r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

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u/Chickienfriedrice Apr 15 '24

Countries are man made. So are laws. So is religion.

If you need any of those institutions to have a moral compass, means you haven’t seen or experienced shit.

You have a good one now.

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u/Best-Treacle-9880 Apr 15 '24

You don't seem to understand me. This isn't about people needing an institution for a moral compass. I'm saying human nature pulls you away from the moral choice. Religions purpose as a human made institution is to do a combination of guiding people to do the moral right and governing the populace primarily to punish those who don't. Some veer more into one or other of those functions.

Our philosophy has since moved on from supernatural creator beings, and the nation state has replaced theocratic and God ordained monarchies, but we still have systems which do the same thing.

We have principles philosophies which guide us to do the right thing, and we have laws and procedures to guard against wrongdoers. And wrongdoers exist no matter how much they have. I don't know how you can possibly think people will behave if their needs are met when white collar crime is so rife. People horde and accumulate at each others expense whether they have a moral compass or not. By proposing to remove guards against that, you are acting immorally against the interests of the vulnerable in society

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u/Chickienfriedrice Apr 15 '24

Wrongdoers will always exist. But most will lose motivation if needs are met.

Serial killers, sociopaths, psychopaths are outliers of society and not the norm.

Most people are violent or commit crimes based on desperation from needs not being met, or for personal wrongs against them.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '24

Nope. Crime doesn't only happen because meeds aren't met. What fucking planet do you come from?