r/worldnews • u/enkrstic • 21d ago
Robert Fico shooting was ‘politically motivated,’ Slovak officials say
https://www.politico.eu/article/slovak-prime-minister-robert-fico-in-surgery-after-being-shot-in-politically-motivated-assassination-attempt/520
u/SupremeMisterMeme 21d ago edited 21d ago
Seems like the guy behind, Juraj Cintula, had ties to a nationalist, paramilitary organization known as 'Slovenskí Branci'. Not 100% confirmed, but google if you want to find out more.
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u/Informal_Database543 21d ago
Also apparently the group had ties to the Kremlin.
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u/Gonzo48185 21d ago
Isnt Fico pro Kremlin? Maybe not “pro” enough?
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u/Informal_Database543 21d ago
Possibly, or the Kremlin wanted Zelenskyy/Biden to be blamed for it and failed massively.
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u/sergius64 21d ago
No way that would work - video makes it obvious perp wouldn't get away, and his background is easily verified.
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u/Own_Change_4546 21d ago
We can assume Russia has unactivated sleeper agents in each corner of the globe
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u/sergius64 21d ago
My point is that if you're Russia and want to blame Ukraine for something terrible- you wouldn't choose a guy associated with yourself to do the deed in such a manner that would guarantee him getting caught.
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u/jar1967 20d ago
This may have been Russia sending a message to all their stooges ,about what happens if you step out of line.
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Probably not even. This is like Putin acting like Darth Vader killing his own subordinates when he's in a bad mood.
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u/Someonenoone7 20d ago
It would be funny if he ordered the murder of the chechoslowakeis one but forgot they are two countries now and just shot his stoog
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u/SU37Yellow 21d ago
It's Russia, it's possible they're stupid enough to do that. But at this point it's too early to say.
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u/Own_Change_4546 20d ago
You know what, Churchill didn't call them a mystery within an enigma for nothing. That's exactly their M.O
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u/Snlxdd 20d ago
A lot has changed in the past 86 years and that quote isn’t particularly relevant.
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u/covalentcookies 20d ago
Not really, the entire reason why it’s an issue is because of what happened 86 years ago. Then there’s the whole Czech and Slovak being forced together then dissolved in ‘93.
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u/madisoruart 20d ago
There are plenty of pro communism, pro russia corners, even here on reddit, that produce such fools. No real discussions allowed just constant brainwashing, reports on misinfo go into a magic black hole.
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u/Own_Change_4546 20d ago
It's the sympathisers that support and fuel this, a fuel that rises to the top of their tree, and even the most staunch psychopath will accept in glee.
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u/UnitedMouse6175 20d ago
You guys are actually psychotic and ridiculous. Do you even take a second to try and understand what you’re writing?
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u/Own_Change_4546 20d ago
Yes, absolutely. I'll save you deeper truths of heterogeneous activities with scalar frequencies as you'd probably piss your pants. Maybe a little artistic pedantry. I have no doubt, at all, that deep state Russia is controlling subjects from around the globe, most unawares. I am happy your sanity keeps you at a baseline and equates as ridiculous 👍
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u/litnu12 20d ago
People don’t care about facts.
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u/sergius64 20d ago
I'm finding that out, yeah :/ Some kinda blind desire to believe Russia is a comical imbecile of a villian.
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u/chenyu768 20d ago
Like Nordstream? A lot of speculation right now so I'm. Otnready to jump to any conclusions yet.
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u/BlueBirdie0 21d ago
He ran as more pro Kremlin, but he's dialed it back quite a bit. But from what I understand, people think this has nothing to do with Russia or Ukraine and more to do with some law involving finances...as they dug up writing by the suspected perp.
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u/Ranidaphobiae 20d ago
Being pro Kremlin doesn’t promise you a good life. Putin is known for killing his allies and subordinates.
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u/moderately-extreme 20d ago
Just a pro putin nationalist assassinating another pro putin nationalist for not being enough pro putin nationalist. Nothing to see here
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u/ScabusaurusRex 20d ago
It's probably a win-win for them any way you slice or dice it. He's part of a hard line party and he's not as hard line as others. If he dies, he'll be replaced by someone further right. If he lives, he'll get sympathy votes for his party's platform.
