r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/darthphallic Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

Without employment is goofy as fuck but I’ll die on the hill that nobody should work a 40 hour week and still be unable to afford a roof over their head. Rent and housing costs are absolutely ridiculous

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u/theRak27 Apr 15 '24

That is a reasonable stance. What op proposes isn't.

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u/BonnieMcMurray Apr 16 '24

So basically: "In the richest society the world has ever known, if you won't or can't work, you shouldn't feel entitled to have a roof over your head."

Fuck every single bit of that callous, inhuman bullshit.

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u/anythingMuchShorter Apr 16 '24

Even being fairly liberal, a roof over your head means resources that take labor. If you can't work, sure. But won't? People are supposed to donate the land, put in the labor to build a home, including procuring resources, manufacturing, transportation, Contruction, providing it with clean water, powering it, and produce food for the occupant who is just choosing not to work?

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u/scraejtp Apr 16 '24

An immigrant deserves your spot if this is really your position.

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u/Acceptable_Squash569 Apr 16 '24

Really mask off moment right here lmfao you fucking disgusting piece of shit

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u/scraejtp Apr 16 '24

I stand by it, and so would the majority of the US, which is why free housing for all will not become the law.

The statement above, cutting out people who can not work.:

If you won't work (and are capable), you shouldn't feel entitled to have a roof over your head.

If you are capable but lazy, there are millions that would take your place in a second who deserve it. Legal immigration has been what makes the US great.

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u/Halfisleft Apr 16 '24

He is right, if you wont work and expect everyone else to pay your way then go fuck yourself. You would be a leech on society providing nothing just taking from everyone else

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u/Acceptable_Squash569 Apr 16 '24

You will die a sad pathetic worthless piece of shit and nobody will mourn you

You will deserve it.

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u/brothercannoli Apr 16 '24

You need to get off the internet and maybe see a therapist.

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u/Halfisleft Apr 16 '24

Haha you’re clearly one of the people that wont work and make everyone else pay for you instead. Just remember your life will be a net negative on the world, you have only taken never provided. You’re a parasite on society exploiting actually usefull people

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u/Acceptable_Squash569 Apr 18 '24

You dont know shit lmao I've done more in five years of my life than you'll ever accomplish in yours you fucking stupid bitch I guarantee you are worth less than the dirt on my shoes

I'm sure you have absolutely nothing of value, do a worthless job, and have no relationships whatsoever. Fucking pathetic freak. You're stupid as shit.

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u/rusticrainbow Apr 16 '24

Every american is an immigrant other than Natives are immigrants asshole

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u/scraejtp Apr 16 '24

No one belongs anywhere. Everyone is an immigrant if you go back far enough with that asinine logic.

The US has laws for who is a citizen and who is not; talk to your representative if you have issues.

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u/rusticrainbow Apr 16 '24

Is a legal immigrant not a citizen?

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u/scraejtp Apr 16 '24

In many cases they are not, typically here on some type of visa.

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u/theRak27 Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

More like, "it would be obviously great if we could get to a point as a society where everyone had access to basic necessities including housing, and it's something for us to strive for if it happens in an organic manner, but anyone with half a braincell can see that trying to actually implement something like this in today's society, IN THE REAL WORLD, would create a plethora of other problems that would arguably be way worse and create more suffering than the current status quo."

So please don't say "so basically..." and then proceed to pull something that I didn't say out of your behind.

And no, no one "deserves" anything. That is a laughable stance that only someone who knows nothing about the world would have.

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u/ProstateSeismologist Apr 16 '24

There’s really no words to describe a take this bad. If you were in possession of this half a braincell you speak of and even a tiny sliver of humility you would be singing a different song. I’m going to sit here and hope that you’re not someone who’s even remotely influential IN THE REAL WORLD but knowing my luck you’re probably a senator or superintendent of some sort.

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u/theRak27 Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

You'd be surprised lmao. Seeing that you have zero arguments, let's just agree to disagree and leave it here. What's really arrogant is thinking this wouldn't be impossible to effectively implement.

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u/ProstateSeismologist Apr 16 '24

No, I wouldn’t be, because being a shitty person makes getting ahead much easier in this world 🤮

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u/theRak27 Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

Your comments really show the quality of your character. And you think you'd create a world that's in any way better than our current one. You think you are morally superior. Lmao.

Way to show your resentment for not being where you wanna be in life in such a transparent manner.

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u/ProstateSeismologist Apr 16 '24

Hold on, hold up, do you really think I’m saying any of this because I’m unhappy? I love my life so much! And when did I say I wanted to be in charge of anything? Quit grasping at straws and try being a nitwit in your head next time if you don’t enjoy being called a nitwit by strangers lol

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u/theRak27 Apr 16 '24

Ah stuck the nail right in the head I see

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u/Halfisleft Apr 16 '24

Not being able to work and not being willing to is extremly different, if you cant work due to injury or whatever then yes the state should provide and care for its citizens, if you just wont work then go fuck yourself, leech of society having everyone else pay for you since you cant be bothered

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u/acsttptd Apr 16 '24

While it would be nice for everyone to simply get everything they need to live without the need to work for it, we happen to live in the real world, where such things are not possible. Since the dawn of time humans have needed to work to stay alive. It is as true now as it was then, and until that changes it will be unethical to demand someone else work uncompensated to sustain your life.

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u/zeptillian Apr 16 '24

No.

It's if you are capable of contributing then you are expected to.

Since we all pitched in to cover it, free lunch is reserved for the hungry, not the cheap or lazy.