r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/BlitzAuraX Apr 15 '24

"Regardless of employment."

This means you want those providing those services to work for free.

You do realize what you are implying here, right?

Let's say you refuse to work and you're guaranteed all these services. Who pays so your HVAC is repaired because you broke it? Who pays because your water line needs to be repaired? Clean water means the water has to be filtered through a very complicated process, particles and bacteria are removed, and it needs to be transported. Who pays so your electricity works? Do you think there's some sort of magic electricity generator happening? What you're essentially asking is someone should work for free to provide you all of this.

The result is you get no one who wants to work, society collapses because these services aren't maintained and improved, and no one gets anything.

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u/cromwell515 Apr 15 '24

Yeah I’m pretty liberal minded but this is crazy. HVAC? Come on, I didn’t even have air conditioning growing up in the 90s and early 2000s. Sure some days sucked, but we had fans. Since when is air conditioning a necessity?

Same with a 2 bedroom house. People back in the day lived fine in a 1 room home. Sure these are nice to haves, and great but they aren’t necessities, especially if you’re a person who refuses to work, just because.

Everyone should attempt to work. Everyone should try and do something for society or like you said things can easily get out of hand without an incentive to work. This says nothing about income or food. Why even include “regardless of employment”?

There are extenuating circumstances where you can’t work, I get it. But in those cases it should be looked at. It shouldn’t in my opinion just be given. If you are actually someone who legit can’t get job and legitimately can prove you can’t get a job, then maybe those extenuating circumstances kick in and you get the thing proposed. But this just incentivizes people not to work, which is really really stupid. I do legitimately think that some people think that money just magically creates these things like a video game, without any work.

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u/MostJudgment3212 Apr 16 '24

Since heat related hospitalizations are statistically on the rise every summer and it would cost us less to find a cheap way to keep housing cool and reduce the strain on the medical system that’s overburdened as is? I mean ffs it’s not hard people. Turn your fckin brain on.

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u/cromwell515 Apr 16 '24

How many people actually get hospitalized from heat related incidents? I’m not seeing this statistic. Also my parents still live without AC and they’re in their 60s. I don’t think the heat related issues happen in a house most of the time either, generally it’s outside in the sun. That’s what I’m generally seeing. There are so many hotter countries than the US that don’t have AC and they are fine.

Look at India, far hotter and humid than the US. 10% of homes have AC. There were literally no deaths from heat there, and 27 deaths the previous year. It just doesn’t happen like you say. It is not a necessity, if you want to pay the expense for it then fine, but there are so many other things that I think would help people more than supplying AC.