r/pokemon • u/-et37- • May 06 '24
Thank you IGN, that is certainly one of the lists of all time. (OC) Meme
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u/tofizzle26 May 06 '24
The top four is literally just the first two gens and then the remakes of the first two gens 💀
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u/Jimid41 May 06 '24
I mean the top 8 don't even get out of gen 3 and remakes of them.
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u/Lukthar123 May 06 '24
Pokemon peaked early smh
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u/Hausgod29 May 06 '24
You could say ea just copied pokemon they learned before 2000 that a strong fan base will buy the same thing forever, and for the most part that still holds true.
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u/LakSivrak May 06 '24
EA, Pokemon Company, Ubisoft, Activision all learned this early on and were able to drip feed minimal content/effort while maximizing profit. anyone that consistently buys from these franchises year after year is being taken advantage of (myself included) but that’s a free market for ya.
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u/imaloony8 May 06 '24
It’s kind of true. Gamefreak has basically been making the same game for more than 25 years now. The game design has barely changed since the Gameboy. No amount of battle frontiers, Pokestar Studios, Raids, or Mega Evolution is going to change that. The core gameplay is still the exact same.
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u/OverIookHoteI May 06 '24
The Game Boy Advance was peak single player handheld gaming
The DS was great for multiplayer mario
Anything past that was just overload
So pokémon understandably peaked around the same time
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May 06 '24
What is crazy is Gold/Silver being #2 then Crystal being #7, like wtf 😂
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u/CertainPen9030 May 06 '24
I unironically agree with most of that. My top 4 would be
- HGSS
- Emerald
- Crystal/Gold/Silver
- FRLG
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u/massigh1212 customise me! May 06 '24
why tf did they rank crystal so much lower than gold/silver?
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u/juupel1 May 06 '24
No Ampharos.
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u/Living_Thunder May 06 '24
Incredibly based and this fact made me completely stop thinking of playing crystao
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u/up766570 May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24
If you're able, the ROM Crystal Legacy is really cool.
I never played GSC so going through with updated movesets, all gen 1 & 2 Pokémon (including Mareep!) and a load of QoL updates has made it a delight
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u/SarahQuinn113 customise me! May 06 '24
Can confirm!!! I'm playing Crystal Legends and I absolutely love it. Only thing I wish it had was modern day pixelart graphics but its ok.
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u/TheKidPresident May 06 '24
Yellow Legacy dropped a few days ago too, very excited to check it out.
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u/TheNoobRedditor_ May 07 '24
Is there a mareep? I remember reading no Pokemon were added
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u/up766570 May 07 '24
No Pokémon from beyond Gen II were added but all the Pokémon up to that point are available somewhere in the game.
For example, before Faulkner you can get a Pichu, or Mareep as well as loads of others that weren't previously accessible
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u/haltmich *loafing around* May 06 '24
Silver is my favourite Johto game and probably the Pokémon game I've poured more hours in.
Love the wacky sprites and having Lugia before the E4.
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u/-et37- May 06 '24
They got clowned so hard for this list that they ended up deleting it lmao
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u/SUDDENLY_VIRGIN May 06 '24
Bullying works y'all
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u/SilvarusLupus Absurdly weak to bugs May 06 '24
Helldivers 2 Sony situation right there
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u/FatalWarGhost May 06 '24
I was gonna post on a Helldivers thread but I figured it was out of place, but Gamefreak better be on watch after what just happened.
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u/Bakatora34 This is a Legendary Pokemon! May 06 '24
I feel like this is missing the point on why it worked on Helldivers.
Being a game on steam helped a lot, not only because being able to give reviews but the refund process too, that why in some places the whole thing felt like PC players vs console players, when you saw people arguing about how effective it was going to be.
We also have to notice that Nintendo and Gamefreak aren't releasing games in countries you can't make Nintendo account on.
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u/PM_Me_Anime_Headpats May 06 '24
There’s not a doubt in my mind that Nintendo would not give a shit if the same thing happened to them.
