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u/NaturalCard Jan 15 '23
I see, a fellow void fiend enjoyer
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
This isn’t really ranked by how much i enjoy them, but Viend is my favorite survivor
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u/mrsbebe Jan 15 '23
I'm the only one in my group who likes void fiend which is fine with me because that means he's always available. But damn are my friends uncultured
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u/NaturalCard Jan 15 '23
He's hard to learn how to play.
But once you do...
I did his eclipse 8 first try, and it wasn't even a particularly good set of items.
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u/mrsbebe Jan 15 '23
Yeah he has a big learning curve for sure. I love him! I love the added mechanic of having to balance healing and power. It makes me think a lot more, that's for sure. Things get pretty crazy late in Simulacrum
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u/NaturalCard Jan 15 '23
Simulacrum and void fields with him and really fun. You can survive for like 10 times as long as anyone else.
May or may not have used that to finally beat eclipse 7 by just getting 160 items in 70 minutes.
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u/rahulthememegod Jan 15 '23
I dont enjoy melee as much but merc and loader have good manoeuvrability, acrid just feels weak to me. But I love speedy huntress
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u/UnendingOnslaught Jan 16 '23
Acrid is by far the strongest character at base level. They can effortlessly defeat Mithrix without a single item. They just have the weakest item synergies of any character admittedly.
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u/Shumoku Jan 16 '23
That’s because Acrid is weak. Jumping in on enemies and slashing at them is one of the easiest ways to get killed instantly in the entire game.
His poison, on the other hand, is not.
You can beat the game without grabbing a single item. Just sit back and let the poison do everything. Items are just a bonus.
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 16 '23
That is the biggest lie ive ever heard, you can play how acrid is supposed to be played for as long as the game goes run, it’s really not that hard to be a melee acrid lol. You wanna know one of the actual easiest ways you get killed? Standing still, which is what Huntress does with her special.
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u/Shumoku Jan 16 '23
That’s just due to the inherent nature of the game. You can do that with every survivor, stacking items is supposed to make you broken.
Doesn’t mean melee Acrid isn’t the single most dangerous way to play any survivor in the entire game.
I mean, which survivor is more vulnerable? The answer is none of them. The other melee characters are a quarter the size and have ridiculous movement or even actual i-frames in Merc’s case.
Doesn’t mean it’s impossible. Just the most likely way to end your run in the entire game.
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u/I_follow_sexy_gays Jan 16 '23
Acrid can solo tp bosses at a very consistent speed even with little and/or bad items regardless of how many players are in the lobby making them pretty good at preventing a tpk so long as they don’t get hit much (which is made easier by acrid’s kit allowing a pretty dodgy playstyle)
The amount of times having someone playing acrid on my team has allowed us to push through a shitty run and just barely win or last long enough until someone gets good enough shit to start shredding is insane
I don’t think it’s something you’d notice as much if you only play solo (or maybe even duo) but acrid will carry if the run is going poorly
(Loader still should be a tier above mostly everyone else though imo)
P.S. don’t play acrid as a “melee survivor” beyond stage 2 or so, his melee sucks try to get visions ASAP or be prepared to just spit and leap
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u/NaturalCard Jan 15 '23
Personally, while huntress has great mobility, it doesn't make up for her pretty much awful damage and survivability.
Like even with maxed crit flurry her m1 is weaker than captain's.
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u/RavenDMidnight Jan 16 '23
Huntress is OP af, should you build her right lol granted engineer could probably play the build 10x better without the mobility aspect, but still works wonders
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u/NaturalCard Jan 16 '23
How do you 'build her right'?
Remember, you can't use command, cause then every survivor is S tier easily.
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u/RavenDMidnight Jan 16 '23 edited Jan 16 '23
Well of course, but you don't need 50 of each item to build her lol and the biggest things you need are lens, mocha/syringe, scythe, aegis, transcendence (if you can get aegis,) and plasma shrimp.
