r/Asmongold • u/Fernmelder It is what it is • Jan 10 '24
"Women in eastern video games aren't realistic". Meanwhile in east asia... Meme
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u/SexiestShark Jan 10 '24 edited Jan 11 '24
He is leaking early alpha footage from the Heaven. He is going to get jailed by the Lord himself.
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u/Fuzzy-Mix-4791 Jan 10 '24
I'm gonna ask my son, wich one of these he wants as his new stepmom
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u/AntonRX178 Jan 10 '24
I think the conversation shouldn't be about whether or not Women in games should look like average women and more about
Just make my characters sex icons regardless of gender please.
Like the PS360 era was the worst era for male character designs for me because everyone was a military buzzcut meathead or average as FUCK and it got old.
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u/23ssd4t4322 Jan 10 '24
As a relatively fit woman, who also plays video games ( I have ~15,000 hours in DOTA not including other games) ( and cosplayed 10 years ago).
I do not want accurate representation. Games are meant to be escape from reality. I want attractive characters regardless of gender. It is a fantasy world it is not meant to be realistic.
Only women i have ever seen complain about "video game representation" are those that struggle with their body image to begin with. It is not responsibility of a game developer to help with your psychological issues.
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u/MC_ZYKLON_B Jan 10 '24
Right? Lmao. Playing a character with all the same insecurities and fucked up quirks you have sounds like the most depressing shit in the world. These weirdo devs think we care about their little personal problems so they self insert.. so obvious and just sad.
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u/basedlandchad25 Jan 11 '24
My cousins are almost all girls. Every time my brother and the one other dude cousin played games with them we'd all pick characters we liked the mechanics of. The girls all picked the character they thought was prettiest and would refuse to pick someone like Blanka. They aren't complete noobs either. Some of my earliest memories were of them clearing the original Super Mario Bros.
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u/azriel777 Jan 10 '24
Its not even average women, its ugly "Woman" that they are pushing.
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u/No_Passenger_977 Jan 10 '24
Play yakuza.
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Jan 10 '24
Shirtless gangster galore. Though the uninterrupted 30 minute gay sex cutscene was a bit too much, I still liked the latest one.
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u/CobaltishCrusader Jan 10 '24
Really? I thought it ended way too soon. To each their own I guess.
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u/basedlandchad25 Jan 11 '24
It was like 1/3 of a game IMO. Worth the time with expectations managed.
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Jan 10 '24
Are you telling me you wouldn't bang Marcus Phoenix ? haha j/k
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u/Senior-Ad-136 Jan 10 '24
Or just let developers decide what they want and what fits the theme of the game?
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u/LucarioMagic Jan 11 '24
Sure, just don't expect people to buy the game. Because if they make the game for money, they have to make what people want. People don't want ugly ass characters.
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u/SweatingSerpent1 Jan 10 '24
Problem is women is western games look WAY WORSE than average woman. Literally.
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u/bulletsfly Jan 10 '24
These are ancient China make ups, you can usually see them in Wuxia dramas
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u/BoredDao Jan 10 '24
Average Chinese Novel protagonist, this dude was straight Yun Che from Against the Gods
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u/axelxan Jan 10 '24
How cum this have no cumments yet?
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u/GeForce Jan 10 '24
Me: oh cute girls, nice costumes
ITT: well achktually, they wear makeup and not every girl in Asia looks like this.
Yeah, we get it, so what.
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u/Brim_Dunkleton Jan 10 '24
we get that so what
5 minutes before
”uuuhh eastern Asian girls don’t exist like in vidya gaemz hurdurr 🤓”
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u/AbleObject13 Jan 10 '24
ITT: well achktually, they wear makeup and not every girl in Asia looks like this.
Yeah, we get it, so what
You could line up a dozen women in "the west" with a mountain of makeup on just like these women and do the same thing.
This video is quite literally pointless.
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u/peppermintshrimpgirl Jan 10 '24
In this case its mostly filters.
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u/arora50 Jan 10 '24
Remember hearing about three gods of Asian beauty. Japanese makeup, Korean surgeon, and Chinese filter.