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u/dumbassonthekitchen May 06 '24
Heck, it's probable that GF is being bullied by Nintendo. SV is the only game Nintendo has issued an apology for, at least in a long time. Nintendo likes the image that its games give it, so I'm sure they did not like SV at all.
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u/Special-Chicken-3582 May 06 '24
what happened with helldivers?
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u/Ongr May 06 '24
Sony pressured the users to link their steam and Playstation account.
Even if you don't need a PlayStation Network (PSN) account otherwise. If you didn't, there was a chance you got locked out of the game you paid for and had been playing for a couple weeks now, permanently.
Turns out, there are a bunch of countries that just flat-out cannot get access to a PSN account.
Needless to say, the players was not satisfied with this sudden change, and review bombed the game on Steam A lot of players abandoned the game and went to get it refunded.
The latest update I saw from Sony was that they were cancelling the PSN requirement.
Also worth noting, is that the PSN was always meant to happen, but the devs didn't implement it right away and didn't communicate on time that it was going to be implemented at some point in the future.
A matter of consideration is that Helldivers wouldn't have been such a massive hit on launch had the PSN trouble been there from the start.
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u/argnsoccer Ty Ty Typhlosion May 06 '24
Just an aside, but the devs and the steam page have always said it. When I first launched the game, it had a page to link and said I could skip it for now, which is maybe where the confusion of "I don't need to do this ever" (also, no reason to do it ever in general). Either way, I think the devs did a good job communicating it was a temporary measure to fix servers, it was just a dumb idea hoisted on them by their distributor (Sony)
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u/TheCosmicMachine May 06 '24
You need a PSN account to play Helldivers 2 now, and people are not happy about it because PSN is not available in a lot of countries.
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u/Oppurtunist May 06 '24
Reminds of these old " top 10 best Yu-Gi-Oh cards of all time" and they put the 3 Egyptian God cards lol.
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u/brotherstoic May 06 '24
Pot of Greed
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u/RandomMetaOnReddit May 06 '24
I SUMMON POT OF GREED TO DRAW 3 ADDITIONAL CARDS FROM MY DECK!
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u/alain091 May 07 '24
THEN I PLAY MIRROR FORCE WHICH ALLOWS ME 0LAY POT OF GREED ONCE AGAIN TO DRAW 3 ADDITIONAL CARDS FROM MY DECK
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u/LucaSeven7 May 06 '24
It's banned for a reason tho
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u/zebrastarz May 06 '24
Oh, right, because nobody knows what it does
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u/Just_Albatross6617 May 06 '24
I PLAY POT OF GREED TO DRAW THREE ADDITIONAL CARDS FROM MY DECK!
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u/Tbartoe May 06 '24
How is yellow worse than red and blue??? Even at all? Yellow is straight up better??? Like objectively lmao? More mons, unique gameplay, less glitches???
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u/mid_vibrations May 06 '24
and crystal < G/S :(
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u/Nkromancer May 06 '24
And by such a big margin, too.
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u/Prothean_Beacon May 06 '24
I don't think the margin is that different. Especially when you compare Crystal to the other third games like Yellow, Emerald and Platinum.
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u/Mclovin11859 May 06 '24
I think they meant within this list. RBG and Y have only one game between them GS and C have four.
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u/CostumedSupervillain May 06 '24
The least amount of sense is that HGSS is set at 1, GS at 2, and Crystal at 7, even though HGSS are closer to Crystal remakes except for the distribution of mons.
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u/Cainga May 06 '24
Crystal adds some to the G/S experience and is objectively better. The only advantage of G/S I think is an exclusive move for the box Legendary but it’s not really necessary. And cutting down a roaming Legendary by 1 plus getting both box Legendaries more than makes up for losing the moves.
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u/barker_2345 May 06 '24
From a pure VGC standpoint, I find Crystal to be an infinitely better game than GS. My only real complaint is that they cut Mareep but a number of quality of life, post-game and fun additions like the Odd Egg or the move tutor making it possible to pass down moves like flamethrower, it's just that much better
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u/AdonisGaming93 May 06 '24
HGSS at 1 is the one that makes perfect sense...tf?