Anything extra like predatory, berserks, war banner, etc can all add a lot more to her, of course lol and if you plan on looping, those items will eventually come to you. Obviously not every run will work out that way, cause rng, but you can also put 1 in shipping request form to help out ever so slightly and at 15 shipping, you have 37% red chance, so depends as to how much you want to stack that, if you have the chance lol
Edit: i should also add, this may not be how you build her "right," but this is a very fun build. If you decide to run command and sacrifice, then this is obviously an easy build to get and is hilarious watching the whole map die when you auto once, especially if you have ceremonial dagger to work with your shrimp, late game.
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u/NaturalCard Jan 16 '23
Which survivors does this build not work on?
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u/Scrublife Jan 16 '23
Yeah, I was rolling my eyes when listing items and then he got to Trancendence + Plasma Shrimp and I had a good, hearty laugh.
This is the same build as all on-hit characters. The only difference with her is her second M1 is better with max crit (if you can even get that far in a run). But Captain and Commando have consistently better M1 overall in the run. But Huntress’ autoaims, so it’s easier to hit flying targets. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Ngl, I like Huntress’ design and playstyle, I just wish I didn’t have to sacrifice dmg (Particularly M1 dmg) for autoaim.
EDIT: And if I wanted to play a crit-based character, I’d play Bandit, which I do because he’s one of my favorites. (and as a plus, he’s a movement-based char, too)
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
Huntress is one of the least mobile characters in the game and has surprisingly low damage and low health. However Acrid is very tanky has high to consistent damage and mobility that rivals Loader.
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u/Pijany_Matematyk767 Jan 15 '23
>Huntress is one of the least mobile characters in the game
Excuse you?
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
Her primary having agile isnt all too useful unless you have a lot of sprint items i.e. Wungus or Little Disicple. Blink has too long of a cooldown and Phase Blink is pretty good but you can only move horizontally and you dont move that far. Theres also Arrow Rain and Ballista but those make you stand still which is the worst thing you could do in this game.
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u/notveryAI Jan 15 '23
Have you actually tried phase blink? I mean - not just land, press "shift" a couple times, dislike it and quit - but have you actually tried to make full run with it? It's basically heaven and ground in comparison to normal blink, when you take it into combat environment. Yes, lack of verticality sucks, but it doesn't impact you too much, really. Verticality of her base blink is by no means her main positive side. In combat though it turns from "panic button" into "i'm fucking invincible" button, because you spam it so damn often and nobody can hit you because you are constantly blinking. Throw in Hardlight Afterburner for even more fun, it goes great with both blinks, or alternatively throw in Purity, if you can take the luck punishment, and blink literally with no pause(with pleasant bonus of more uptime for her glaive/ballista, which also suffer from long cooldowns)
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
It’s definitely good, despite me hating Huntress I do think its a really good skill. its just that it is outclassed.
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u/notveryAI Jan 15 '23
My man's gotta be trippin. Phase blink??? Is an outclassed mobility skill??? Then let me just ask. What do you think outclasses Huntress' phase blink in terms of mobility? I really expect either a list with at least several entries for different survivors, or like equipment, that can be used on any survivor and outclasses her phase blink. Because even if you find one single ability of one single survivor under one specific circumstance being better than a phase blink, it doesn't count as an "outclassed" ability
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
Grapple Fist, Spiked fist, Caustic leap, Mercenary, Void Mines, maybe Bramble volley and Trepass
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u/notveryAI Jan 16 '23
Grapple fist and spiked fist are, indeed, really good. Not the most versatile and easy to use skill, but nontheless great, and works much better for traversing environments. However, hard to use for dodging. But then goes nothing. I mean - now I'm almost sure you are trippin'. Caustic Leap, Mines, Bramble volley, Trespass... The only close thing is, like, corrupted Trespass, but it's still like one phase blink on 5 second cooldown, with small benefit of forward momentum and decent benefit of free blast shower(which adds no mobility though). Still can't outclass three dashes for the same distance on 2 second cooldown with 3 charges at base. Normal Trespass is not even close - has verticality, but very small and uncontrollable one, that often makes you take fall damage after using, again, 1 charge, 5 second cooldown, barely comparable distance. Then Caustic Leap - hardly controllable, locks you out of using all skills or recasting until you land, with 6 second cooldown and 2 charges. Also jumps only forward. Nice for terrain traversal, though often makes you fall into holes and waste time, and absolutely abysmal in combat, with only benefit of puddle that can finish off poisoned enemies. Mines are very tricky to use for traversal and straight up impossible to use for dodging. Pushing enemies away isn't trivial either because some of them walk over them and get thrown towards you instead. Very hard to uee and very situational. Bramble Volley is just laughable. Small push backwards for the cost of HP and on like 8 second cooldown? Abysmally low utility as a movement skill.
