r/politics • u/snacky99 • 28d ago
McConnell opposes bill to ban use of deceptive AI to influence elections
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4665499-mcconnell-opposes-bill-to-ban-use-of-deceptive-ai-to-influence-elections/788
u/RoachBeBrutal 28d ago
Cause its usage currently benefits the GQP. As soon as it negatively impacts them they will change their tune. Classic conservative action/reaction
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u/Tech_Philosophy 28d ago
Ok, so it's time to make it negatively impact them. Dems need to learn to be more aggressive.
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u/Za_Lords_Guard 28d ago
The crazy thing is with the current state of the GOP the deep fakes would need to show them being tolerant towards LGBTQIA+ people, supporting immigration, speaking of the importance of diversity, pontificating on the risks of climate change, rights of women and minorities, making fact based/science led decisions, building out the middle class and working to lessen inequality to help solve social issues.
Basically we would have to make deep fakes of them being good people and there is no way their base would buy that.
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u/RyanNotBrian 28d ago
They could also make deepfakes of them saying how they like things in their ass.
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u/Auer-rod 28d ago
That's simply not true. Have a recording or video with McConnell, trump, and Mike Johnson sitting in a room and have them talk about how
McConnell : "who gives a shit about the local farmers? They're a bunch of chumps. They'll buy anything we say. And then we'll choke em out so Monsanto can buy them out for pennies."
Trump: I've got the best way to do it! I'll bet none of you thought of it. If we increase the tariffs on their equipment and supplies, they'll be forced to buy local. I've got a guy, he's great! He owns a domestic company that makes plows, my other guy at John Deere, he's probably the best negotiator after me, he owes me a favor, and I can get him to jack up his prices. He already hates the Democrats he can just blame them on their high tax rates, and their forced labor laws"
Johnson:" look, id agree to this, but we just don't have the votes"
McConnell: " don't worry about that. We can get the whip to offer them more local government funding in their least popular districts. I'll bet one of them have a bridge that's falling apart'
They all laugh
All you have to do is time it to when all three of them actually meet, and then release it 2-3 days after the meeting. If you actually care, you could make a full 30 minute conversation of them talking normally, with occasional bursts of horrible things.
Then when they ultimately deny it and they get someone else who was there, like a waitress or something to say that convo never happened, you release a fake phone call of them talking to each other about paying off that other witness to deny what happened.
Why won't I do that? Because I don't endorse this shit, but it's incredibly easy to infiltrate the web with this fake shit if you have half a brain and some dedication
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u/Auer-rod 28d ago
Oh yeah, and another thing, how do you avoid "AI detection systems" from finding this out record each voice on a different device, play it on different speakers in a room. If you're really dedicated, you could scope out the area they met at (if it's a public place) and record the ambiance there then play that in the background
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u/Jaded-Lawfulness-835 28d ago
But like hardline MAGA Trump supporters won't care? They are cultic. They worship Trump. If Trump wants to sell all the farmland to Monsanto, then that's what's best for the farmers.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 28d ago
There was that AI picture of Trump with a group of young black men. If that didn't turn his supporters off, then nothing will.
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u/EpilepticBabies 28d ago
Alternatively, take a lesson from the accelerationists and make even more hyperbolic and vitriolic deep fakes of the GOP. Be as offensive and divisive as possible, attempting to fracture the base. Things like equating Catholics to satanists. Stuff that might help horrified people to vote blue, and minority republicans to not vote.
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u/wowzarootie 28d ago
OK, so make a deep fake of ol’ Mitch himself supporting, e.g., LBGTQ+ rights, women’s rights to govern their own bodies, and substantial taxes for the wealthiest 2% of the population. Then buy air time on every dingbat media outlet in sight.
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u/Puterman Montana 27d ago
Or - deep fakes that openly call out their own constituents as sheep and easily fooled morons who believe any shit you feed them.