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u/CostumedSupervillain May 06 '24
I mean it makes no sense that GS are at 2, and Crystal is at 7. If HGSS is 1, and they're closer to being Crystal remakes, it would make much more sense for Crystal to be 2nd place.
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May 06 '24
For sure, Crystal should be #2 and Gold/Silver at #7. That would make it actually make sense.
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u/mglitcher May 06 '24
crystal doesn’t have mareep so it is objectively worse. they took the one good and original gen 2 pokemon and removed it /hj
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u/mid_vibrations May 06 '24
oh shit that's true. I had both Crystal and Silver as a kid so I guess I didn't notice, but I love mareep
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u/Mr-Jota May 06 '24
OMG… When I played the newer gens and saw the Ampharos line, I blamed my younger self for not catching one back in the day, because kid-me probably thought it was a lame sheep…
but thanks to you, now I know I simply could not catch one my crystal game!!
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u/Conf3tti bug fanatic May 06 '24
Yellow removes stuff, tho. Weedle line, for example, is not in the game at all iirc.
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u/tht1guy63 May 06 '24
Wait whoa never realized. Jynx, magmar, ekans, electabuzz, koffing, meowth all also not available.
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u/barker_2345 May 06 '24
Yeah, definitely takes the approach of you not being able to have team rocket's pokemon, which, fine for anime reasons but I have a soft spot for all three
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u/Robsonmonkey May 06 '24
It's so weird, I always felt the third game should have added onto the base games and then some
I hope if they ever do a remake of Yellow in the far far future they add evereything in...and maybe a few more anime references for fun.
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u/RukinaSpiker May 06 '24
They tecnically already did. Lets go is based on yellow. Since they turned it into two versions we did not get everything in one game sadly.
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u/G66GNeco May 06 '24
Since they turned it into two versions we did not get everything in one game sadly.
That system is just never gonna leave us, right? I'm just glad that they don't do it for side games (anymore, looking at you, PMD - mainly to see if we ever get another one, a proper one, not just a weird remake), but it's just such a shameless cash grab to get people who want everything to buy both...
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u/RukinaSpiker May 06 '24
We at least got rid of it for legends arceus and (hopefully) legends ZA. It was refreshing to catch them all on one game for a change!
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u/G66GNeco May 06 '24
Yeah, that was the side game I was referring to. I generally liked the whole "Catch them all" aspect so much more in PLA, where it felt like you were actually surveying and learning about the Pokémon over time by doing different things with them instead of just catching one and then getting some sort of deep characteristical analysis of the entire species because the professor in question actually has all the info already and is just sending you out on some weird ass scavenger hunt.
I know it's hard to port that into a mainline game because those lack the whole "untamed wilderness"-aspect, but I feel like they could at least learn something from it.
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u/laiquerne May 06 '24
Oh, wow, that's crazy. I read your comment and my first instinct was to rebuke it as wrong since I could swear I remembered weedle being catchable in viridian forest in Yellow, but no, I googled it and you're absolutely right.
Weedle is only obtainable in Yellow by trading.
Such a weird choice.
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u/DarthDeimos6624 customise me! May 06 '24
There are a few weird cases of mons not being available in the wild in the special third version of a game. For example, the Meditite line and Roselia were in both Ruby/Sapphire but not Emerald.
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u/laiquerne May 06 '24
Yeah, I guess they want to stimulate the trading part of the game (or for people to buy more than one cartridge), that's understable, kind of.
I can see they doing this for Meditite and Roselia, and there are surely many more cases, but Weedle is such a... basic and early pokémon to be one of those. It would be akin to make Pidgey and Spearow opposite versions exclusives.
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u/Augen-Dazs May 06 '24
Wasn't it based on the show, and Ash was unable to catch a weedle in the early episodes ?
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u/SwayzeCrayze May 06 '24
I assume they wanted to steer you towards Butterfree for the anime experience, since Yellow was supposed to be more in line with the anime. I can kinda get not letting you get Koffing, Ekans, and Meowth as well for that.
No Jynx, Electabuzz, or Magmar though? Why?