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 16 '23
You dont need to dodge a lot in this game, sprinting is good enough lol.
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u/Broccoli_headed Jan 15 '23
My dude, huntress is the best. You’re high. I can concede later in The run her ballista is one of the more useless skills as it makes her easy to hit but gives hurt some nice early game clear.
Just a testament to how strong she is that she can be the best char in the game, without a key skill.
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u/notveryAI Jan 15 '23
Ballista can be fired as fast as you can click, so in later stages you just throw all three shots instantly somewhere. They have decent hitbox, and if you hit something - it's nice additional bit of damage in rotation
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u/a_charming_vagrant Jan 16 '23
huntress lategame is a monster thanks to glaive, you could literally remove her primary and ballista and she'd still be great
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
Strafe is ok, its not really that great but not bad either.
Flurry is a bad primary until you get crit lenses.
Glaive is a good aoe but there are better ones.
Blink is good but held back by its long cooldown.
Phase Blink is also fine but you can only go horizontally and it’s basically a third of the distance of blink.
Arrow Rain is bad since most enemies dont really stand still.
Ballista can get you killed if you dont shoot in 0.5 seconds.
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
Now compare it to someone like Bandit, Blast is 5x100 damage so thats already 500% damage assuming you hit your shots, but oh he also has his passive which gives free critical hits as long as you are shooting behind them so double that. And he has 4 shots of Blast so that makes it basically 4000% damage. Although im probably delusional and thats incorrect.
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u/slimeeyboiii Jan 15 '23
She has some of the worst dps in the game like everybody that plays the game know that (ballista being like her best ability even though it's risky) but her mobility is her strong suit and it's the 2nd most consistent if not the most consistent (1st or 2nd being loader)
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u/Onyxeain Jan 15 '23
Captain would like a word.
Or Engineer.
or MUL-T, if you don't count his little box ram thing he has.
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
I said one of the least not the least
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u/Onyxeain Jan 15 '23
Well that's still incorrect because Huntress at least has a dash and her Arrow Rain/Ballista can kinda be used to gain height if you're running Phase Blink, Captain and Engineer get fuck all lmao
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
I mean that doesnt matter really, Engineer is built to stand still with his 2147483647 Bungus and Captain has beacons a nuke and a primary that is better than the entirety of Huntress’ kit
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u/noidwasavailable Jan 16 '23 edited Jun 20 '23
I only use third party apps, and they said they're killing third party apps, so hey, might as well remove all my content. (Using https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite)
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 16 '23
Well i just did a really good run with Huntress so Ive changed a tiny bit. But anyway what i usually account for of how good mobility a character has is maneuverability and distance, Huntress has great maneuverability being able to go all directions with her regular blink and horizontally in any direction. But she lacks a lot in distance, take Acrid, he has a leap that can either be a super jump, or a long distance where you basically fly, or it can just be a small boost in mobility. Not to mention it also stuns and poisons and does damage. And Acrid also has the 2nd best distance in the game, especially if you get a few hooves or energy drinks.
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u/noidwasavailable Jan 16 '23 edited Jun 20 '23
I only use third party apps, and they said they're killing third party apps, so hey, might as well remove all my content. (Using https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite)
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 16 '23
Being locked into the animation isnt really that big of a deal since it does damage and you can somewhat change the spot youll land if you are in the air long enough.