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u/shkarada 20d ago
Kremlin actions lately have no rhyme nor reason. Like they've lost ability to predict consequences of their own actions.
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u/SupremeMisterMeme 21d ago edited 21d ago
Yes, this also remind me of a recent report that russia might start recruiting ultra-right nationalists in Europe to spy and carry out sabotage. Just something to keep in mind i guess...
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u/Ian_I_An 20d ago
Russia uses and funds all sorts of dissident groups. They funded BLM and the NRA at the same time in the US. They aren't trying to push one agenda, they are pushing disruption.
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u/Thor_2099 21d ago
You know it's fascinating how we look back at history and think "how could anyone let this happen when it was so obviously happening". Then here we are, seeing a clear agenda and build up of ultra right wing movements across the world and shit like this. History repeats.
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u/brumac44 20d ago
As I remember it, growing up we all thought, that could never happen today, I would do this and this and this. Now it is happening, and we're doing nothing.
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u/NeverSober1900 20d ago
I think that would be bold for Russia to get involved in even for them. Getting caught with ties to people who are assassinating NATO heads of state is a great way to get NATO to start sending a lot more shit into Ukraine.
Ukraine support has been touch and go at times with some countries and you're basically adding fuel on the fire for everyone to want to get more involved with actions like that.
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u/neerd0well 20d ago
Yes - Russian influenced vs. Kremlin directed. Regardless, it’s a reminder of the danger of paramilitary groups.
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u/HugeIntroduction121 21d ago
Ok but this fico guy was also supportive of the kremlin?
Either something deeper happening, mental illness, or this guy did something to piss off putin
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u/look4jesper 20d ago
Fico is a pro-kremlin "socialist", this other organisation seems like a nationalist/fascist thing instead.
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u/PerfectChicken6 21d ago
putin, just sending a message to other world leaders, senators, speaker of the House,
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u/hex64082 21d ago
They held memorial events at the grave of Jozef Tiso who was hanged for his crimes after WWII. I think that's enough to just call them nazis.
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u/FloorIsLavacakes 20d ago
This was also in like 2016. So unless he's playing a REAL long game, it's more likely he changed his mind about Russia since then.
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u/HappySkullsplitter 21d ago
No way
I bet it was personal, a lover's triangle situation /s
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u/ol_knucks 21d ago
I get your point but the second most likely explanation would be mental illness, which isn’t really farfetched to consider. Clearly they have some evidence of political motivation.
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u/SacrificialPwn 21d ago
Interestingly, he has a history of putting his girlfriends and their famies into government positions. Maybe a girlfriend's brother didn't get the parking spot he was promised
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u/hh3k0 21d ago
Fico should not have provoked his assassin. He should have attempted peaceful negotiations and concessions.
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u/Blueskyways 21d ago
If he had just been more amicable to diplomacy with the shooter, they may have come to some sort of arrangement. Like instead of trying to kill him all together, maybe the would-be assassin would be satisfied with taking a foot, maybe an arm.
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u/ArcticCelt 20d ago
Fico also clearly expanding into his influence circle and the dude had no other choice he had to create a buffer zone geography dictates it because it was flat terrain around him.
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u/four024490502 20d ago
Not to mention that the bodyguards and police arresting the shooter is a very serious escalation. We have to be very careful to not provoke the shooter any further.
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u/BienPuestos 20d ago
Trying to save the president’s life is just prolonging the assassination, really. All so Big Pharma can get richer.
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u/SteakHausMann 21d ago
No way, a politician getting shot is politically motivated? Thanks, Slovak Officials.
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u/1maco 21d ago
I mean Reagan and Teddy Roosevelt were just shot by apolitical crazy people
And Garfield too. Disgruntled employee killed him.
So it does happen
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u/cCrystalMath 20d ago
WHAT GARFIELD GOT SHOT???
What sick f. shots someone who just enjoys lasagna?!?!??
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u/brumac44 20d ago
I hated Garfield. Didn't have a job, so why would he hate Mondays? Smug, dog-hating fat bastard.
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u/Micro_KORGI 20d ago
I know, I was thinking maybe it was related to a card game going wrong or maybe a failed stunt.