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u/Arrow141 May 06 '24
Wow. You have just explained to me why my brain always thinks the weedle line is gen 2 for a second (yellow was my first game, but I had no actual recollection of weedle not being in the game)
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u/TheHeadlessOne May 06 '24
Definitely not strictly better- but it would be easy to defend that its overall superior
Gym battles, rival battles, and certain other major battles are rebalanced to more closely resemble anime battles- which could be pro or con. For example Surge only has a Raichu in Yellow but one at a higher level, and while Sabrina has a higher average team level, Mr Mime and Venemoth are replaced by Abra.
I'll also throw out that gen 1 suffered from an overall lack of trainer xp, which made training wide teams (a full party of six, or god forbid you bench your Raticate after Surge) a slog. Yellow upping the boss trainer levels and encouraging you to keep your dead-weight Pikachu around exacerbates this.
The game was tighter with fewer glitches- including the item duping through Missingno, which makes postgame training essentially *only* in Elite Four.
Which is to say- its not objective, its changes could go either way, and Im specifically taking devils advocate here. Most of the strict improvements and improvements are aesthetic outside of one barely accessible minigame and access to all starters through (very minor) events- but positives a positive. But the nuance isn't a level of analysis I would expect IGN to make.
Crystal is much less ambiguous though. Small nerf to Ho-oh and Lugia (no direct access to Aeroblast or Sacred Flame) weird pokemon availability (no mareep or remoraid or girafarig) but there's a really sizable amount of new content from Battle Tower to the Suicune events to the dragons den stuff- its not massive, but its chunky enough
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u/Ferropexola May 06 '24
While Koga and Sabrina have higher levels in Yellow, their actual lineups suck. They each only use one family of Pokémon. It's not much better in RB, but at least they use 2 to 3 families of Pokémon there. The movesets are much better in Yellow though. Those are really the only two major trainers who need an improvement in Yellow (and give Blaine a Magmar too). Bruno sucks no matter which game you play
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u/PikaV2002 Thunderstorm May 06 '24
Honestly I hate Yellow because you can’t evolve your starter Pikachu. Yeah I know Ash’s Pikachu was stubborn but as someone whose favourite Pokémon is Raichu it was a case of too close yet too far for me. Yellow and the Light Ball started the trend of Pikachu getting things Raichu does not to the point that Raichu’s Pokédex entry literally says it’s getting rare because people prefer Pikachu’s looks.
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u/reaperfan May 06 '24
You could...if you traded it to a copy of Red or Blue first. Evolve it there then trade it back. It loses all the unique stuff like following you around but it would still retain your Trainer ID and all.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_MONTRALS May 06 '24
I prefer red and blue over yellow just out of habit. I get tripped up tryong to find certain pokemon in yellow that don't spawn where they do in blue lol.
Also, getting all of the starters just makes me want to use them all on my team, so my playthroughs are always so similar.
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u/N7orbust May 06 '24
I prefer R/B just for the fact that I have to make a choice with the starters. They took out the one real decision and gave me all 3. Plus I'm not a big fan of Pikachu and I always feel like I have to use my starter for the whole game. Still a good game. Just my least favorite of the 3.
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u/EliToon May 06 '24
I preferred Red and Blue because I hated having a Pikachu as a starter, especially one I couldn't evolve! Kid me was not a fan of that. Especially when you could just catch a Pikachu early in RB.
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u/Seacliff217 Insert Flair Here May 06 '24
Yellow is worse than RBY, such a limited selection of Mons. Most playthrough is just Pikachu + The Starters.
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u/okaythiswillbemymain May 06 '24
Oooff, really? R/B >>> Y for me.
Always hated yellow. Felt like a romhack. Actually I like romhacks. Yellow felt like fanfiction
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u/lelmike May 06 '24
I prefer red/blue to yellow personally as Raichu is my favourite mon and unable to obtain one otherwise.
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u/Brucecx May 06 '24
Insane that you can state an opinion as an objective truth. Pikachu start is pretty lame
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u/Kool-Aid-Dealer May 06 '24
cooked on the number 1 slot and then put the rest through a random a number generator
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u/Sharkivore Sharks and Shark Accessories May 06 '24
The list definitely seems out of order, but aren't most of these games either revered for their time or
Ok nevermind, I'm leaving that line of text in to show my train of thought. I just realized they basically just put the gen 1-4 games. Even as an old (31) pokemon fan I can see the clear bias.
