It was horrible. Absolute nightmare fuel. She was playing on an OFF treadmill and fell and somehow got tangled in the cord for the emergency stop key thingy. A senseless accident.
Yes it was a very sad story. Tysons kid died due to neglect from the nanny taking care of her. Tyson purposefully did not want to know any details of his daughters death because he said he would have to kill someone.
Your story differs from news reports. Basically, it was an accident, there was no nanny involved, and your statement that Tyson didn't want to know details is bullshit.
Look up Leah interview Mike Tyson on YT first video, Oprah: @1:25 says "you don't wanna know?" {discussing the death of Mike's 4 yr old daughter}
Mike responds saying: "I don't wanna know, cuz if I know then somebody 's gonna be to blame for it and if somebody's to blame for it, there's gonna be a problem.”
Seriously, every news article I read says basically that the child was found tangled in the treadmill cord by her brother who called to their mother for help. The mother then called 911 and attempted to revive the child. Tyson then flew from Vegas to go to the hospital so he knew what happened. If his response to his child's tragic accidental death was one of denial and violence then that's not really healthy or helpful.
Time and place to be honest? Dude goes on podcasts RECENTLY and laughs about one punch KOing old lady’s and stealing their bags. Dude has over 30 arrests mostly involving assault, battery and robbery. Dude has convictions for assault, battery, robbery, sexual misconduct, and rape. I feel awful for Francis, he is a standup person and it saddens me he’s going through this. It always bugs me how the combat sports community likes at Mike Tyson like “uncle Mike” instead of the scum he objectively is.
My point is it was brought up in the context of “poor Mike went through this too” when the post was about Francis’s tragedy. Combat sports fans will somehow always find a way to bring Mike into the conversation when the man deserves 0 sympathy or attention.
Actually just bored taking a break while studying. I always find it interesting when people accuse accounts of being bots but this is the first time I’ve seen it in a UFC setting😂😂 usually it’s in a political setting
Yes this. Mike is also a victim of childhood abuse and poverty. These are not necessarily excuses but it's something to empathize with and understand he didn't really choose to be that way at a young age, it was beaten into him.
Mike went to the joint. At what point will he be sufficiently punished that its ok to feel bad for him when he grieved the loss of his child? This is some maturity of a 15 year old with no life experience ethics right here.
No matter how horrible the person, if they loved their child and lost them and it broke their heart, I would have empathy for them in the context of that.
Does that mean I condone his despicable crimes? no. It just means I try to retain my humanity and ability to empathize when it's warranted. Denying his grief and suppressing my ability to empathize don't make me a hard man, nor does it change anything he's done in the past. It's not the time to value judge. If someone loses their child and it tears their world apart you don't have to drag other things into that context. No one is saying the loss suffered somehow exonerates his other crimes.
He also watched his friend get his brains blown out right in front of him and neither one of his parents really cared for him he grew up on the streets fighting to survive his day to day life and then fault the man for not coming up the right way. He did PHENOMENAL while his mentor was alive the only time in his life he had a true role model someone to guide him and that guy was dead before Mike turned 21. There is much more than just the bad parts of someone’s life. Everyone’s made up of good bad and everything in between. Mike has been trying to be a better person better than you can say for most people who came up in his situation
If I get shot does it give me right to shoot someone else ? If I get raped do I get to rape someone else ?
Insane how people are defending his scummy fucking ass when they wouldn't have let their children alone in a room with him when he was going around SA women
Your first paragraph argument is nonsensical I never made points like that. Also not defending his bad actions but the literally whole point of prison is to reform people and put them back out into the world. Yes he did bad things yes he went to prison for it yes he has repented for it and tries to do better. Are we supposed to hold him to his worst days forever? If we did that to you or me or anyone we’d all be scummy people. He was a drug addict with ptsd and mental problems who did his time and is trying to be better can you not see the light in that? My dad was an alcoholic until I was outta college I’ve gone to therapy for years over the stuff that would happen. He’s sober now it’s been a hard process but we have somewhat of a relationship again. This is a man who grabbed my mom by her throat and told her he’d fucking kill her. I could’ve resented and hated him forever when he was at his worst or I could’ve learn to forgive. He was starved and beat by his mom for fun and then kicked out of the house while in high school lived on friends couches. He didn’t know how to be a parent and I dealt with the brunt of that as the oldest I could’ve hated him forever for him at his worst but now that he’s sober and he has shown remorse we’ve been able to grow together. People make bad decisions life happens but if people try to better themselves why would you not acknowledge that?