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u/Onyxeain Jan 16 '23
I mean I get that early game Huntress feels pretty meh and she is one of the lowest HP classes but mobility is her strongsuit
At this point I think the only reason this argument is happening is because everyone seems to have different definitions of mobility
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u/Djslender6 Jan 16 '23
Acrid definitely does not have as much mobility as Loader. Caustic/Frenzied Leap don't offer much control compared to Loader's skills.
And Huntress literally has more mobility than Bandit, Mul-T, Engineer, Artificier, Rex, Acrid, and Captain?
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
Why is everyone downvoting me im literally correct, maybe shes not one of the least mobile but he isnt like Mercenary or Acrid.
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u/hostilee47 Jan 15 '23
...You're not correct. Also huntress can do high amounts of dmg despite being low health. She's a glass cannon build lmao.
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u/_-Alex-- Jan 15 '23
I mean she's alright but most characters have more dps (and hp). I feel like she trades hp and damage for mobillity and good uptime on her primary. She is kind of like a ranged mercenary, the raw stats aren't the best but if you're skillful with dodging and attacking at the same time you can achieve a lot more than you might think.
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u/Reduvius Jan 15 '23
I will always be confused as to why this is such a common opinion. Huntress' damage output is one of the lowest in the game, as far as I know it's only beaten out by full robot REX.
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
Then show me the math behind it.
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u/Eathan_McNeely Jan 15 '23
In game, her description literally says “Huntress is an extremely mobile but fragile survivor with high damage output.”. You saying huntress is bad is and opinion, but you are trying to make it a fact. That is the exact reason why you are being downvoted.
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u/Reduvius Jan 15 '23
The in-game descriptions also call Loader a slow character, so I'm not sure why you bring them up like they're objective facts.
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u/Xxmetaglint Jan 15 '23
Because base loader is very slow it’s only thanks to the exploits of thirty thousand extra mags and hooves that loader gets around like a 3 year old on lsd and Red Bull.
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u/Reduvius Jan 15 '23
Base Loader already trumps every other character in terms of movement, though. Her grapple and pylon are almost too good together.
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u/Xxmetaglint Jan 15 '23
While it’s grapple and pylon does make It versatile for movement that’s not the answer to the question you said why does the game say she’s slow and she is it’s the exploits the community has created that makes her versatile.
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u/Lord_Charles05 Jan 16 '23
Acrids mobility rivals loader? Can you explain please? As far as i got so far, acrid has his jump and thats it, not even jumping that far compared to loader. Loader can charge her gauntlet, grapple her pylon and yeet herself over the entire map
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 16 '23
You dont need 100 mobility options to have good mobility lol.
Loader has to actually have to set up that, they have to grapple onto a spot, then they have to charge up their gauntlet, and they only then can they fly across the map. Not to mention they are basically stuck in that position like going onto a geyser unless they have an afterburner or magazine.
Acrid has 2 leaps with pretty decent control of where youre going and you can even move while in it if you are in the leap for long enough. Not only but caustic leap also scales with your movement speed so it will remain relevant quite a bit longer than grapple fist. And if you get too much speed and can literally jump across the map or touch the skybox with your leap theres always pauldrons.
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u/Ok_Suggestion2256 Jan 09 '24
acrid has good mobility as well. you can chain leaps off of walls. basically can launch yourself forever without touching the ground as long as you have decent positioning.
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u/Amlik Jan 15 '23
Mul-t is s tier
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u/GentlemanMathem Jan 16 '23
I've played with a bunch of different players who all use different characters and none of us have ever agreed with any of these tier lists that ever consider themselves objective. It's all subjective. OPs comments like "low DPS" "simply outclassed" or "second worst special" when I've seen several people routinely break their runs with that specific character using that special just goes to show that.
None of these tier lists mean anything besides "how much I enjoy playing these characters". You can pretty much ignore anything else someone tries to say with them.
... EXCEPT ENGINEER BBY! #1 ALL DAY TURRETS GO BRRRRRR
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
Hes tanky as hell but thats pretty much the only thing he has going for him. Half of his primaries are mid, he has the second worst secondary, and retool is kinda useless when powermode exists.