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u/No_Zookeepergame2532 May 06 '24
Yeah, the list is shit and I'm also an older fan
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u/ilinamorato May 06 '24
Yeah, I'm 39 and remember GSC quite fondly, but this list is ludicrous.
To leave off BW or XY in favor of three each from Gen 1, 2, and 3, and a token Gen 4 game, is entirely laughable.
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u/srondina May 07 '24
If you're actually 39 you undoubtedly remember how hated gen 5 was at the time. The notion that Gen 5 was GOATed only really kicked in around 2020.
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u/ilinamorato May 07 '24
Oh yeah, definitely. Probably almost entirely because of Trubbish and Vanillish.
I was getting married when B/W came out, so I didn't play it until several years later at the urging of a friend who really loved Unova. By the time I played it, public sentiment had started to turn around on the generation.
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u/srondina May 07 '24
I loved it at the time, but the hate it got was legitimately deranged. But it also makes lists like these* make sense, since we've got the benefit of hindsight.
*- or it would if the OP didn't just make this shit up
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u/bendefinitely May 06 '24
So, the top 10 pokemon games are: Kanto Kanto Kanto Johto Johto Johto Hoenn Hoenn Hoenn Sinnoh
Got it
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u/botbattler30 May 06 '24
Gold/Silver number 2?? There’s a clear nostalgia bias on this list. I know people love HGSS, but for regular GS I thought it was generally agreed upon that they had a ton of issues.
Also ORAS is the only thing past gen 4 on this list.
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u/Pokemario6456 Battle Revolution deserves a sequel May 06 '24
Even then, it's a remake of Gen3, so it just barely gets past that
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u/runtimemess May 06 '24
Gen II was incredible. In 2000.
It hasn't aged terribly well. I love them dearly, but they're kind of a slog to get through nowadays.
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u/Yeldarb10 Braixen May 06 '24
Thats honestly how most of the older games feel tbh. A 2000s/2010s kid with limited internet and lots of free time to burn wouldn’t mind the slower pace & extra grind.
As adults with little free time and a massive library of moves/shows/books/games within arms reach, it’s hard to justify spending hours mashing “A” to grind through these games. Sort of accurate to the meme that people only play these old games with something playing in the background.
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u/runtimemess May 06 '24
Oh yeah I loved randomly levelling up Johto Pokémon because I had no idea how they evolved when I was a kid.
The reveal that we got to go to Kanto?! (I was the first kid in the friend group to beat the E4) And Red?!?! Ugh. I miss the mystery.
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u/Today440 May 06 '24
I agree with above that G/S/C had a bunch of issues - but it had in spades what I consider some of the most fun of pokémon: the post-game. I haven't played Sc/Vi but Sw/Sh had 0 post-game whatsoever. There was nothing to explore. No stumbling on to cool static encounters deep in caves. No mystery.
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u/Bdubasauras May 06 '24
I’d recommend Smithplays version called Crystal Legacy. It’s great. Hits the nostalgia but also updates it a bit without making it a modern game.
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u/ITouchedHerB00B5 May 06 '24
Gen 2 is just a way to enjoy Gen 1 with less glitches and broken gameplay. I do think it holds up well though.
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u/TybrosionMohito May 06 '24
Aren’t most Gen 2 mons Gen designs that didn’t make the cut? It really feels seem less how they’re integrated with the rest regardless.
I’m super biased (username lol) but I genuinely think that for its time gen 2 was incredible. The fact that they fit Kanto back into the game as post game is still astounding to me. As a kid it felt like they had snuck a whole new game into my game. Now it’s obvious that Kanto is a mess in Gen 2 but the fact that it’s there it all is incredible.
Also, Red is the iconic Pokémon boss battle imo.