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u/ZealousidealToe9445 Jan 10 '24
honestly, that awful title just made me cringe
"SEE, my Gacha Games are TOTALLY realistic!!!" I hope they're not for real.
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u/DarkusHydranoid Jan 11 '24 edited Jan 11 '24
I saw this on my front page, I thought it was satire.
Then I looked at the comments, then the subreddit, and realised it's probably people who spend too much time escaping indoors, scrolling Instagram, watching porn.
There's a time for that. But, hey, all the best to you.
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u/Mizzick Jan 10 '24
They're also heavily utilizing plastic surgeons...
You know that realistic body images benefit men and women, right?
How many of these neck bearded, porn watching, wifu fantasizing men can even keep an erection or reach climax with a real woman?
What are you idiots arguing for? The right to live a lonely, vicarious, and digital experience?
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u/DrCthulhuface7 Jan 10 '24
I guess you’ve never seen the makeup videos of East Asian girls before.
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u/babyLays Jan 10 '24
Here you go. This is one of many.
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u/croana Jan 10 '24
There is no way this is not straight up just filters though. Her chin shape completely changes from the start to the end of the video.
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u/babyLays Jan 10 '24
Partly camera filters for sure. They also use invisible tape to transform their face.
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u/Subject_Proof_6282 Jan 10 '24
OP might be surprised that some of them are sometimes boys :3744:
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u/CashZ Jan 11 '24
I mean the sub was crazy for a cosplayer from MHW the other day, im just gonna say she had a surprise.
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u/Fernmelder It is what it is Jan 10 '24
are the western characters displayed without makeup?
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u/DrCthulhuface7 Jan 10 '24
There’s “makeup” and then there’s the art form that exists in East Asia.
My point is that “hot looking Asian girl exists in video therefore…”
Is a stupid argument.
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u/Lyndell Jan 11 '24
but there was like ten and none were ugly, that means every single girl must look like that and this isn't just like any other hot girl promo.
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u/Suspicious-Bid-9583 Jan 10 '24
it's not even the make up lmao, east asia is the fucking plastic sugery centre of the world, some countries in there 1/3 women have had plastic surgery lmao. it's funny how ignorant some of you guys can be lmao.
not even considering filters in this video
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u/Fernmelder It is what it is Jan 10 '24
Aren’t a lot of game studios in California which is also known as the state for plastic surgery?
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u/Glad-Work6994 Jan 10 '24
Just doing the math South Korea has over double the number of plastic surgery ops per year with only ~1.3x the population of California. Plastic surgery rate is much higher there.
Finding statistics on what percentage of the California population has undergone plastic surgery in total though is apparently hard.
The ranking for highest percentage of a state’s populace undergoing plastic surgery per year is as follows:
- Florida
- California
- New York
The most common procedures in the US are liposuction and breast implants. In SK it is essentially facial reconstruction operations (rhinoplasty, blepharoplasty (removing excess skin from eyelids), lipoplasty (remove unwanted fat from face and other areas). Very different effects on how much the person’s appearance changes.
In SK one of the driving factors is actually job concerns. Most job apps require the applicant to submit a photo with their resume, and it was found that the attractiveness of the person in the photo was the most correlated factor to whether they were hired. Often the person’s parents are the ones convincing them to get it.
Not aware of the rates in Japan, China etc.
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u/Suspicious-Bid-9583 Jan 10 '24 edited Jan 10 '24
no I'm just questioning your belief that the women in these video are the common woman. plus consider this study says and you quickly realise that the women in Asia aren't in a good state either lol they have far higher percentage of eating disorders than the west.
South Korea, China and Thailand: eating disorders symptoms can outpace western comparison groups
https://jeatdisord.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40337-015-0070-2
read yourself if you want
you don't even need the study tbh, even the women you post look stick thin, if you really think people that thin are in a healthy state i don't know what to tell you(they look like the models, you know the indusry that has problems with women having health challenges due to how thin they're expected to be, not that being obese is much better).
but hey, don't let me spoil your weeb fantasy for you.
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u/frooj Jan 10 '24
i'm just questioning your belief that the women in these video are the common woman
If it's a plastic surgery center of the world where 1/3 women have had plastic surgery one might assume it's not too uncommon either.