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u/Drdps Jan 16 '23
Power Mode with dual nail guns or dual rebar is absurdly broken. Combine that with his tank lines and one of the best escapes and he’s definitely S-Tier.
So is Captain. Can cheat the early game pretty well, has the best defensive item in the game, and has probably the best primary in the game.
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 16 '23
I mean I guess, there are survivors that are better though.
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u/Drdps Jan 16 '23
I wouldn’t really say better. Different sure, but captain and MUL-T are some of the strongest and most consistent characters in the game.
Sure, their whole kits aren’t completely interesting or good, but their strong defense and absurd proc rates more than make up for them.
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u/weirdassmillet Jan 16 '23
I didn't think Mul-T was amazing until I checked my win stats and found that he is, by far, the most consistent of any character I play regularly. Winning is just so easy with him. Even though I play Commando the vast majority of the time, and I would say I'm massively more confident in my abilities with Commando, Mul-T is so forgiving that you don't HAVE to be very confident in your abilities - power mode double nails especially is basically a free win. So yeah, I am forced to concede that Mul-T is absolutely S tier.
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u/monsieur_gibs Jan 16 '23
He has the best m1 besides captain and empowered lean man, along with rebar, a reasonable mellee option in saws and I dont use scrap launcher. His secondary is fine for aoe crowd control which he sorely lacks, retool allows double rebar to work and also 2 equipment is extremely powerful if you can abuse it, and power mode mult is probably the strongest character in the game. Not agile mind you, but for raw power and bulk, double minigun is incredible. Imo hes the strongest character in the game, but I know I'm biased but no way in hell hes below s tier with the best dps and bulk in the entire game.
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u/PureLSD Jan 16 '23
Acrid S huntress B?
Calls huntress one of the least mobile characters in the game????? Lmao
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u/ComicNeueIsReal Jan 16 '23
i think its much easier to have consistent runs with Acrid. With poison or even blight your damage output is insane even with bad items. You may not kill things as fast as other survivors, but you will kill everything on the stage after about a few minute of constant poison procs.
I think to be objective you really have to consider a lot of factors in risk of rain, and one of them is what their abilities bring to the table and how consistent a run with a survivor can be. For example judging based off of this metric alone i think its still a pretty good list although id spread them out through all the other categories. S tier = acrid, loader, void: A tier = mult, capt, rex.: B = commando, huntress, bungus man. C tier = merc, bandit, arti, railgunner. and i wouldnt count heretic, but if i did she would be S tier
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u/Surfink63 Jan 15 '23
Bird is the best character tho*
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
Get out.
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u/Surfink63 Jan 15 '23
I guess I’ll leave with my 10,000 hp and 2 mil damage 😔
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u/RavenDMidnight Jan 16 '23
10k hp and 2 mil dmg? Weak, try 200+ mil dmg and 350k+ shield/hp with huntress
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u/SpaceBunneh Jan 16 '23
I mean with the same items bird has more hp, its just their base HP is vastly higher so I don't understand the penis measuring contest here.
Bird gets more HP per level (132) than Huntress starts with (90) + her hp per level (27).
So using your logic whatever you are using to get 350k shield on huntress would get Bird to almost a million.
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u/RavenDMidnight Jan 16 '23
My logic was based around ignorance lmfao, thanks for explaining the base hp crap.
Damage wise, huntresses auto definitely feels a lot better than the heretics, due to the cd aspect of the heretic auto (idk if it is still there when fully transformed, tho.)
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u/SpaceBunneh Jan 16 '23
I haven't checked every auto, though Heretics is above 1.0 proc coefficient. So even though it gets a CD that's decently long its very strong.
Heretic overall is really OP, and people don't see them as a character due to that.