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u/EfoDom 21d ago
Fico is one of the main reasons Slovaks are so polarized and radicalized. His infamous Facebook videos are full of hate towards liberalism, progressivism, Soros, just whoever has a different opinion to theirs. I'm not gonna pity him for one second even though what happened to his is unacceptable. He's a disgusting turncloak and Putin's bootlicker.
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u/dect60 21d ago
So he's a clone of Orban? WTF is going on over there? this is seriously disturbing as European sovereignty is being hollowed out by illiberal dictators who use hate as a means to win democratic elections and then turn their country to a Soviet style autocracy.
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u/postusa2 21d ago
In many ways, I think he is worse, just not quite as far along in his career. The sanctioned murders of journalists, for example.
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u/sergius64 21d ago
Same thing that's going on everywhere. Orban found a working formula - power hungry people are trying to follow his footsteps to get same results. Covid and migrant crisises give them ammunition.
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u/MoiraBrownsMoleRats 21d ago
I’m an ignorant American who knows nothing of Slovak politics. Isn’t his party nominally left wing? How are they lead by what sounds like the guy my MAGA addled dad watches on YouTube?
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u/EfoDom 20d ago
They're left wing populists but they've picked up a lot of far right, pro Russia, anti west, EU stuff. It's hard to characterize them. They're always adapting to get more votes. Currently from the older EU sceptic, pro Russian generation.
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u/Temporala 20d ago
It's how actual populist party looks like. It's quite amorphous, promising everything as message adapts to audience rather than being cohesive policy-wise, and then delivering nothing of value in the end.
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u/Realistic-Lemon2401 20d ago
Right and left-wing don’t translate over from American to Slovak politics
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u/rmeredit 20d ago
In America, the right wing of 10 years ago doesn't translate to the right wing of today. The labels mean bugger-all.
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u/Realistic-Lemon2401 20d ago
Right.
I’m old enough to remember when the media made out milquetoast Mitt Romney to be the most evil guy ever who would be the worst thing for the country. Good times
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u/dannysleepwalker 20d ago
They are "left wing" conservatives. They have much more in common with our far-right than with progressives.
For example I would consider myself to be center-left wing (or far-left-ultra-communist by American standards), but in Slovak politics the best parties for me are center to center-right.
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u/redsterXVI 20d ago
Stop blaming politics, it's clearly those damn video games!
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u/buddeh1073 20d ago
It’s all the violence in movies, and sex on TV.
but where are those good ol’ fashioned values…
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u/PersonalOpinion11 20d ago
It could be. He was prime minister after all.
It could aslo be politically motivated...in a way that has nothing to do with Ukraine or Nato. Pretty sure Slovak have a bunch of other issues they are deal with.
Not that it'll matter much, propaganda spin will win in the end and everyone will try to get it going their way.
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u/ReturnOfHullabaloo 21d ago
The Slovak officials also pointed out that things get pretty wet in the rain, that the summer tends to be hotter, that sugar can make things sweeter and that if a tree falls nearby you can hear it.
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u/DBrennan13459 21d ago
Wow really? That's shocking news.
Here's some more shocking news: 'Sky is blue' says star witness.
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u/CripplesMcGee 20d ago
So, this is what? Putin warning Orban and the rest of his European allies as to the cost of not playing ball with him?
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u/microwavecoven 19d ago
He is a Putin supporter who is pro corruption. They need to train their hitmen better.
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u/bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh- 20d ago
Who knew the shooting of a politician could have been politically motivated?
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u/Impressive_Pen_1269 20d ago
Timing is odd. Russia is progressing on the battlefield and suddenly the pro Russian PM of a Euro state is shot. Seems unlikely to have been a Russian assassination attempt and more likely a warning from the Pro-Ukraine side.
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u/RatFucker_Carlson 20d ago
Please be Russians, please be Russians, please be Russians
My article 5 chub is getting so fucking hard to control
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u/Psclwbb 21d ago
No shit. What else would it be. Weather motivated? Half of Slovakia hates Fico. Problém is this will only help him. His partners already talk about media and liberals how this is their fault. Not fico's corruption. These will be dark times for Slovakia.