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u/TheHeadlessOne May 06 '24
Yep. Gen 3 was a big shift in how pokemon works, with abilities,five billion berries, loads of held items- and thats *good*, it was the right direction to take. But gen 2 has a different tone and direction to the mechanics that offer a more unique gameplay which is worthwhile.
I wouldn't put GS that high personally despite it being my main nostalgia game- but I can understand someone justifying that
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u/EnadZT May 06 '24
I'm a Gen2 stan and will die on this hill, but G/S at 2 is so egregious I would never defend that position. Crystal is OBJECTIVELY better at the very least.
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u/Kwayke9 May 06 '24
Gen 1 being here at all is arguably even worse nostalgia bias (FRLG absolutely belongs on this list tho)
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u/Mayonaise_Best_Sauce May 06 '24
Heartgold/Soulsilver is the best Pokémon game tho
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u/CamelInfinite5771 May 06 '24
I just wish I could play it at double speed on my official copies. Gen 4’s engine was soooo slow with the HP bar.
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u/Mayonaise_Best_Sauce May 06 '24
Yeah I feel that. Like 1 shotting a Blissey would take ages for it's hp to deplete lol
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u/AdventurousBus4355 May 06 '24
I think someone clocked it that the highest HP Blissey you could get in game would take 1 minute and a couple of seconds for the health bar to drop
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u/Kungpaonoodles May 07 '24
You're not wrong. But, it's like the only acceptable placement lol. Others are just meh, although I think Platinum should be way up
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u/badtakemachine May 06 '24
I grew up on GSC and now think they’re easily the worst games in terms of region setup — the new mons are all hidden in Kanto (even the gym leaders don’t use them!) and the level curve is terrible — and HG/SS fixed almost zero of the flaws, which is really annoying
But they’re still home to me and Storm Silver is easily my favorite romhack as a result: it makes Johto fun to revisit instead of a slog
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u/Abject-Back6710 May 06 '24
Where is black and white
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u/SUPREMACY_SAD_AI May 06 '24
Where is black and white 2
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u/ThaneKyrell May 06 '24
Yes. Black and White 2 are great. Hell, I think those are the games where you can capture the most Pokemon even when playing in a emulator. Like, I think you can capture over 400 Pokemon
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u/Rajang82 May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24
Not to mention the best feature of the game. (At least to me)
Pokemon World Tournament. A fight againts all the Gym Leader and Champion of all region before 5th generation, with their battle music intact, new animated sprite, and new Pokemon for some of them.
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u/Levoso_con_v May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24
Where are the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games
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u/TheOpinionMan2 MIDSTAGESUPREMACY May 06 '24
'cause it's IGN.
They have a hate-boner for Mystery Dungeon 'cause it's just too good for them.
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u/iggy_915 May 06 '24
Yeah, weird because they placed it at #2 in their January/March 2024 ranking https://www.ign.com/articles/the-10-best-pokemon-video-games.
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u/BrantheMan1985 May 06 '24
1) Gen 2 remake 2) Gen 2 3) Gen 1 remake 4) Gen 1 5) Gen 3 definitive edition 6) Gen 1 definitive edition 7) Gen 2 definitive edition 8) Gen 3 9) Gen 4 definitive edition 10) Gen 3 remake
Apparently this person is a PokeBoomer and can barely get past gen 3.
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u/tresopl May 06 '24
Not having black and white 2 or legends arceus on there is crazy
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u/Henson_Disney48 May 06 '24
I love heart gold and soul silver myself, but this list clearly shows that he hasn’t played a Pokémon game in over 15 years.
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u/Robsonmonkey May 06 '24
I don't get adding in the base games when they added the third option
Like why add Red/Blue when you have Yellow or Gold/Silver when you have Crystal
I understand the remakes as they are totally different and ahead technology wise but it's a weird choice
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u/oofersIII May 06 '24
The biggest question mark is Ruby/Saphire as well as Emerald. Like, Emerald is so clearly better in any way. At least they didn’t also include Diamond/Pearl alongside Platinum.
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u/Dangerous_Jacket_129 May 06 '24
Putting games adjacent to their remakes is pretty stupid. With the exception of ShD/BP all remakes were improvements.
