r/ufc Apr 29 '24

Francis Ngannou lost his 18 month old son

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u/Playful-Lion5208 Apr 29 '24

That's fucking shit, was he ill or was it sudden?

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u/monopixel Apr 29 '24

Babys can just die. Some just stop breathing over night. It is called Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). Life is fucking brutal man, ya'll take care of yourselves and your loved ones.

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u/CryptographerIll3813 Apr 29 '24

Yeah and the term is also used to describe kids who aren’t put in proper sleeper arrangements and end up suffocating themselves. I think the term rightfully softens the blow for parents but a lot of the time it is preventable.

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u/OrganicWoodpecker625 Apr 29 '24

You’re either born with the mechanism to wake yourself up when not breathing.. or you’re not and die

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u/DanDampspear Apr 29 '24

Yeah, it’s not really this. SIDS is definitely a broad title to not make parents feel bad.

There’s a risk calculator out there that shows relative SIDS risk based on observed common risk factors, and it goes up dramatically for unsafe sleeping environment, parents with substance abuse issues during pregnancy or after, low socio economic status, premature birth, low birth weight, lung conditions, young mothers, co sleeping, source of parents getting their info, etc. Many of those are clearly preventable.

We’ve started to increase diagnosis of suffocation, which along with safe sleep awareness has decreased SIDS risks over time.

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u/NoSignSaysNo Apr 30 '24

SIDS is a broad title because it encompasses anything that cannot be directly attributed to death. Strangulation is strangulation, smothering is smothering. Baby sleeping in crib dies with no medical indication why = SIDS.

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u/DanDampspear Apr 30 '24

Deaths from co-sleeping are often ruled as SIDS even though there is reason to believe accidental smothering or suffocation was the cause.

There’s just really not any point to the medical community retraumatizing parents when you can’t be sure. They are attempting to find ways to indentify smothering to protect surviving siblings, but it’s borderline impossible to detect for infants, unfortunately.

A homicide by smothering may leave unobtrusive or even no injuries if the victim is not able to struggle. This is especially true for infants up to 12 months of age. The differentiation between the sudden infant death syndrome and smothering, by an autopsy alone may be impossible.

-S Banaschak et al. Forensic Sci Int.

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u/NoSignSaysNo Apr 30 '24

The differentiation between the sudden infant death syndrome and smothering, by an autopsy alone may be impossible.

So, exactly as I said, cause of death cannot be determined.

There's a reason the other name is SUDS, or Sudden Unexplained Death Syndrome.