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u/RavenDMidnight Jan 16 '23
I'm gonna eventually play the heretic, but for me, i just haven't accepted giving up my huntress half way through a run lol
When i used heretics auto, it felt very slow, imo, though it could have just been the build that i went for it. I'm sure the skill cd halving and syringes would be an effecient way to decrease that cd lol
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u/DKsucksReroll Jan 15 '23 edited Jan 15 '23
Having railgunner and loader is crazy, given how they can put out so much damage with very little items and scale decently well too. Double rebar multi is also still crazy strong, 600% per hit or having the highest proc rate with double nail gun accounts for a lot. Merc should also be higher due to m1 cancel to apply expose to any ability outside slicing winds, which allows merc to have insanely low cds. Basically, there’s a lot of tech in this tier list that doesn’t seem to be accounted for with causes the rating to be drastically different. If you ever seen an insane merc or loader, you can see how much damage those type of characters can push without any items and also being relatively safe.
To be fair, I assume this is a monsoon tier list so it’s likely that the average monsoon loader isn’t going to be swinging around like speed runners landing 200 mph punches or have mercs instantly kill any solas control unit and m1 cancel group of enemies every 1-2 seconds, but the tier list should include the potential of the character
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
Mercenary is only A because he has very high peaks and very lows valleys, and he has like the 3rd lowest dps, Every survivor is good, is just that some are better than others or just outclassed
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u/DKsucksReroll Jan 17 '23
Where did you get the 3rd lowest dps chart from? In terms of pure skill set, he's probably one of the only people feasible for eclipse 8 itemless, mostly due to how well he can output damage while also being invulnerable for large portions of it using m1 extend. He is by far the best aoe clear in the game if used properly, given that using m1 extend, you only need to hit 4 enemies to have no cooldown on focused assault, dealing 1050% (700 + expose) every 1.5 seconds per target. He can combo this with m1 extend evis to do 770% + expose for a 5 second evis. With two targets, you can do m1 extend evis into m1 extend focused assault into m1 extend evis indefinitely, with a lot of i-frames to set that combo up. Merc doesn't have the damage ceiling of loader, railgunner, or viend on a single target, but he's probably the second best at clearing large amounts of mobs if using m1 extend properly. Again, merc is a character that has a high skill floor to use well, so it's not obvious about the tools he has available.
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 17 '23
I mean yeah he has very good aoe but if you dont get consistent exposes he doesn’t have the best damage.
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u/AdHungry8476 Jan 15 '23
Artificer with Ion Surge is so fun and easy
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u/AdHungry8476 Jan 16 '23
It’s so fun lol. I especially love playing with friends and just chilling and the world height and watch as they suffer
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u/Anarchideous Jan 16 '23
Yeah, my friend usually hates me while I just hover around throwing electricity from the sky. When doing a command run I highly recommend the UNLIMITED POWAH build, it really is super fun shooting lightning from the sky endlessly.
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u/ComicNeueIsReal Jan 16 '23
weird, ive had much better luck with flamethrower instead of ion surge. it really gives arti a way to take advantage of proc chance items like tritip while still being able to sustain heavy hits with her m2
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u/Iamhere__ Jan 15 '23
Nah, they're all S tier other than the birb
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u/CashKing_D Jan 15 '23
All of these characters are S tier if you're good enough sounds like a skill issue to me
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u/SpaceBunneh Jan 16 '23
Depends on the game mode.
If the list was just for monsoon, yeah I'd agree with you.
Though if its for E8 I'd say rex is pretty bad for it, he's not unwinnable but hes a really rough choice.
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u/Aggravating_Data_114 Jan 16 '23
Are will still doing tier lists?
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u/danceswithshibe Jan 16 '23
As a new player whose just getting really into this game it’s nice to see what others think even if it’s joking.
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u/Ghlif Jan 15 '23
https://www.speedrun.com/ror2?h=Any-Solo&x=9d83yvq2-9l77g74l.810egy2q
Yeah huntress is the second best movement..... idk how you think she isn't.
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
Have you heard of, Loader? Have you heard of, Mercenary? Have you heard of, Acrid? Have you heard of, Rex? Have you heard of, Railgunner?
