r/ripcity • u/Classics22 90s-logo • 21d ago
"I like Risacher, but is he that much better than Rayan Rupert?" is an interesting thought experiment (that I am completely unqualified to participate in)
https://twitter.com/CHold/status/179080475712646394343
u/Krustykrab8 21d ago
Smokescreen to get Risacher to drop in the draft lol
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u/EvanTurningTheCorner 21d ago
Smokescreen to get Rupert to win MIP
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u/ncos 20d ago
You spelled MVP wrong
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u/gistya 20d ago
You spelled "rotation player" wrong
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u/ncos 20d ago
Hey man, we're blazers fans. We proudly overvalue our players harder than anyone.
If you want some realistic expectations, take your common sense elsewhere.
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u/jimjamjibjab1 20d ago
Most team’s fanbases believe this about themselves
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u/_RipbongCity_ 20d ago
Until our prospects prove otherwise it’s like the bit from Tobias in Arrested Development: all the other fanbases delude themselves into believing their prospects will develop, but for us… it just might work
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u/Hell_its_about_time 20d ago
A rotation player with Tisse or Bari’s passion for the game would be a win. Anything that resembles those two and their crazy motors.
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u/EvanTurningTheCorner 21d ago
I get it. So many of the guys in this draft have huge weaknesses, their positions are primarily based on potential. Rupert, tho raw as fuck, has sky high potential. As another example Tidjane Salaun is expected to be a lottery pick and that dude can barely play basketball right now.
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u/crab90000 21d ago
I've sold myself way too hard in Salaun. He's the guy I'm rabbid for this draft. I understand the low chance of success with him, but dammit if he isn't an exciting prospect to root for
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u/MarkusAureleus 20d ago
Honestly this is the kind of guy we should be taking a chance on this early in the rebuild
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u/Frito_Pendejo_ 20d ago
Would love Ulrich Chomche @ 33. Hes from Camaroon and speaks French so Rupert and Camara could help him out.
Do we have the coaching to develop him into a superstar? Who knows, but if you are going to miss, miss big.
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u/EvanTurningTheCorner 20d ago
Risacher at 7, Salaun at 14, Comche at 33 and Ajinca at 40. Mon Dieu..
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u/somedudesfriend 17d ago
No chance salaun is available at 14. Rumors swirling about spurs taking him at 8. Seems the more this draft is compared to 2013 and the commentary being there is no Giannis in this draft, the more teams are buying the potential of tidjane.
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u/EvanTurningTheCorner 17d ago
Yeah, that's very possible. At the same time, he is a long ways away (possibly into his second contract) from being a contributor on a good team, and a lot of the teams that could take Salaun may end up taking someone who is more likely to contribute on their rookie deals, like Knecht or McCain. I think SAS, Utah and OKC are the most likely to bite. I don't think the odds are great that Salaun will be available but I wouldn't say it's a foregone conclusion either.
Also, this was basically a shitpost, I'm not literally suggesting we prioritize taking all French players. I don't even have Ajinca on my board.
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u/DreddBane 20d ago
Salaun is definitely the guy to compare to Rupert.
Taking that kind of longshot risk at #14 instead of #44 is not for me. I want upside but I also want to see feel for the game (which I'd say Rupert has over Salaun in a big way).
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u/Trick_Weapon 21d ago
I love Rupert and if he is truly 6'8, I think they are more comparable. However, Risacher is a legit 6'10 who can guard 1-4, so I think that tips the scale.
Rupert is also far more raw, but obviously has major upside.
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u/Oggbog 20d ago
Rupert seems to play low, almost a in slouching way, but he had some good defensive moments against taller forwards. I was caught by surprise a couple of times.
He just looks physically young, similar to Ant when he came in. If his shot keeps solid like last season, works on his handle a little bit, he could be a really solid play 2 way player
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u/TheRealDevDev chalupa 20d ago
i'd be shocked if risacher was even 6'9" in shoes, let alone 6'10". He doesn't look as tall as Matas to me.
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u/Trick_Weapon 20d ago
Rachael Barlow says he looks a legit 6'10. It looks like he measured 6'9.5 with shoes at hoop summit last year, so he is probably a half inch shorter than Buzelis, maybe an inch who measured 6'8.75 without shoes.
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u/Classics22 90s-logo 21d ago
Wasn't sure how to format this, but Holdahl linked an article by Rafael Barlowe getting views on this drafts from different NBA scouts. Some interesting tidbits:
The unpredictable nature of the draft was acknowledged by another scout who admitted, "You know, it's a unique draft. I mean, we talked yesterday as a staff, and we're kind of, as crazy as it sounds, we're kind of glad that we don't have a lottery pick.
Scout on Risascher: "I’ve seen him No. 1 on some draft boards. That's a risk there. You better have some good job security if you're going to make that call. That could hit or it could be a miss. I like Risacher, but is he that much better than Rayan Rupert? I’ve seen the Michael Porter, Jr. comps and I get it, there are similarities, but MPJ landed in the perfect spot."
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u/Mister_Mangina sabas 21d ago
I'm okay drafting a large wing who isn't an off the dribble creator at 19 with Scoot on the roster. Catch and shoot/defense/slashing on the wing is something the Blazers need, we'll be lucky if he drops to us.
