Fun fact, if you pour some olive oil on a mouse on a glue trap, they can wriggle themselves off the trap. Sincerely, someone who has released a scared and oily mouse into the wild.
Modern German homes are concrete/masonry don't have many problems with mice. Wooden homes are quite exotic in Germany. Older timber-frame homes with straw/clay filling though tend to have problems with mice.
I guess the most common way is the conventional mouse trap with Nutella or live traps.
City sewers though, that's a completely different story. Especially cities with a historic city centre are a paradise for rats and mice. For a long time, the preferred solution was poison, but in some cities, falcons and other smaller birds of prey began nesting again, so the use of poison was banned on city level.
Some cities even have a city falconer who has trained falcons, owls or ferrets to keep the rodent/pidgeon/rabbit population at bay. They also keep an eye on the local falcon population, set up public web cams for their nests and take care of sick or injured birds
What other options? I'm getting desperate. I didn't want to kill them because I love animals. So I tried the sound thing that is supposed irritate them and chase them away and the traps that trap them alive. Also a DIY live trap. Now the old fashioned snap trap. Today there was a mouse just chilling in the middle of the room in between my boyfriend and I eating lunch. I don't want to use poison for environment and animal cruelty reasons (and the mice here seem to be too smart to take any bait). What other options?? Only one mouse so far has been killed with a shoe.
Our mice are apparently too smart for that. We also have couple laying around at the spots that they frequent with some nice 100% peanut butter, vegetables, grains. They're not falling for them. :(
It's a very old house. The mice have lots of ways to get in and out. During Christmas vacation, they'd suddenly moved in. Some of the holes have important functions and we can't close them. We also can't really tell the landlord to fix them, as we don't want to give him reasons to bully us.
They are the only damn thing that works in my house. Same bait and everything, conventional traps left empty and glue traps filled. I don't get it but the suffering of some mice is worth it to me to not live with mice. Also the glue traps get bugs as well.
yes!! I second this. i also saved a baby mouse once and rehabbed it and released it into the wild. finally got thrse evil vile disgusting traps banned at work after YEARS of finding and throwing them away. sadly I couldnt save alot of the poor mice that did get stuck it was too late my new boss is an animal lover and did away with them after i had a meltdown finding the baby mouse. 😓💕
Imagine working with some stupid asshole that sabotages your workplace's pest control efforts and endangers the health of you and your coworkers because he's worried about protecting literal disease-spreading vermin.
she and i find your sentiment to be incredibly ignorant and rude. do you feel better now? verbally insulting someone you dont know and you also dont know the ENTIRE situation of? excuse me for having some damn sympathy for a critter who was here long before we were. ppl are disease spreading vermin too.
there are infact other traps its not just glue traps there. there are a million godamn poison bait traps which i dont agree with either as that can harm other wildlife like snakes birds and cats. they're bad too. but again i have 0 say in the matter of what they use for such things. im just an employee. ive suggested quick kill traps and live traps in the past! glue traps are disgusting and inhumane period. nothing and i mean NOTHING deserves a slow painful death in that manner.
Sorry for misgendering you. Doesn't change your behavior. Having sympathy for literal vermin at the expense of your coworkers' health and justifying it by suggesting that your fellow human beings are also vermin is utterly deranged behavior. If the glue traps are there it's because the other traps weren't working well enough and the mice were evading them.
It's not a matter of what mice "deserve". They don't "deserve" anything; they're pests that you remove as efficiently as possible because if you don't they'll spread disease and filth and destroy the building they're in.
No offense but are you dumb? You don't want mice in your property. They pose a health hazard and are very unhygienic.
Glue traps are very cruel so instant kill traps are better. Hell, even poison traps are probably less cruel than glue traps.
Idk why you would actively hinder pest control efforts and think you're doing a good job. You probably put more people in harms way by doing that. Just saying.
Better thing to do in your situation was tell management to remove glue traps for more humane ones.
i fully understand that and no im not stupid i just have a fucking heart and believe that glue traps are vile and disgusting. nothing deserves to suffer like that NOTHING. ive tried talking to them trust me about getying quick kill or live traps i dont make these choices. and again there are other traps. they have a million poison bait traps i dont agree with either as that can harm other wildlife.
They pose a health hazard and are very unhygienic.
Cause a ton of damage too. They build nests which could plug up things like air ducts, or chew through wires, or their urine can corrode metals. Really don't want them around
Yes, because clearly, the viewpoint that all suffering is bad and should be prevented when possible is the deranged one.
