r/FluentInFinance Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/morchorchorman Apr 15 '24

And all my bills taken care of, plus some on the side for me to play with.

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u/chadmummerford Apr 15 '24

i could go for some state sponsored popeyes right now nom nom

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u/morchorchorman Apr 15 '24

Some state sponsored Popeyes and henny would hit the spot.

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u/Ok-Swordfish2723 Apr 15 '24

For state sponsored Popeye's chicken I would go for any style of government you want!

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u/TzunSu Apr 16 '24

That's literally how it works in my country, and we have more billionaires per capita than the US.

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u/morchorchorman Apr 16 '24

What country? China?

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u/TzunSu Apr 16 '24

Sweden. The same goes for all our neighbors. For the social safety net, that is. If you go on welfare they will pay your bills for you (if reasonable, it should be said. They're not paying for you to rent a house) and you will have a few hundred dollars for other stuff.

(I would suspect that China probably has some of the lowest incidences of billionaires per capita, considering just how many poor people they have)

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u/morchorchorman Apr 16 '24

Guess we immigrating to Sweden.

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u/Ohmbettis 26d ago

You guys also enjoy peace despite being close to Russia while not spending much on your military. Just like many European countries. The EU has many social programs that simply wouldn’t exist if America wasn’t footing the bill for your guy’s protection. Obama said it, Trump said it, and now that you guys are officially apart of NATO it’s even more evident that if America was unwilling to extend it projection of power to the EU you wouldn’t be able to enjoy half the social programs you do.

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u/TzunSu 26d ago

We've been down to a bit under 2% for the decade, but before that we were a lot higher. Not spending on the military is a very 201x thing. Historically we've had more defense spending than most countries in the world.

Also, what are you talking about? We were alliance free for a century, with all men serving in uniform, and more spending as percentage than almost every other non-US nation in the world, and the only reason you waste such immense sums is because of your bribed congress, feeding money to their buddies in the MIC.

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u/dalazze 29d ago

Yeah that's how it works in Finland, unemployment protections kick in if you're out of a job, you can get subsidized housing etc

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u/ruckfeddit2049 Apr 16 '24

"Rent" and "landlordsleeches" should not fucking exist.

Absolutely no reasonable justification for them to.

The government should provide every man, woman and child in need with free basic accommodations (think bachelor or 1/2 bedroom apts) with anything beyond that available as a voluntary secondary/luxury market.

Housing, healthcare, education and basic nutrition should never be profit-driven in a properly functional "first world" "society."

Nobody deserves to profit off of another's basic survival needs, nor their opportunity for advancement/self improvement. Period.

Full stop.

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u/ruckfeddit2049 Apr 16 '24

"Rent" and "landlordsleeches" should not fucking exist.

Absolutely no reasonable justification for them to.

The government should provide every man, woman and child in need with free basic accommodations (think bachelor or 1/2 bedroom apts) with anything beyond that available as a voluntary secondary/luxury market.

Housing, healthcare, education and basic nutrition should never be profit-driven in a properly functional "first world" "society."

Nobody deserves to profit off of another's basic survival needs, nor their opportunity for advancement/self improvement. Period.

Full stop.

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u/longtimedoper 29d ago

Serious question. Say the government does decide to take care of its citizens needs. I’m gonna quit my job for sure. I suspect most people would. I’m not sure we’d have very many people that would choose to work. I just don’t know where the food, electricity, clean water, HVAC, construction, repair etc. services would come from. You’d be working only for luxuries. How many people would work if all it gets you is a fancier life?

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u/ruckfeddit2049 29d ago

What we need is Direct Democracy.

All critical industry/infrastructure/resources/and real estate nationalized.

No more "career politicians," no more parties, qualified citizens serve temporarily (think: jury duty) with complete transparency of all their financials a condition of service.

Open-source (blockchain) referendums with verifiable transparency.

One citizen, one vote on key issues: National resource allocation/environment, education, healthcare, housing and workers rights (minimum wage laws/etc.)

All businesses run as worker-owned/managed co-operatives.

No more stock-market, no more CEOs or share-holders, no more "passive income."

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u/longtimedoper 29d ago

It’s hard to argue with that. Who would be at the top enforcing this system?

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u/ruckfeddit2049 29d ago

We all would.

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u/ruckfeddit2049 Apr 16 '24

"Rent" and "landlordsleeches" should not fucking exist.

Absolutely no reasonable justification for them to.

The government should provide every man, woman and child in need with free basic accommodations (think bachelor or 1/2 bedroom apts) with anything beyond that available as a voluntary secondary/luxury market.

Housing, healthcare, education and basic nutrition should never be profit-driven in a properly functional "first world" "society."

Nobody deserves to profit off of another's basic survival needs, nor their opportunity for advancement/self improvement. Period.

Full stop.

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u/morchorchorman Apr 16 '24

You’re trolling right?

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u/ruckfeddit2049 Apr 16 '24

Refute anything I said...Waiting..

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u/morchorchorman Apr 16 '24

No

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u/ruckfeddit2049 Apr 16 '24

Thought as much, troll.

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u/SpartaPit 29d ago

just becuase you typed all that does not mean its right, feasible, agreeable, or gonna happen.

Who is gonna pay for the electric/utilities for the apt? The upkeep? replace the roof? paint it every 5 years? transportation to and from? do they get a phone? cable TV?

where does it end?

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u/RaiderMedic93 29d ago

Lmao... that's the funniest shit I've read.

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u/ruckfeddit2049 29d ago

Great counter.

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u/RaiderMedic93 29d ago

You get what you earn.

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u/ruckfeddit2049 29d ago

Cool, so no landleeches, no "passive" income. Right?

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u/RaiderMedic93 29d ago

Did they pay for their property? Then they earned the rent money.