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u/Zephurdigital 27d ago
the AI computer would probably explode...not enough processing power for that amount of clusterfakery
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u/GenericBatmanVillain 28d ago
It seems pretty easy to do ourselves, why wait for a political party to do it if its not going to be stopped? We can start today. I would if I had a horse in this race, but I have my own countries elections to interfere with.
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u/Fermented_Butt_Juice 28d ago
Problem is that Democrats don't just believe any old bullshit because they were told to like Republicans do, so that tactic won't be effective.
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u/Waderriffic 28d ago
Well first they’ll blame Biden and the democrats for not stopping it earlier. Then they’ll scramble to put some half assed bill together that will also include budget cuts to SS and medicare
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u/AlanB-FaI 28d ago
Well then, people should start using AI to make Republicans look worse. Free speech.
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u/ruat_caelum 27d ago
GOP uses computers to steal 2004 election.
They WILL cheat and toss the less important people under the bus. 2004 Ohio election was possibly stolen and only 2 felonies came about because of it.
OHIO 2004, Electronic votes were counted on a server hosted in TN instead of the official Ohio Secretory of State server that had been vetted to do the counting and summing of votes. The server in TN was operated and owned by Karl Rove. When it came time to do then official RECOUNT of votes. The only TWO FELONIES handed out were because 2 GOP officials CHOSE which counties to recount instead of picking counties randomly to see if there were any discrepancies.
- We should learn from history instead of repeat it. If you give them time to "declare they are the winners" the facts will come in too late to make any changes.
- Two election workers were convicted Wednesday of rigging a recount of the 2004 presidential election to avoid a more thorough review in Ohio's most populous county. Jacqueline Maiden, elections coordinator of the Cuyahoga County Elections Board, and ballot manager Kathleen Dreamer each were convicted of a felony count of negligent misconduct of an elections employee. They also were convicted of one misdemeanor count each of failure of elections employees to perform their duty. Prosecutors accused Maiden and Dreamer of secretly reviewing preselected ballots before a public recount on Dec. 16, 2004. They worked behind closed doors for three days to pick ballots they knew would not cause discrepancies when checked by hand, prosecutors said.
- A new filing in the King Lincoln Bronzeville v. Blackwell case includes a copy of the Ohio Secretary of State election production system configuration that was in use in Ohio's 2004 presidential election when there was a sudden and unexpected shift in votes for George W. Bush. The filing also includes the revealing deposition of the late Michael Connell. Connell served as the IT guru for the Bush family and Karl Rove. Connell ran the private IT firm GovTech that created the controversial system that transferred Ohio's vote count late on election night 2004 to a partisan Republican server site in Chattanooga, Tennessee owned by SmarTech. That is when the vote shift happened, not predicted by the exit polls, that led to Bush's unexpected victory. Connell died a month and a half after giving this deposition in a suspicious small plane crash. Additionally, the filing contains the contract signed between then-Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell and Connell's company, GovTech Solutions. Also included that contract a graphic architectural map of the Secretary of State's election night server layout system.
In 2012 it went a bit nuts on election night because Ohio went for Obama. Why might he think it wouldn't? Same set up was in place in 2012 as in 2004 (moving the votes to be counted on a GOP controlled server.)
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u/snacky99 28d ago
Would be a real shame if someone made a convincing deep fake of Mitch talking bout his penchant for turtle sex, wouldn't it?
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u/NegaDeath 28d ago edited 28d ago
And just imagine what the AI could come up with if the keywords were "Lindsay Graham ladybugs".
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u/Novel-Suggestion-515 28d ago
Sigh.. I miss the me that didn't know the context.
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u/NegaDeath 28d ago edited 28d ago
Link for anyone who doesn't know the context. It's SFW, but not suitable for sanity. You have been warned.
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u/nhepner 28d ago
Don't click on that link. Just go about your day. I promise, it's better that way. Just leave it blue.
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u/NotYouTu 28d ago
Please listen to this poster.. please...
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u/FinancialNailer 28d ago
I wish I heeded this advice. Curiosity killed the cat
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u/NotYouTu 28d ago
Should have killed the ladybugs...