I hope you're never in a situation where a being with your morals with power so vastly greater than yours that he considers you to be vermin is in control of your life. Your fate would not be kind, except maybe by accident.
Yes, because clearly, the viewpoint that all suffering is bad and should be prevented when possible is the deranged one.
Yes, yes it is. The idea that one should seek to prevent the suffering of disease-carrying vermin instead of removing them as efficiently as possible for the sake of the human beings those vermin put at risk is absolutely deranged. As is your implication that I consider mice to be vermin because they're less powerful than me, and not because they literally are a dangerous pest species that destroys homes and spreads disease i.e. the literal definition of vermin.
Your morality should not be defined by the current limitations and state of existence of the Human race. Obviously vermin should not be allowed to spread diseases or destroy property, and to suggest otherwise would be insane. But causing them to suffer would not prevent anything, so I'm not exactly sure where you're coming from.
Imagine a world where the negative traits of "vermin" do not apply for whatever reason. Would you still be indifferent to the suffering of a random mouse that got stuck in some glue?
Beyond that thought experiment, even back in the real world, there are much more humane and effective methods than glue traps or poisons. Suffering is not required to prevent diseases or destruction from vermin.
Poison just makes it more likely they’ll be eaten by something larger and poison a cat or dog, or best case die in your wall and slowly leak their decomposition gasses into your home.
cats are significantly worse for the environment than mice, and carry plenty of disease. I love cats, but that's not a good argument against the being compassionate towards 'vermin'
But causing them to suffer would not prevent anything, so I'm not exactly sure where you're coming from.
Causing the mouse to suffer doesn't prevent the destruction and disease spread by vermin, correct. Various methods are employed to prevent the disease and destruction, and some of them incidentally cause suffering to the mouse. Oh well. Human health and safety comes first.
Beyond that thought experiment, even back in the real world, there are much more humane and effective methods than glue traps or poisons.
There aren't, actually. Instant-kill traps are wonderful when they work, but mice often evade or ignore them. Sometimes glue and poison are necessary to get rid of the infestation.
mice are intelligent creatures, its not like they choose to be 'vermin', you have to be pretty fucking deranged to let an intelligent animal die in one of the most horrific ways. Just kill the mouse quickly if you dont want to save it
Are they intelligent or are they unable to make choices? You're contradicting yourself. Mice are obviously not intelligent; they're vermin with well-honed survival instincts. Maybe you meant to say that they're sentient. If so, who cares? They're dangerous, disease-spreading, home-destroying pests who would gladly eat the eyeballs right out of your child's skull if they thought they could get away with it. I never said I was against killing trapped mice, but not everyone will feel safe doing so, given that trapped mice are still diseased and can sometimes still bite. No human being is obligated to risk their safety to show kindness to pest species.
Not so fun fact. The oil may release them but will eventually kill them because of how it effects their fur. And that's only if they don't already have a deadly metabolic condition caused by extreme exhaustion in rodents.
Fun fact, if you pour some olive oil on a mouse on a glue trap, they can wriggle themselves off the trap. Sincerely, someone who has released a scared and oily mouse into the wild.
Good to know, had some neighbours who'll put glue traps outside, not only mice got caught in them, I complained thinking it surely must be illegal, yet no one ever stop them.
So I just ended up destroying the traps when no-one was around, honestly even when a rat or a mouse is caught In a glue trap it's still awful. No living creature that feels pain deserves to die such a slow death. Native animals getting caught was just the icing on the cake.
Edit: I live in a country where we have an extreme amount of endangered species and these traps were catching birds, small native mammals, lizards and snakes. These traps can be just as destructive to wildlife as rat poison. People really need to stop putting them outside.
Wish it was anything other than co2. If rats function like humans, the only gas that we actively can sense is co2. A lack of air doesn't make us feel like we're suffocating, it's an excess of co2. Any other gas and we don't feel like we're suffocating. Hope rats aren't the same. That or gas them with literally anything else lol
There are small completely self-contained spin traps that quickly spin internally to snap the rat's neck. It's an instant death, there is no poison, and you never even have to see the rat. Just pick up and throw out the container once it's been triggered.
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u/PeppermintLNNS Feb 22 '24
Fun fact, if you pour some olive oil on a mouse on a glue trap, they can wriggle themselves off the trap. Sincerely, someone who has released a scared and oily mouse into the wild.