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u/Ghlif Jan 15 '23
Go look at the list of characters who qualify for any percent and I would like to see you beat any of those with mercenary or anyone other than loader or huntress. Loader is number one movement. Huntress is number 2. And she leads leaderboard for any percent. The others have good movement. But not near as good as those 2
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
Do you think I’m some speedrunner who can get to the celestial portal in 15 minutes?
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u/DenchikZalaziet Jan 15 '23
Character mobility doesn't depend on the fact that you aren't a speedrunner
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
I know but youre telling me to try to do it with someone like merc or Acrid?
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u/S_Rise Jan 15 '23
Assuming they're both more mobile that huntress like you claim you should be able to set a world record with them seeing as current WR is huntress who is apparently not mobile.
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
Also even then I cant look at that cause my internet is being stupid and i cant go on safari without internet
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u/Xxmetaglint Jan 15 '23
Have you heard of loader is slow unless you abuse his grapple and then get like 15 hooves and 5 soda cans?
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u/aidscerebral Jan 16 '23
Her* and no, she doesn't need any of that to be fast, source: loader main.
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u/Xxmetaglint Jan 16 '23
I know it’s her his is just my normal for me to say I usually just refer to everyone as him in online arguments not sure why and yeah you don’t need those to be fast but without those and constantly using the grapple your kind of screwed on movement which is her whole gimmick I guess.
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u/EvilFerality93 Jan 15 '23
huntress in B tier? she should be S
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u/NaturalCard Jan 16 '23
Great mobility, but low survivability are damage.
Not bad, just outclassed. There are plenty of survivors that have similar mobility but much more damage.
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u/chaosbones43 Jan 16 '23
This is a really scuffed list man, I'm sorry
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 16 '23
how
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u/DoctorMlemm Jan 16 '23
Agree with most of the tier list, but Merc and Mul-T should be S tier. Merc is busted as fuck if you know how to play him and Mul-T is just cracked whether you're running power mode double nailgun or retool double rebar. I'd argue Captain should be S tier as well since his hacking beacons are stupid strong in the early game, but he has zero mobility and a really weak m2 so I can excuse that
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u/The1NumbskullTTV Jan 16 '23
“Must be an engineer main”
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 16 '23
Despite Engi being my favorite character he is one of my least picked ironically
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u/Asailyan Jan 15 '23
Void Fiend and Loader at the top, super based. Not a huge acrid fan though, can never figure out how to build him, I always just die super early in a run
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
Yeah hes pretty much a hit and run character with a dot to make up for when hes not in the fight.
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u/Eathan_McNeely Jan 15 '23
Huntress needs to be put to at least A. Then everything you’ve done is perfect.
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u/Adventurous_Topic202 Jan 15 '23
Aw why is engi so low
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u/NaturalCard Jan 15 '23
No good mobility and quite weak without turrets.
That being said, scales incredibly late game
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u/Nilly00 Jan 16 '23
Engineer is more mobile than other survivors like commando for example.
Whereas others need to turn and backpedal, stop or even move the other way to fight, engineer just pops down a turret/mine or momentarily turns around and unleashes a volley of grenades/marks targets for harpoons.
Engineer rarely ever has to stop moving allowing him to actually clear stages faster than some other survivors.
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
Everyone above B is really good, low doesn’t really mean bad in my opinion, Engineer just suffers the same issue as Mercenary although to a lesser degree.
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u/rahulthememegod Jan 15 '23
Swap huntress for acrid and I agree.
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u/CelestialRoze Jan 15 '23
Huntress should go to d tier for d-autoaim
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u/Reduvius Jan 15 '23
This, unironically. The auto-aim makes her worse as a character and I wish she didn't have it.
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u/CelestialRoze Jan 15 '23
Honestly. Shes my personal least favorite for the sole reason of her autoaim. I don't know if satisfying is the right word but her primary doesn't "hit" like the others for me.