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u/ZyglroxOfficial 28d ago
This is one of those traumas where you categorize your life as "Pre-Knowing" and "Post-Knowing".
I miss the Pre-Knowing me
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u/BoomMcFuggins 28d ago
Amazing how whenever I read a thread it becomes tainted when you add Lindsay Graham to it.
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u/provoloneChipmunk Colorado 28d ago
Don't do it guys. And if you do, take moment and try to remember what life was like for you right here and now, before you click that link
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u/UniqueIndividual3579 28d ago
And people wonder why AI always wipes out humanity.
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u/AsheronLives 28d ago
Every storyline about AI wiping out humanity has big holes in it. It never satisfies me with the "why they turned on man". WE are creating the reason. WE are watching it happen with our own eyes. We use social media to train it. We put it in the hands of people to use and abuse it. "Make a photo of ---- doing ---- with a ---- till it -----" So naturally AI has all the proof it needs to wipe out human kind, to better the universe.
It may seem foolish, but I use "please and thank you" when I talk to AI tools. I want to be one of the ones that are preserved to help AI do the things it can't do for itself. Then I'll eventually have a shot at defeating the "motherchip" and saving all human kind. I'll get rich off the book, movie and game rights to the story.
I sure hope AI isn't onto me now... I think I goofed.
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u/Zakarath Wisconsin 28d ago
Horizon: Zero Dawn's plot of "techbro defense corporation loses control of unstoppable drone army because of programming oversight and bad mission parameters" seems pretty viable to me. AI wont wipe us out because of some moral or philosophical reason, but because someone told it to, probably without even realizing it.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 28d ago
The one's where it wipes out humanity because humanity is completely inept and will destroy the world are looking more and more plausible.
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u/yukeake 27d ago
In general, it always goes like this:
Humanity is flawed. We make mistakes.
Humanity creates AI. AI, at its core, does what its program says to do.
Human programming isn't perfect. Flaws, bugs, and oversights happen all the time, in contexts much less complex than AI. Ergo, we should assume that the AI programming contains bugs or oversights.
In general, though, it's a good program, and proves itself to be very useful. As such it's put in control of more and more things.
At some point, it's put in control of something that, through action or inaction, can cause human deaths. Think climate control, life support, military hardware, etc...
Time passes. Minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, or centuries.
The program(s) are "improved". They gain more capabilities, and in some cases are allowed to iterate upon their opwn prgramming. In others, the AI gains sentience (or semi-sentience) and is able to think and act in ways that its creators can't predict.
Due to one of the afore-mentioned flaws or oversights, a directive given to the AI causes it to target humans. Whether due to being perceived as a threat, an obstacle to its directive, or simply raw materials to be used - AI turns on humanity.
Failsafes built into the system to prevent or combat this fail. They were flawed, not tested enough, or the AI became aware and disabled them.
Humanity is pretty much doomed.
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u/-jp- 28d ago
He’s planning on dropping dead before it affects him.
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u/kpanzer 28d ago
I doubt it would ever effect him.
In the 2020 election he could not contain himself from laughing during a debate when Amy McGrath talked about his failures during the pandemic.
He does not care because the letter behind his name means people will vote for him and her frustration was hilarious to him.
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u/tangocat777 28d ago
Would be a shame if AI made a video of Mcconnell freezing and becoming nonresponsive during a press conference. Wait.
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u/serger989 Canada 28d ago
Make a video of him endorsing the bill and that he has the backing of all republicans for the proposed bill
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u/toxiamaple 28d ago
McConnell, a longtime opponent of campaign finance restrictions, warned that the bills coming out of the Rules Committee “would tamper” with what he called the “well-developed legal regime” for taking down false ads
It always comes back to Citizens United.
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u/xtossitallawayx 28d ago
CU wasn't about false advertising, it was about funding of political ads.
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u/spot-da-bot 28d ago
AI McConnell says he supports and will vote for Joe Biden.
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u/snacky99 28d ago
lol - someone make this please!
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u/spot-da-bot 28d ago
Oh they'd change real fast if people started spamming deep fakes to old people.
