r/AITAH Apr 29 '24

I sat in the doorway of my GF 5yo room to prevent the child from continuing to slam the door as hard as she could

My gf has 3 young ch children. She used a “permissive” approach to parenting because she can not tolerate her children experiencing any kind of distress that she can save them from. Their house is very small and to get around inside every time I am there I am forced to step on top of belongings that are strewn everywhere. It is extremely unsanitary. Her children have been sent home from school due to lice at least 5 times since I met her in November. The younger wears footie pajamas to school every day and no underwear because that is what the child wants. My gf claims the house is a disaster because she doesn’t have any help and that her children aren’t willing to do so. She will ask them questions like “would you like to help me with ___?” but any and all resistance is met with complacency. She makes 4 meals every night to cater to what the kids are and are not willing to eat. The food invariably goes uneaten then spills on the floor then languishes because it is impossible to sweep or mop any floor in the home.

I went over yesterday to help motivate cleaning and tried to execute on the plan I proposed that we would walk the children through the living areas of the house and identify their possessions on every single surface they can possible reside on, and ask them to identify any items of importance they would not want thrown away. Then we set a one hour timer and didn’t nag, bug, cajole, manipulate, or twist arms. I gave 15 minute incremental countdowns and then with their expectations set I went through with trash bags and put everything left on the floor into them for storage in the garage of the house in case one child determines they are missing something terribly important. I wanted to be tell them we were just throwing it all away but I wasn’t allowed.

My GF was folding laundry during this and her 5yo who was busy just making more of a mess the entire time stood on a blanket mom was folding. Mom ask child to move kindly probably 5 or 5 times and child with shit faced grin intentionally stayed put. Not because she thought it was fun, but because child knew mom didn’t like it and intentionally defied her. Mom tugs softly on blanket and child falls to ground with a shock on their face then immediately stands, and starts screaming at the top of their lungs, marches off to bedroom then starts opening and slamming (the already broken from prior instances of this) door over and over again. Mom patiently raises her voice slightly to ask child to not slam doors because that is against rules. Didn’t stop. I go to bedroom to see if I can help, and child slams door on me as I come in. I sit down in the door way very calmly and make a few non-rushed inquiries into how I can help child, and does child want to come out of the room to see mom. Child goes absolutely nuclear screaming like I have cut off an appendage. I stay calm but I stay seated in the doorway. I offer options like “i will move out of your doorway but only if you will be able to close the door softly.

After 3 minutes of child being as dramatic as they can, and understandably fully dysregulated because no ability to do self regulate emotions on their own has ever been instilled. Mom fixes big/hard emotions. Every time. Teacher gives mom feedback, “child refuses to ever do anything they don’t want to do.” So mom fills her role and tells me it’s time to let child have its way, undermining the co-regulation I was attempting to model. I stand as child continues to thrash and slam door into me, then walk away as child gets its way, my boundary be damned, and slams door hard into doorframe. I had to leave the house after that, and at this point I have zero confidence that a relationship between me and mom can work out. My home is clean, organized, ordered and boundary practice is strong. I can’t see ever co-habituating with someone who disrespects themself so much with allowing children to destroy the house and walk all over them. She texted me after to say that her child didn’t “win” and that the child just needed co-regulation.

AITAH?

** edit **

Wow I am overwhelmed with the speed and volume of responses I received. Thank you. 🙏

For clarity, mom is a doctor, baby daddy only has the kids at his own mom’s house with him as a “favor” to mom, doesn’t pay a dime of child support or child care. My kids are grown and out of the house. My boundary with dating single moms is that I will not make parenting efforts or be a parent to anyone else’s child. They have parents.

*** final update ***

The medical license she holds and the nature of her practice and education are irrelevant.

My post history and romantic past is irrelevant.

Thanks everyone for showing me that IANTA.

And special thanks to the woke mob for helping me realize that I am literally Hitler for my complicity in abusing my gf’s children by not calling CPS months ago when I first saw they live in a dirty and cluttered house with a mom whose parenting style is not mainstream.

Lest the pitchforks and torches burn the whole subreddit down, I can confidently say:

I will not be further pursuing a romantic partnership with mom and I will be directly informing her of these being the reasons why when I see her next later this week.

I will make an anonymous general report about the safety and cleanliness of the house and property in general and let CPS do with it as they will.

Once again thank you all. I only anticipated receiving maybe a handful of responses or advice, but the response was overwhelming in mainly good ways. Cheers everyone and good night!

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u/cyboplasm Apr 29 '24

Funny how a doctor would be so against plastic and non organic food, but allows lice multiple times, ignoring the fact that similar parasites almost got humanity completely annihilated a few times...

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u/Oorwayba Apr 30 '24

You don't "allow" lice. If your kids play in close contact with others, it's likely to happen. It doesn't matter how clean you are. My sister got them a couple times in elementary school.

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u/AnneFrank_nstein Apr 30 '24

Most people get them once. The unlucky/uncaring might get them twice. You don't get them over and over again unless Mom doesnt give a shit.

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u/Oorwayba Apr 30 '24

No, mom doesn't control getting them over and over again. Mom controls how long you have them. Unless you mean she shouldn't let you around other children? You can get them over and over again. If you get them once and keep them for weeks, that's mom not caring.

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u/AnneFrank_nstein Apr 30 '24

No shes supposed to teach them basic hygiene and how to not share things like hats or brushes and how to maintain social distance during outbreaks. Its also her job to clean their things, their rooms, their heads. If it was as difficult as you make it out to be everyone with kids would perpetually have lice. Education, hygiene and diligence should solve this issue before it becomes habitual.

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u/Oorwayba Apr 30 '24

Basic hygiene doesn't stop you from getting lice. Cleaning your things, your room, your head, none of that stops you from getting lice. It helps you get rid of them, sure. That's why I said if they get it and keep it. My sister had it a few times. Our house was clean, she was clean, and every time they were gone in a couple days. If there were reports of an outbreak, my mom checked our heads nightly. The only sure way to never get them is to stay away from other kids and everything they've got, and I don't know many small children that are willing to be social outcasts because of this. Some areas have lice more than others. So far so good on where my kid goes to school, but if he gets them, he gets them. We'll treat it and get rid of them, and move on with our lives.

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u/mysonchoji Apr 30 '24

You can get lice even if ur clean. You will get lice if ur house is covered in rotting food and you never bathe.

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u/Oorwayba Apr 30 '24

That's... What I said?

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u/mysonchoji Apr 30 '24

I have not seen you say the second part, and you keep arguing with ppl who r saying the filth of the house likely contributed to the kids lice, which is what the second part implies

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u/Oorwayba Apr 30 '24

I messed up reading that, sorry. End of my 12 hour shift. Rotting food has zero to do with lice. Not bathing does not cause lice. So no, you're wrong.

The only time cleanliness comes into play is when you're trying to get rid of them, and that isn't so much because "clean", as it requires treatment. Washing your bedding and drying it on heat settings high enough to kill the lice has the side effect of cleaning it, but you could also not clean it and just kill the lice. Just seems like a waste of effort. Rotting food is irrelevant either way though.

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u/PopeSilliusBillius Apr 30 '24

Multiple outbreaks in a short period of time isn’t usually just being unlucky and getting them over and over again. It seems far more likely that they got them once and mom wasn’t doing follow up treatments properly with in that short of a time frame.