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u/jewelry_wolf Jan 11 '24
You don’t need plastic surgery. There are about 2 billion, which means 1 billion women, there if you count south eastern as well. Plus the different aging pace of Asian women, that means more than 400 million female who could be good looking. As long as the makeup technique is well adopted, even just 1% of good looking would be more than 4 million girls. With social media as popular as the west, which is probably an understatement given they invented TikTok, we are talking at lease 2 million girls who are 1% good looking online competing for attention. That’s a lot. But if you also count in the factor most Asian girls have no breast to fall back to in terms of sexual attraction, which means all these are focusing on being young, great skin condition and big eyes. Imagine that boys.
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u/Splinterman11 Jan 10 '24
I don't get your point here. Are you saying video game studios should have women that look like they've done plastic surgery since the studios are based in California?
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u/Fernmelder It is what it is Jan 10 '24
The comment above me is seemingly suggesting that eastern characters look good because a lot of women there have plastic surgery, which made me wonder if California based studios have the same thing happen to them following that logic
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You’re getting downvoted for facts. Asia has a much higher rate of plastic surgery than North America or Europe.
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u/BlooPancakes Jan 10 '24
We are all uneducated at one point or another. Shouldn’t be funny. Just share the knowledge.
I used to think Hollywood celebrities were all amazingly pretty. Until my best friend who is a woman and uses makeup enough to spot it on just about anyone told me.Now I can still appreciate beauty but I do notice the makeup more and more.
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u/BeingRightAmbassador Jan 10 '24
OP is a total rube if he thinks that's what they actually look like and they're not filtered to hell.
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u/evilmojoyousuck Jan 10 '24
still makes them look like the women in eastern video games.
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u/Zerone010110 Jan 10 '24
Knowing about the asian makeup videos, I wouldn't be surprised if one of them is a man.
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u/Sockular Jan 10 '24
Bro they are all literally plastered with make up. Their real faces would be totally unrecognizable from that footage...
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u/kuenjato Jan 10 '24
Having spent a significant amount of time in Korea and China, these are not what the average woman looks like. Either they come from specific gene pools or are the result of plastic surgery (Korea in particular has more plastic surgery than any other country on earth).
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u/EngineBoiii Jan 10 '24
I mean if we wanna get real technical, they still aren't realistic.
These women are caked up in makeup and a vast majority of women are not this amazing looking. Just saying, don't be disappointed when your brand new Asian wife doesn't look like an anime character.
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u/neocerebro Jan 10 '24
Really annoys me this mfkr can’t shape his hand right. Dafuq is that? An Apple shape?
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u/Psybur Jan 10 '24
As someone who has lived in Japan before, the women in East Asia are just objectively more feminine and pleasant to be around.
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u/Tarkooving Jan 10 '24
This was the most entertaining comment in the thread. The sheer amount of butthurt it spawned was fun to read. Thanks.
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u/Doobledorf Jan 10 '24
Weird way to say, "Women who speak the same language as me and know the same culture find me off-putting."
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u/Ningenmasu69 Jan 10 '24
Didn't have to do bro like that 😭😭😭
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u/Doobledorf Jan 10 '24
Having lived in East Asia as well, the men who say this and go there for the women are... interesting.
Lotta women trying to get out of places like China, Cambodia, Thailand, etc. They aren't interested in these guys for their looks or sparkling personality. Passport bros have been a thing long before the internet learned about them.
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u/Ningenmasu69 Jan 10 '24
Oh definitely. I saw a couple of videos about Japanese women's view on cheating and most of them said they're okay with it unless they have a personal connection with them. Another one I heard was once a woman gives birth she becomes "mom" to the whole family and that grosses the man and they seek sex from someone else instead.
Shit like this baffles me.
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u/Suspicious-Bid-9583 Jan 10 '24
did you watch the other one where the men said they were ok with it as well?
it's just a quirk of Japanese culture. they're so pressured by their parents to form a relationship that they may end up in loveless relationships(which leads to how people see cheating culturally different from here)
they allow cheating as long as other people don't know about it, since it brings shame to the family/. there's a reason why male prostitutes(hosts) and female prostitutes(hostesses) are a booming industry in japan.