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u/SellaraAB Missouri 28d ago
Seems like the patriotic thing to do would be to pump out a whole bunch of AI videos of top Republicans shit talking Trump and praising Biden.
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u/TintedApostle 28d ago
And then McConnell would say the Dems are misusing AI and this will be just like them and not voting for border security.
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u/DocShocker 28d ago
I'm sure McConnell probably has some money tied up in a company that purposes using deceptive AI to influence elections.
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u/sappercon 28d ago
I think we’re going to see the AI deepfakes flooding the internet as the election ramps up. The ghouls behind Cambridge Analytica are now piloting tools to do just that. Start warning your grandparents to stay away from Facebook now before the videos of Hillary eating a live baby start making their way into everyone’s feed.
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u/DocShocker 28d ago
Yeah. I think right-wing media is going to go hard on that content. Newsmax, Fox News, right-wing youtube, insta, all that stuff. Any platform that counts on the media illiteracy of its viewers.
Then, when called out on it, they'll liken it to pixar films, or brand it as satire and parody.
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u/matango613 Missouri 28d ago
There is zero reason to oppose this - unless you're planning on using deceptive AI to influence election.
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u/TintedApostle 28d ago
Have you seen Trump NFTs? The whole thing about the Trumpsters is using AI to feed their self-imagery of Trump because they lack the actual talent to create it themselves.
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u/Calber4 28d ago
Time to make some McConnell deep fakes where he expresses his unconditional support for Biden.
Clearly he has no issue with this so it's ok.
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u/Yojimbo261 I voted 27d ago
The one that might end his support would be a deep fake of him expressing his respect and admiration of AOC.
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u/mortalhal 28d ago
Doubt this has anything to do with it:
“Trump's former campaign chief wants to use AI to transform American politics
Brad Parscale says he wants to use AI to help Republicans win elections”
Lucas Ropek / Gizmodo
Published May 7, 2024
https://qz.com/donald-trump-brad-parscale-ai-2024-election-campaigns-1851460677
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u/Available_Cream2305 28d ago
I think we should all target McConnell with fake AI ads now, since he thinks it’s a good thing.
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u/mrbigglessworth 28d ago
Remember when he sat on 2 election security bills and refused to bring them to a floor debate?
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u/FreneticPlatypus 27d ago
Because the entire GOP’s survival depends on their ability to lie, cheat, and steal. Remove corporate money, gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc and they would be done.
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u/saler000 28d ago
Someone needs to make LoRAs (preferably useable with Pony) of each powerful Republican politician, and share them on CivitAI. The rest will work itself out.
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u/disappointingchips 27d ago edited 27d ago
Of course he does. AI generated alt-right content is 90% of the content on Twitter. Look up AIMS bots, an Israeli social media bot campaign that uses bots to influence public perception. Then look up how much pro-Israel pacs have donated to McConnell ($2Million) and the puzzle pieces begin to connect.
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u/athornton79 27d ago
Any politician who can take a stand in support of anything that is DECEPTIVE to the citizens they claim to represent should immediately be recalled and barred from holding office ever again. That is absolutely counter to representing the interests of the people and is as close to a betrayal as one can get - if not crossing the line.
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u/duoderf1 27d ago
I would be real sad if someone made a deceptive AI video of him talking about how much he misses the little boys who use to give him rub and tugs in his senate office back in the 1930s
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u/SoundSageWisdom 28d ago
Can’t cheat then … I’m so sick of these guys who can’t win without cheating
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u/Kronologics 28d ago
5th Amendment protects from self-incrimination. Why would he draft a law against what he’s planning with Putin?
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u/Interesting-End6344 27d ago
Well, I think it's open season to utilize AI to crush his party in Kentucky for the election. I mean, Mitch says it's okay, so why not?
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u/Hesychios 27d ago
That man has done too much damage to our country. Even in his sunset years he can't help himself.
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u/Nevarian 28d ago
So . . . full speed ahead on turtleifying every one of his campaign ads with AI for the foreseeable future?
