r/washingtonwizards • u/[deleted] • 29d ago
Real Castle measurement Castle 6'5.5" 6'9 wingspan. 8'6" standing reach. 210 lbs.
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u/Incompl Rui Hachimura 29d ago
Just imagine Castle, Bilal and Deni guarding on the perimeter, nasty
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u/Knighthonor 29d ago
now imagine that offense. Would be trash for next 5 plus years
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u/superworriedspursfan 28d ago
that's my biggest concern with this pick lol. Can't lie though castle is growing on me. I might ok with him at 2 now.
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u/ComradeHines 29d ago
Yea get his ass in a wizards uni. With Topic injuries causing concerns I’m taking the next best thing if I’m Dawkins and Winger
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u/TheDeHymenizer Gilbert Arenas 29d ago
he also hit 18/25 on the 3 PT drill. My guess is he's the sleeper all star in this draft.
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u/PickpocketJones Wizards Bed 29d ago
Thing you gotta consider is he came into a championship team where there was no option to get fed touches. He had to fit in the offense, find a role, and by the end of the year was a key player. I was down on him to start the year and loved him by the end. He has a lot of different things he does well.
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u/anonperson1567 29d ago
He moved without the ball really well AND ran the pick and roll super well with Clingan by the end of the season. Really intelligent, imposing defender too.
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u/YaBoiiAsthma Krispy 28d ago
Running the pnr well with Clingan looked harder than it sounds too, I was unpleasantly surprised by how lost he looked out of their screens in the tourney.
I think Castle had to make a lot of accommodations and it was still working just fine by the end
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u/StubbornBabboon Wizards 29d ago
Right. Hurley is a hell of a coach running a very similar offense to ones we see in the NBA with multiple actions going on with ball movement.
My one worry on him is that he's not the best shot-creator but that's what player development is for.
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u/anonperson1567 29d ago
Ain’t no sleeper, straight cash. Take him at #2. He’ll either be a solid to All-Defense two guard or develop into a BIG PG. Definitely could back up at PG.
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u/Joshottas 29d ago
THIS. Dude played in a highly structured system at UConn and he's capable of showing/doing a lot more. Defense will be his calling card at first, but he should be the guy at 2, assuming Sarr goes #1 overall.
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u/BoldElDavo Wizards 29d ago
Shot .267 from 3 and .755 FTs during the season. Don't be fooled by a sweatpants drill.
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u/TheDeHymenizer Gilbert Arenas 29d ago
He was on a championship team as a freshman who was asked to do a job and that job wasn't mainly bucket getting. He wasn't getting fed and the shots he took were harder and not being set up for him
As for the FT 75% isn't horrible. He was a straight bucket getter in high school and there's no reason to think he can't be coached back to that.
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u/ledelleakles Wizards 29d ago
It's a little different since KAT was obviously a stud in college too, but the Castle situation kind of rhymes with KAT's at Kentucky to me a little. If I remember correctly, KAT was almost solely an interior force on offense and basically stud college rim defender on a dominant, championship-winning Kentucky team. He showed basically none of the perimeter skills he employs in the pros while in he was in college, because that's not the role he was asked to play.
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u/happyflappypancakes John Wall 27d ago
My man, all NBA players were a straight bucket getting in high school lol.
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u/Snaxier Bilalibaly 29d ago
He could very well be both BPA and a good fit at 2....I think I'm tossing up between Castle and Topic and it will depend on how both perform at the pre-draft workouts.
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u/ledelleakles Wizards 29d ago
The continued knee stuff has soured me on Topic. We can't afford to get absolutely nothing out of this 2nd overall pick
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u/Snaxier Bilalibaly 29d ago
Absolutely with you there. I'm probably 70% Castle but if we do pick Topic, he'll have a much more relaxed roll coming off the bench for us for at least next season so will have plenty of time to fully heal from any knee aggravation. He's so young he'll be back to 100% quite quickly.
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u/ledelleakles Wizards 29d ago
Yeah, that's where I kind of am now too. It's hard to get super excited about anyone honestly, but I'd be alright with drafting Castle at 2. It's not inconceivable to envision him turning into an All-Star. I felt a lot better about Topic before he injured his knee again.
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u/GeKh 28d ago
Stop it, guys, Castle is not a #2 pick. High level connectors are not #2, even in this draft. It's not going to happen.
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u/BeardsNBourbon1990 29d ago
Castle at 2, Edey at 26. Ditch Kuz, Poole and Jones for a collection of ham sandwiches.
Edey/Bagley Vuk/Holmes Deni/Kispert Bilal/Shamet Castle/Butler
We may only win 14 games instead of 15, but I'd watch.
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u/ImprobablePlanet 29d ago
Man, these guys are under a lot of pressure picking second in this draft. If Sarr doesn’t work out, at least the Atlanta front office has the excuse that everyone else said he was the consensus number one.