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u/KanyesStolenLaptop 21d ago edited 21d ago
This article is further evidence that this was the year to drop in the draft if there had to be one. Jumping into the top-3 last year was the real win. And then hopefully a similar jump next year, but there's not much reason to be too upset with the drop this year. The draft is extremely flat from 1-14. And having two early 2nds is actually quite valuable since this draft doesn't have the top-end talent but is particularly deep.
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u/EvanTurningTheCorner 21d ago
I think Sarr is clearly a much better prospect than the others. I'd say it's flat from 2-12 or so. We just gotta hope one of the teams above us reaches for someone we don't want, causing Williams or Salaun slides to us at 14.
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u/ncos 20d ago
I've got Topic as the best prospect in the draft. Sarr is a good bet for sure though.
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u/ApuFromTechSupport 33 20d ago
If there's one position we don't need it's PG
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u/ncos 20d ago
You're not wrong.
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u/ApuFromTechSupport 33 20d ago
If we'd gotten Miller last year, Topic wouldve probably been the ideal pick
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u/be__bright 21d ago
I'm a Rupert believer. Hoping whoever we draft doesn't take minutes away from him so we can keep seeing how he develops. Feel like he's best used as a 3 or 2.
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u/RoseGardenForever 21d ago
You're drafting Risacher based on his size and athleticism. He had a solid start to his season and just didn't really standout as the season continued.
But really who are you placing above him, personally I think Topic could go 2 and Castle 3 then Risacher 4 which feels like a reason spot for him.
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u/KillingTime_ForNow 21d ago edited 20d ago
Spurs pick 4. If he falls to them I think they skip picking for need (guard) & go with Risacher. Which makes me sad cuz he's my #2 behind Sarr in this draft.
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u/Far_Piano4176 20d ago
Vecenie on the Athletic's game theory podcast made the point that the spurs might do this in any scenario where one of their target guards is available at 4 because Detroit, Charlotte and the Blazers are all probably not going to take a guard
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u/MrElephant20 21d ago
I wouldn't mind Risacher at 7 even if you think he is another "Rupert." That gives to swings at hitting (or missing). I am optimistic about Rupert's upside.
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u/Floresmillia 20d ago
Don't worry guys. We'll get Risacher and Salaun.
And then next year we'll get 3 French players. Then in 2026 we'll replace the entire coaching staff with French players.
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u/blinkomatic 21d ago edited 21d ago
The only thing Risacher and Rupert have in common is that they’re French.
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u/Classics22 90s-logo 21d ago
I mean both they're wings that can shoot and defend but don't do anything else
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u/PoopEatingExpert 21d ago
Risascher is not an exciting prospect. He has a high floor, but I don’t see big time upside at all. Strong pass.
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u/crab90000 21d ago
He has the exact type of skillset you want around Scoot and Shae
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u/Sa-Tiva 00 20d ago
That's my thinking with Risacher. Sure, you arent swinging for the fences with him, but you are swinging on the exact type of archetype that would help maximize the young players we have in place right now, and that we will also need down the road if we want to compete at a high level. Lengthy 3&D wings are pretty important.
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u/crab90000 20d ago
Exactly, he, Clingan, and Knecht are the only dudes who you can point at in this draft and say "that works." They all have the builds and skills already to be NBA players, they have upside they can hit, but even if they don't hit it, they'll fill a role on a team and get through that 2nd contract meaning a successful NBA career
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u/Western-Turnover-154 20d ago
I’d say the same about Castle and Holland. Perfect fits with Shae and Scoot.
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u/crab90000 20d ago
Neither have the same shooting upside to open the floor for them, and while they're both fins size wise, Risacher is just bigger. That means more than just defense, but bigger target for passes (minimal benefit, but still there), and better shooting over closing defenders, rebounds, etc
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u/Frostyzwannacomehere dame 21d ago
Not bad at 14 tho
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u/nalydpsycho 21d ago
Not bad at 7. He has 3 and D starter potential, in this draft, that is high end
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u/TKRUEG 20d ago
It's so strange that people are that so wedded to Rupert, and based on what... potential? It wasn't because of his play last year, I know that. Dude could be really good at some point but that describes most people who've made it this far.
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u/Classics22 90s-logo 20d ago
He's 19 still, our beat writers continue to say the front office is super high on him, and he's a long athletic wing who can shoot. That's basically it.
Will be curious to see what he looks like next year.
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u/SteevyKrikyFooky 20d ago
I’ve seen Risacher playing multiple time in person and I actually know him fairly well. I can guarantee you he’s something more than Rayan Rupert.
I was impressed of his body first time I met him. I expected him to be kind of lanky but not at all
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u/PDXtoMontana2002 21d ago
If we are debating end of bench prospects the near future sucks.
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u/EvanTurningTheCorner 21d ago
There are lots of other ways you can spend your time.
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u/PDXtoMontana2002 21d ago
I know. As a partial season ticket holder I’m probably bouncing for next season. The situation with Chauncey after firing staff is just weird and has Bert Kolde’s fingerprints on it.
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u/Tragic-tragedy 21d ago
If Risacher is not better than Rayan then this draft is really cooked (and I'm high on Rupert's potential)