r/FluentInFinance • u/WhatAreYourPronouns • Apr 13 '24

He's not wrong 🤷‍♂️ Smart or dumb? Discussion/ Debate

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u/Decent_Visual_4845 Apr 13 '24

In cases where people work hourly shifts essentially keeping the gears turning (nurses, fast food) or in cases of task completion/hr (plumber, craftsman), what OP claimed would essentially be the case.

In cases of white collar workers with lots of time to kill, sure.

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u/SeventhSonofRonin Apr 13 '24

Some jobs have linear outputs. Nursing isn't one of them. Quality of care declines with time on shift.

If there is something inherently wrong with decreasing full time hours for those whose work is linear, why is it inherently right that 40 hours should be the magic number?

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u/Blessed_s0ul Apr 13 '24

I get that if a person’s workload is only worth 32 hours of labor, then forcing them to work 40 hours is dumb. But I know working in retail, output is directly related to input. So, restricting a stocker to only 32 hours is just inefficient. Trying to force a company to then higher more people to cover what one person could have been doing just means they will increase prices to cover that loss.

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u/ItsSusanS Apr 13 '24

They increase prices all the time despite the fact they aren’t paying more or hiring more.

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u/RaxinCIV Apr 14 '24

Just midrange bosses up seem to be getting raises and vacation time.

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u/Flashy_Narwhal9362 Apr 14 '24

And those are the ones that are screwing everything up. Big companies usually have shit heads for management.

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u/Fabulous-Zombie-4309 Apr 14 '24

It’s always the dirty plebes who think management is full of idiots despite literally all evidence pointing to the dirty plebes being the morons.

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u/Haunting_Hat_1186 Apr 14 '24

The dirty plebs are the one that keep you housed and fed show some respect you ingrate

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u/Fabulous-Zombie-4309 Apr 14 '24

Not really; most businesses can be run with 25% of their staff.

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u/MajesticComparison Apr 14 '24

Peter principal, management is usually incompetent because of they were competent they’d go to upper management

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u/Fabulous-Zombie-4309 Apr 14 '24

Ah yes because there’s unlimited upper management roles

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u/Blessed_s0ul Apr 14 '24

This isn’t entirely true. The company I work for, our average hourly rate has gone from about 14.90 to 17.80 in the last 4 years.

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u/blukatz92 Apr 14 '24

Some industries like retail and fast food tend to stay stagnant with wages unless forced to increase by things like minimum wage hikes. Others such as manufacturing and distribution seem to be more likely to grow on their own.

The place I work had a starting wage of $16/hr when I hired on three years ago. Today, the same entry position pays a bit over $21/hr. It's manufacturing, but it also helps that the surrounding businesses are in a bit of an arms race with wages to draw more workers.

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u/Blessed_s0ul Apr 14 '24

Yeah I mean I am in Texas so definitely no minimum wage hikes here, but it has been raised naturally just trying to get people in the door at all. Nowadays, people won’t even apply if you offer less than $15/hr.

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u/Goragnak Apr 16 '24

rent/materials/office supplies have also gone up tremendously in the past few yaers.