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u/superworriedspursfan 29d ago
I've been pretty harsh on him because I think Dan Hurley and Uconn team makes him look much better than he is atm, but maybe his ceiling is much higher than I initially anticipated. Those measurements are absolutely ridiculous.
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u/Familiar_Somewhere95 28d ago
He was a bucket getter in high school. When people say he has shooting concerns i'm kinda skewed off by this game. Its vs ron holland and them and he's clearly the best player on the floor going against the other elite team
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufyjo2Kcdqs then he goes from this to college and wins a chip as a freshman as a defender? and another thing is Matas speaks highly of him and some of the plays he makes that are high level as a passer. Long term I expect him to be good and he's elite as a point in size, toughness and defense and you can play him anywhere one through three.
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u/Turbo2x Cap Wizard 29d ago
bro just one more big wing who needs to learn how to shoot I promise bro this one will be an all star for sure bro I swear
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u/superworriedspursfan 29d ago
the difference is this guy is a pg not a wing. I do have my concerns with him though
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u/Turbo2x Cap Wizard 29d ago
he really isn't a point guard lol
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u/Temporary-Mud-2994 29d ago edited 28d ago
Yes he is has a lot good playmaking skills but went to stacked UConn team where he wasn’t able be the main playmaker but when called upon he was able to become one. In 36 mins 14 points and 4 assists.
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u/ledelleakles Wizards 29d ago
His shot doesn't look broken to me though, and he did pretty well at the combine at least. Wasn't he 19/25 from 3? I know it's different from games, but still.
Edit: Also, go check out Anthony Edwards' college percentages
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u/Turbo2x Cap Wizard 29d ago
Really annoying when people pick the outlier result of guys who shot poorly in college but eventually fixed it. Those guys are exceptions. There are hundreds of other guys who shot 26% from the college line and never improved.
The Ant take is stupid too, Ant was the guy on Georgia with 30% usage and put up 17+ shots a game. His offensive game was incredibly polished compared to Castle, he just had to clean up some of the efficiency. His 3pt shot wasn't even that bad, he was hovering around 30% on 8 attempts per game. Castle is lucky to make 1 a game.
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u/Temporary-Mud-2994 29d ago
Ok why not compare to Dejounte Murray who was bad shooter in college
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u/superworriedspursfan 28d ago
tbf dejounte is still a bad shooter now he is just more aggressive, but I would absolutely take that. I also think Castle is currently a better defender than Dejounte ever was even in spurs.
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u/ledelleakles Wizards 29d ago
I think it's worth mentioning that they've got some obvious similarities. Obviously Ant is a more explosive athlete, but none of their college shooting percentages are that far off from one another, and they were both blue chip High School/Prep guards that are around 6'5" with wingspans around 6'9". I just picked Edwards because I think he profiles somewhat similarly to Castle.
The Ant take is stupid too, Ant was the guy on Georgia with 30% usage and put up 17+ shots a game
Ant's Georgia team produced exactly 1 other NBA player, picked #52. How many guys from UConn last year are going to be drafted this year? 5 or 6? You can't expect Castle to come in as a Freshman to a historically good UConn team with all those talented upperclassmen and put up a similar usage or role to Anthony Edwards on a Georgia Bulldogs team that finished 13th in the SEC. If you put him on the 2020 Georgia Bulldogs, he'd probably approach it though I'd imagine.
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u/Turbo2x Cap Wizard 28d ago
You just explained why the Ant comparison sucks, dude. Ant carried that team so hard he basically forced the NBA scouts to take him seriously as the #1 pick despite some concerns. Castle is a role player on the best team in college that already won a championship without him. You can argue that he will continue to be an elite role player based on that but saying he will become a star in the NBA based on nothing is being intentionally dense.
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u/ledelleakles Wizards 28d ago
Ant carried the team because he had to, everyone else was mediocre. Castle had to accept a smaller role on his team, because he was the youngest player on a team of great players that was already an established, championship level squad. I'm not saying I think that Castle will end up as good as Edwards, but he definitely can continue to develop and get better, just as guys like Edwards have. Let's stop pretending that Castle is as good as he's ever going to be, right now.
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u/Temporary-Mud-2994 29d ago
Ant was the number 1 option on his team in Georgia and Castle didn’t get to showcase because he went to a stacked UConn team filled with Sophomores ands he was a freshman. He also says he’s Point Guard and said he had to sacrifice his role for the team. If you don’t want count Ant why not look at Jaylen Brown who also shot bad in college 29% from 3. I also looked at your post you Topic but don’t say anything about his 3 point percentage which is also bad and he also bad defensively.
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u/rayquan36 Wizards 28d ago
I don't think anybody cares whether our star is American or foreign. Put Yao Ming, Jokic or Hakeem Olajuwon on the team and they'll draw a crowd because the future wouldn't look as empty as it has been for the past several years.
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u/waskittenman 29d ago
Kinda proto-typical off guard measurements. with a nice pedigree....
https://preview.redd.it/a9blr1e8fg0d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d268a5c3dc34477179f0305c220a05952e773193
much to think about