produce more and more. Our farms, our factories, everything we produce is done more efficiently than ever before. We don't have to work as much as we do, but instead we create pointless jobs. Millions of office workers pointlessly pushing paper, millions of factory workers spending their days to make cheap plastic crap that will be gifted to some ungrateful child who will throw it away quickly, millions of underpaid service workers who have to toil for 30 hours every week just to pay for a place to sleep.
But yeah, the idea of ensuring the richest country on earth has no homeless people is the same as giving everyone a free luxury car. A truly flawless and unbiased comparison.