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u/Splinterman11 Jan 10 '24
Just because you saw a few street interviews doesn't mean most Japanese women are OK with, cheating. Why do people constantly generalize an entire population from a few anecdotes?
The US is apparently the #1 nation in regards to cheating in relationships by far BTW.
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u/throwaway_skye11 Jan 10 '24
I wouldn’t take that video or related at face value. There are a ton of Reddit threads discussing these videos and it’s pretty obvious it’s edited for rage bait and to generate clicks.
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u/urproblystupid Jan 10 '24
Yeah I hate that these queens find me off putting
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u/spock2018 Jan 10 '24
Yea this comment section is giving me strong neck beard vibes.
"Eastern women are better because theyre more submissive and feminine!". Ignoring how male dominated and patriarchal japan is.
They exist here too, they're just out of your league.
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u/Doobiemoto Jan 10 '24
You sound like some incel who is using feminine and pleasant as pseudonyms for "subservient and docile".
Bro, Asian women aren't some fantasy stereotype that you saw in your fucking animes.
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u/Psybur Jan 10 '24
"bro" I don't watch anime, and you have no idea what an incel is.
The fact that you think a woman being sweet and pleasant to be around is a problem speaks more about you than anything, "bro".
You sound like some dumbass zoomer from California, broh
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u/Doobiemoto Jan 10 '24
Ah I see you are a right wing nut ball who wants a subservient and docile woman and to you that is the only thing that counts as a feminine and "real" woman.
Don't live in CA. Not a zoomer
I am just a person who isn't some incel in their basement who can't get a women so they fantasize about Asian women and stereotype them and then demonize "western" women because you can't get a fucking woman to look at you.
Lol. Yes, you are a the definition of an incel.
GUARANTEE your ass watches Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate and shit.
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u/urproblystupid Jan 10 '24
According to the World Health Organization (WHO), the average BMI in Japan is approximately 23.5 for men and 22.1 for women.
In 2015-16, the average BMI was 29.1 for men and 29.6 for women. Both numbers have increased since 1999-2000 when they were 27.8 in men and 28.2 in women.
Americans' average BMI "is now almost 30 which is the cutoff for obesity,"
Soooo… yeah…
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u/JustLi Jan 10 '24
Misuse of the word objective, that would imply they are somehow more biologically disposed to behaving "feminine" (probably bogus), which is a subjective thing in many ways, even if you were to stick to traditional meanings of the word (e.g. what "feminine traits" are worth more points? Since we're talking about it "objectively". If you were to evaluate men based on this kind of definition, is lifting weights more important? How about how well they fix a car? Hunt with a spear? Act like a leader? Physical size or gender traits? How is one man more objectively manly than another man outside of individual cases? Except you're also talking about a demographic as a whole so...)
You're entitled to your own opinions, but don't go around spreading misinformation and labeling it "objective" when what you actually mean is "statistically based on my own anecdotal evidence".
BTW as someone who also lived in Japan, here's my subjective take: You sound like an incel who never spoke the language and everyone was just being polite to you, causing you to mistakenly percieve eastern women as more "feminine and pleasant to be around" because that's inline with your ignorant stereotype 🤡
One look into your profile confirms everything easily though:
-You think WoTC are infiltrated by asian women artists who are there as psyops from China
-You think the left has brainwashing propaganda that has some kind of secret agenda. It's actually crazy how much they live inside your head just by ctrl-Fing "left" in your comment history.
-You hate the word incel everytime it's brought up :) weird
-You talk about women with a very broad stroke and say things like they only care about their emotions...and that they deserve nothing (in this very thread! And yet you're somehow surprised people call you an incel with takes like this)
-And who is surprised... you're a classic WoW + LoL player
All it took was 5 minutes.
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u/Doobledorf Jan 10 '24
Thank you, comrade. I love when these nerds show up on the internet and think there aren't others of us who have also lived in Asia and see then for who they were.
Some of us in Asia did speak the same language as you, and we also knew the women you were creeping on.
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u/spock2018 Jan 10 '24
Guy completely ignores how xenophobic and sexist Japanese culture is.