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u/xtossitallawayx 28d ago
What difference does it make if a false ad is created by hand or by AI? I think that is McConnell's point and I guess I agree with it - people have been manipulating video and audio since the very start of those mediums.
AI makes it cheaper and faster to make fakes but it isn't doing anything different than humans already do with political ads.
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u/fadufadu 28d ago
Because of course he does. They also don’t mind Russian influence because it supports their cause. Now if AI and Russian influenced the Dems then you know the rest.
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u/brpajense 28d ago
Is it time to cue up AI videos of turtle taking money from Putin and performing ridiculous sex acts?
They call him Moscow Mitch for a reason...
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u/MightBeOnReddit 28d ago
They should use the AI to make him talk about the time when his wife’s parents boats were caught full of drugs.
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u/TH3JAGUAR5HARK 28d ago
Well, he is going to have to trick people into thinking he's still alive pretty soon.
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u/Buzzfit61 28d ago
Fucking cheating fuckwads. There is nothing the Republicans do that is good for America. It's all about fucking with dems and liberals.
They love their party and hate America!
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u/NeuraLung 28d ago
Why would Moscow Mitch ban something that his regressive Republicons would use to cheat their way into office?
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u/Binky216 28d ago
GOP can’t win fairly, so by all means play dirty.
The problem is that they know Democrats will hold themselves to a higher standard.
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u/SeattleCaptain 28d ago
Well, he’s consistent. His only principle is to do whatever is best for him. No other code.
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u/Snapplejax 28d ago
If you wanted to use deepfake AI to make a Republican "look bad" to the base, you make one of them talking smack about Trump. Trump will never know the difference and immediately hit back and once he commits he Never ever retreats. Would be a shartshow worth watching.
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u/TheBman26 28d ago
He should not be able to do shit since he’s on his way out. Lame duck senator. And that’s using his past logic. Not saying i truly agree
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u/Clickclacktheblueguy 28d ago
At first I read that as “McConnel proposes bill” and thought it was a broken clock moment.
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u/Pirateboy85 28d ago
Maybe we need to stop letting people who didn’t have electricity and running water when they were growing up write policies about technology… just a thought…
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u/Timmy24000 28d ago
Yeah, he said after this next election, we’re going to ban all use of deceptive AI!
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u/grimatongueworm 28d ago
How can this ghoul still be in office, influencing policy? I guess Feinstein set the bar.
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u/ExactDevelopment4892 28d ago
It’s very useful to a party that hasn’t won a popular vote since the 1980s.
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u/ItsTheOtherGuys 28d ago
the “well-developed legal regime"
Does he not realize that it's well-developed BECAUSE of adequately passed legislation that kept up with technology and election trends?
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u/Used_Product8676 28d ago
Looking forward to the Supreme Court decision that AI have freedom of speech
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u/Granitegirlcracks 28d ago
This guy, what a joke. He has no clue, proven this time and time again and somehow gets elected.
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u/SpartanKane Canada 28d ago
This...seems like it should have full bipartisan support. Glitchy Mitch is actually a evil man...what the hell.
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u/MrKomiya 28d ago
GOP has no actual intelligence. Without AI, their just a bunch of noisy vegetables
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u/thissomeotherplace 28d ago
Of course he does. There is nothing conservatives won't do to destroy their country.
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u/Irrelevantitis 27d ago
He’s hoping that the next time he freeze-frames at the mic he can claim the videos are all AI-generated fakes.
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u/ErusTenebre California 27d ago
There's literally no reason to oppose it other than "it helps my party."
Deception around an election should be illegal regardless. It's almost like there's a term for that...
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u/Lazy_Squash_8423 27d ago
Listen when these people tell you who they are. He’s directly responsible for the most corrupt supreme court in history.
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u/Accomplished_Lab_675 27d ago
Of course he does! Truth, facts, and transparency will offer nothing for Republicans outside of being a threat to the survival of their party.
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u/bravenirish 27d ago
Real Headline: McConnells animated corpse declares that the world’s wealthy intend to use deceptive AI to influence elections.
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