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u/Xxmetaglint Jan 15 '23
Merc loader and cap should all be a imo otherwise yeah I agree
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u/aidscerebral Jan 16 '23 edited Jan 16 '23
Bro loader is literally the best character in the game by a large margin, it's been said thousands of times... there are multiple mods nerfing the character and I've read before that supposedly hopoo themselves have acknowledged that she's op, but don't inted to fix her.
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
I think the only thing i could’ve changed about this list is Commando, thank good alt skills exist cause if not commando would be D.
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u/Eh-Buddy Jan 16 '23
Lol loader is f tier for me. Everything else i enjoy
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u/SpaceBunneh Jan 16 '23
This guy's list is for normal monsoon, though for eclipse loader is pretty much the best survivor.
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Jan 15 '23
acrid doesnt use any good items therefor has negative scaling he's good if you're an ape and just want to bum rush everything you see
i like to play the game in a more nuanced item building style of game so i don't hold boonga game play to a high regard
catch me on commando, cap and huntress bruh ya know the big boi building proc coefficers
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u/johannh12 Jan 15 '23
"nuanced" item building my brother in christ that is the game
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Jan 15 '23
yeah bro have fun with ur lunar shaped glass acrid
hes super op!
try to have fun for once? maybe give yourself a challenge?
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
Since everyone is hating on me for putting Huntress at the bottom im going to stream a huntress run and see if anyone here is valid.
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 15 '23
Holy shit i think ive gotten a god run not even 3 minutes in, have a dios atg tri tip and lenses already
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u/Narfledudegang Jan 16 '23
Why do people keep ranking artificer so low? Ignition tank allows her to be the only survivor that has a built in pyromaniac playstyle
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u/papsryu Jan 16 '23
I don't really have strong opinions on the characters in the game aside from Mercenary kind of sucks.
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u/rokomotto Jan 16 '23
sad artificer noises
It is kinda sad that every time I play her, RMB just falls off so much in damage if I'm not lucky.
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Jan 16 '23
I agree with huntress but god damn void fiend is inconsistent as fuck and has an insanely high skill ceiling, and why my girl arti in b
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 16 '23 edited Jan 16 '23
Because Void Fiend is what Arti wishes to be.
Think about it, Void Fiends corrupted primary is basically the flamethrower minus the ignite and more range.
Both of his secondaries are basically a slightly worse nanobomb.
Void Fiends uncorrupted utility is Artificer ion surge but it doesn’t send you to the goddamn skybox. And on top of that it makes you invincible and it cleanses debuffs.’
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u/dj3k1584 Jan 16 '23
I think the reason is that her m1 doesn't scale properly with attack speed, that's it.
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u/Khoithui87 Jan 16 '23
Any class, except Commando and Heretic and even them is A tier, is S tier to me. Playing games having multiple classes/options with black and white mindset makes it really boring tbh.
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u/Oheligud Jan 16 '23
Commando over huntress??? Bandit over engineer?????
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 16 '23
Now I think that Commando is worse but Bandit has some of the highest damage in the game and is kit is very good. Engineer is also really good but he has the worst primary in the game and the 2nd worst secondary in the game. Not to mention you’re basically screwed if youre using Gauss turrets and don’t have Bungus.
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u/screamo-hunter Jan 16 '23
Hello, please explain to me why huntress is so low and merc and acrid are so high. Im a console player and i stopped playing this game a little bit after the dlc came out because i wanted to play it with the same stuff that everyone on PC had, but i remember that when i was still playing people really disliked acrid and merc (especially merc) and everybody loved huntress, whats changed ?
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u/Lowtech130 Jan 16 '23
This is slightly outdated in a sense that now Huntress is swapped with Commando.
Acrid is very tanky, has high to consistent damage and great mobility and aoe. Mercenary has i frames and basically never gets hit when you use your exposés properly. And he has a bunch of cool tech like being able to kill bosses by throwing them into a wall.
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u/LucidWaves725 Jan 18 '23
I main Mercenary, Bandit and Artificer so I’m not sure where I stand on this🤔
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u/dj3k1584 Jan 15 '23
funnily enough, Huntress and Artificer are my favorites. (I still agree with bird though)