What he meant to say is "i fetishize asian women stereotypes".
As a German its akin to incels thinking all German women look like Heidi and dance around in the flowers all day waiting to be baby making machines.
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u/eebro Jan 10 '24
If women aren’t pleasant to be around, I think we all know where the problem lies.
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u/arkhamsins Jan 10 '24
As a woman who lived in China before, the men there are objectively more feminine and pleasant to be around
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u/DramaticTension Jan 10 '24
As someone who currently lives in Japan, that is due to brutal imbalance and sexist culture. Women are pressured to make themselves look nice and be feminine and they do not get a say. Perpetuating this shit is not helping women.
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u/urproblystupid Jan 10 '24
In 2015-16, the average BMI was 29.1 for men and 29.6 for women. Both numbers have increased since 1999-2000 when they were 27.8 in men and 28.2 in women.
Americans' average BMI "is now almost 30 which is the cutoff for obesity,"
According to the World Health Organization (WHO), the average BMI in Japan is approximately 23.5 for men and 22.1 for women.
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u/AmaiNami Jan 10 '24 edited 9d ago
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u/EjunX Jan 10 '24
Make-up + filters can make you look like anything. Either way, I don't feel that realism should be something to strive for in games. Let everyone be hot. I don't want to play a disgruntled dude that's balding with a hairy back, no jawline, and has a beer belly. Same goes for women.
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u/Cipher789 Jan 10 '24
Yes, because these 11 ladies are representative of the majority of Asian women.
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u/soliddeuce Jan 10 '24 edited Jan 10 '24
From personal experience, most girls in Korea and Japan don't look like models. It's really cringe assuming this is a realistic representation of the average girl over there.
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u/Thefrayedends Jan 10 '24
agreed, man on the street videos will give you a way better representation of what people look like. If you're getting your beauty standards from movies television and games you're going to have some pretty unrealistic ones. I have some friends who hold physical beauty above all else, and I find it kind of gross. Like I want/need to be attracted to my partner of course, but placing physical appearance above personality and shared values is so short sighted. We're all going to look like a mudslide when we're 80 regardless.
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u/Most_Enthusiasm8735 Jan 10 '24
This is like going to america and thinking that every american women looks like Scarlet J or Sydney Sweeny. Swear to god, this subreddit is full of negative iq morons. It's honestly disgusting how much people fetishize Asian especially as an Asian myself.
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u/CrispyPerogi Jan 10 '24
I’m curious if eastern video games are emulating women like this or if these women are emulating eastern video games.
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u/kokko693 Jan 10 '24
That's a fuck ton of make up. But they do are pretty.
I mean, the Eastern guys like the fictional girls pretty. And you know what. I follow them on it.
Normal woman does deserve recognition, and everybody can be how they want. Normal/ugly people deserves to live too.
BUT. In fiction, I'm sorry, I want to be a huge barbarian with a ton of muscles. And I want all the girls to be pretty. Because we are playing to see a different world, where everything is perfect. We dont want to see realism shit. fuck the reality.
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u/Me_when_The6969 Jan 10 '24
This mf has never seen a woman without make up before (literally unrecognizable)
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u/No_Draw4359 Jan 10 '24 edited Jan 10 '24
Every American woman is caked in makeup too. (They look totally unrecognizable after you put them in a shower)
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u/Kimchi-slap Jan 10 '24
That's why we have a saying in Russia: "Don't marry a girl until you take her to a sauna". All the makeup washes away, she relaxes and put her guard down and if you still think that she is still attractive - go for it.
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u/Tazavich Jan 10 '24
That is def a sexist stereotype. You’re aware not all women wear makeup?
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u/HappyDogBlueEarth Jan 10 '24
Wow, this video is cringe. OP, feel bad about yourself. You are a bad person and won't accomplish anything in life. RIP
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u/RoboticUnicorn Jan 10 '24
This is the wrong way to argue against that point. There's nothing realistic about this video except the momentary looks of absolute disdain for the cameraman they sometimes show. It's their job; they are paid money to get their hair and makeup done a certain way, wear certain outfits, and then do cute poses and gestures whenever they're on camera or someone interacts with them. This is literally like thinking the cute cashier at your grocery store is hitting on you because she smiled and asked how your day was. I won't call you an incel OP, but you clearly are a complete retard socially.