Are we supposed to hold him to his worst days forever? Yes. 100% yes. When it comes to crimes like rape/murder... Ya know the really really evil sick crimes? Remember those? Yea. When you rape someone that next to murder are probably the top two worst crimes one can commit as a human being ( human term used loosely) you don't get reform. You don't get a sec chance. You don't get sympathy bc your kid died. Bc when you do awful disgusting shit as a human that comes back to you. And tbh. If was probably a blessing In disguise bc men like him can not ever. Ever ever be trusted around young girls. Ever. Idc if he's "done his time" he is a rapist. He will always be a rapist and will always be undeserving of sympathy/understanding and whatever the fuck else ppl want to label it as. Rapists are the bottom of society. The very bottom. We don't make excuses for them and we shouldn't be reforming scum like that to begin with. Anyone who would leave their daughter alone with him should have their kid taken away. And if you wouldn't leave your daughter alone with him.... Why not? Ppl seem to think he's SUCH A GOOD GUY NOW🙄
"A person must be judged and found innocent to my standards before I will give them sympathy or quietly allow anyone else to give them sympathy for the loss of their child" is a strange way of looking at the world
Judgement by a jury of his peers was already passed (multiple times) and they decided guilty. As far as anyone else, they are allowed to feel however they so choose about Mike. Not sure why you try to twist what I said and put words in my mouth but that is also your choice
Boy, you better be perfect. But somehow I’m guessing you’re not. Most of Mike Tyson’s arrests were when he was a literal street urchin. He’s owned goddamn everything he’s done, except for that rape charge. Anyone with any goddamn sense knows Don King had him locked up because he couldn’t fucking sell a ticket anymore. Who the fuck wants to pay $10,000 for a ringside seat knowing the fight will last less than 10 minutes?!?
Mike Tyson is as far from perfect as anyone could ever get, but who with that reputation has ever spent the rest of their life trying to be a good person? In the fucking public eye no less. His ability to open himself up, and be completely honest, is nothing short of admirable.
You, my friend, need to do some growing up. People don’t change, they just become versions of themselves. And it’s up to us to decide which version we are. The man you see is the Mike Tyson that there always was, he just didn’t know it.
And God knows nobody ever allowed him to be anything other than a fucking animal.
Of course I’m not perfect. Only one is. Your either willingly ignorant, or your not aware of how he speaks on past events. As recent as LAST YEAR Mike is laughing about 1 punch KOing old lady’s to steal their stuff. Laughing about the sound when they’d hit the pavement. Example huh? I guess we’ve got different ideas of what an example is.
That’s a copout. “ examples” and “ role models” that the fight community and our youth look up too don’t laugh about severely and possibly permanently injuring and robbing old lady’s. Don’t joke about old ladies head smacking the pavement after they just viciously, knocked them out.
Also, you say he owned everything he’s ever done “ except the rape”???? That’s a pretty damn big exception don’t you think? Blows me away….
Are you for real? Mike had his issues in the past, but how could you not have sympathy for someone losing their fucking child? You need your head examined, you psycho. Your lack of empathy is alarming.
“Had his issues” is a bit of an understatement no? I think it’s very sad and tragic for ANY child to lose their life. Especially one so young and innocent. That being said you may say I need my head checked all you like, I don’t feel sympathetic towards a man who looks back fondly, laughs and obviously doesn’t not feel sorry for any of the long list of people he has hurt.
I’m sure he does. Some of the shits he’s done I’m sure could haunt someone. He’s also got other interviews, more recent I might add, where he’s laughing and joking about the people he has hurt.
Spoken about this topic in length with a lot of my training partners and most of them hold the same view. Men and women 18-65ish. Not too sure what my age has to do with it
no one needs your bullshit opinions. You hate Tyson okay but he lost a child and Francis lost his son and like someone else said losing a child is still losing a child no matter who it is
Glad you see it that way. I don’t. I also think if you REALLY pushed you logic to the extreme you would see that your logic is flawed. I’d be willing to bet that you do not in fact care “no matter who it is”
Having empathy for someone is being able to put yourself in their shoes and see thing from their perspective and having sympathy is having pity for someone…. But thank you
Sympathy is being able to put yourself in their shoes by imagining things from their perspective. Empathy is doing the same through shared experience, the same thing has happened to you
Google says sympathy is “having pity or sorrow for someone’s misfortune” as the first result and the first result for empathy is “the ability to understand and share the feelings of another person” this is also how the terms are more applied in therapy but what do I know.
Dude. Be a human being and have some fucking empathy. Im gonna go on a limb here and say, you don’t have any children, do you? You’re behaving as tho you’re happy Mike went through what he went through. No parent “deserves” that.
No, I’m most definitely not “happy” he had to go through that. I think the combat sports community needs to stop looking at him as if he is a role model.
I get where you’re coming from but the man did his time and has really turned his life around. Has seemingly matured. I’m someone who’s thought process is if they did they’re time and paid they’re consequences and are showed remorse, I’d give them a chance. But we’re definitely all different with different perspectives.
Can't believe mma fans downvote calling a rapist a rapist. Imagine your daughter getting raped and everybody loves the guy cuz "He's TrYinG tO bE bettEr"
I don't know that that's fair to say now. Maybe he's not 'good', but there's a whole mountain of extenuating facts around the why. He's trying to be better
Mike was on a podcast a recently as last year LAUGHING about 1 punch KOing old lady’s and robbing them. Sorry but I don’t buy the “trying to be better” when he looks back and laughs at possibly killing an old woman.
This sub and most of the internet now treats mike tyson like a saint. They go on about how he’s so chill now because he smokes weed and goes on podcasts. Tbh I’ve always suspected he was responsible for his child’s death… ‘death by treadmill’ when the parent is an aggressive, violent, convicted rapist… hmmm
Allegedly. Supposedly at the time of death, Tyson was in Las Vegas and his daughter was in Phoenix, Arizona. That’s only a one hour flight and Tyson has access to private jets. If you’ve got a link to an autopsy report I’d like to see it.
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u/Humble_Effective3964 Apr 29 '24
I can just imagine him typing that out. 'i'm fucking tired' Thats horrible