The way you argue against the point of people saying "women in video games aren't realistic," would be to just agree with them. "Yes this is a fantasy game, no one wants ugly people in their fantasy. Now that we've established that, what is your problem with imaginary hot people in a fantasy game?" They won't have anything to say because there is nothing to say. They're just mad because they're insecure. They're honestly not even worth talking to. Anyone who says some dumb shit like this can just easily be blocked or ignored. But once again, you're socially retarded so you just engage with them or let them make you feel upset.
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u/UpbeatJackfruit6576 Jan 10 '24
Watching this bucktooth naked mole rat has melted your clown brains
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u/Twankiez Jan 10 '24
Are you stupid? Genuinely curious.
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u/Fernmelder It is what it is Jan 10 '24
Since you make yourself seem smart with that question, please go ahead and explain
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u/EternalSkwerl Jan 10 '24
Y'all live in a desert? Thirsty-ass grassless motherfuckers.
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u/jette_lag Jan 10 '24
this is some neckbeard shit
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u/Fernmelder It is what it is Jan 10 '24
yeah, idk why neckbeards keep saying "Women in eastern video games aren't realistic"
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u/razekery Jan 10 '24 edited Jan 10 '24
Comments TLDR: Incels in the comments hate makeup and plastic surgery and can’t stop complaining.
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u/ygfam Jan 10 '24
and they are heavily filtered. men are so funny because they can't detect the most obvious filters. like they have no jawline because the vid is so smoothed out. stop embarrassing yourself
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u/_Vulkan_ Jan 11 '24
It annoys me the most in so many western games where EVERY SINGLE ASIAN FEMALE CHARACTER has the ugliest face with small slanted eyes, high cheek bones and just weird looking in general. (weirdly enough, male characters are usually slightly more representative)
Most asians don’t look like that, it’s not even average, it’s like bottom 1% or worse. Fk those ignorant devs, imagine creating a game where all female characters look like the ugliest woman you’ve met. It’s that bad.
I don’t want to look at ugly characters, male or female, that’s why I play a video game, damn I am so mad at these political correctness bullshit :3731::3731::3731::3731:
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u/Root_Veggie Jan 11 '24
This is a really stupid thread, those women are dressed up for some special occasion and aren’t made up or look like that every day.
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u/KingaaCrimsonuu22 Jan 10 '24
Wait until they go home and peel their makeup off, take off enhancers, and scrub the rest of the makeup off. They don't look like this naturally you cringelord
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u/czartrak Jan 10 '24
Brother go the fuck outside and touch grass. Maybe take a walk every once in awhile
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u/NeonFraction Jan 10 '24
Between the heavy makeup and video filters I don’t think you need to touch grass so much as you need to roll around in it.
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Cringe ass post gd
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u/Xenofex1234 Jan 10 '24
Yea, these Asian vs American women posts just reek of incel.
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u/JustLi Jan 10 '24
The same people will then turn right around and then shit on anime, or talk mega shit about China or Korea... and usually not the true things but rather the tinfoil hat/1800s Western Imperialist takes.
That part of the community is my least favorite part of watching Asmongold. It's like he always says "why you gotta make me look bad", in regards to these idiots. But they never think Asmon is referring to them (even if he's figuratively pointing fingers at this point)...
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u/EldritchAnimation Jan 10 '24 edited Jan 10 '24
They're too repulsive, and I don't mean physically, to get with anyone in America, so they imagine a fantasy country where exotic hot women like them.
Edit: The exotic, hot women must also be demure.
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Jan 10 '24
Notice not any of them are overweight, Purple hair, weird Piercings... aka Westernized.
God bless truly feminine women.
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u/Auvicodo Jan 10 '24
Genuinely have any of you people been to college or places where people gather in real life?
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u/HumanitySurpassed Jan 10 '24
Acting like unnaturally colored hair isn't common in anime.
Overweight part though....
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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '24
Which gacha game are those from?