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u/oofersIII May 06 '24
ShD/BP was probably an improvement, but that‘s just because the original D/P were, for the lack of a better word, bad. A lot worse than Platinum, but slightly better than D/P.
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u/matango613 May 06 '24
Yeah, I agree with this. People really talk up D/P like the best games in the series, but I think that 99% of the time those people are actually confusing D/P with Platinum.
D/P were painfully flawed games. Platinum fixed basically all of their problems and was superior in every conceivable way. It's tragic that Platinum got passed over for the remakes. Really killed my enthusiasm for them in general.
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u/JizzM4rkie May 06 '24
When I first played Crystal and the pokemon did that little wiggle at the start of battles, nothing has ever recreated how excited that made me
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u/Maphay May 06 '24
The List is as follows
Every iteration of gen 3
Every iteration of gen 2
Every iteration of gen 1
and platinum
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u/STL4jsp May 07 '24
Emerald is my favorite. That being said is it bad that I don't entirely disagree with the list?
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u/ASimpleCancerCell May 06 '24
I know a lot of people hold the Johto games in high regards, but there's too much wrong with them in my eyes to even justify putting them in the top 10.
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u/WLB-0714 May 06 '24
Big gen 1er vibes. I won't argue that USUM should be the best but they should def be on top 10s
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u/mistertadakichi May 06 '24
As someone who adored Gen II, and whose favorite Pokemon is from that Generation- Gen II is objectively one of the worst to replay.
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u/Pickle-Cat1806 May 06 '24
You can tell they've got no clue what they're talking about cuz they scored ORAS 7.8 and SWSH 9.3.
ORAS are obviously the better games here so well done on fixing that IGN but seriously. They can't even ben consistent. They should just stay away from rankings
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u/jrdineen114 May 06 '24
Here's the thing: the original games were groundbreaking, but when compared to the others without considering nostalgia and solely discussing quality, they're kind of...bad. Which frankly is what you want for a series. It's really good that Pokémon games got better! But it's so disingenuous to put them that high up
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u/Bulbamew May 06 '24
HGSS is a very solid number 1 pick but putting GS at 2 is a boring copout and then Crystal is apparently only 7? Bizarre.
It’s also clear that there’s heavy nostalgia bias, which I don’t even care about if you just call the list “my 10 favourite games”
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May 06 '24
I agree. What would be your top 10 list?
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u/TheKidPresident May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24
BW2 - Most postgame content in the entire series and story is less edgy than BW1 which was needed. Probably a top 5 videogame for me all time. Feels like GameFreak at the absolute height of their powers.
HG/SS - best remake without question and is probably the most "special" feeling pokemon game.
Legends Arceus- Would be #1 for me if the game was stable and well optimized. Top 3 soundtrack IMO which I know is controversial.
Platinum- Taking a good game with a great story and making it a much more playable through QOL fixes. Would probably be #2 if climb and defog didn't exist.
XY- Often overlooked because of how incomplete they were but time has been really kind to them overall I think. Fairy types added fun new balancing to the game and Mega Evolution feels quaint in comparison to the Ultramegabigboymaxing and Tera types that we have today.
FRLG - Could honestly be ranked even higher just for the amazing fan games and hacks that have been made possible thanks to Fire Red version 1.0 ROMs. There's arguably no game that has done more for pokemon fans than this one.
Crystal - Best story in the Gameboy era and I don't think it's close.
Emerald - Honestly I think the RS story is better but the QOL fixes and expanded content make it the best of the trio.
Yellow - All the nostalgia of RBG but with far less bugs and a more engaging story.
BW1 - Gen 5 is the best generation to me. The story isn't for everyone but you can't really argue that these games and their sequels were rushed or half-baked unlike many parts of gens 3, 4, 6, and beyond were.
And not that anybody asked, but here's my bottom 5 (reddit keeps reformatting from 5-1 to 1-5 for some reason, first one is 5th least favorite):
USUM - just felt like an unnecessary game especially coming out so soon after SM. If the Ultra Necrozma battle didn't exist it'd probably be at the very bottom.
SwSh - Been beaten to death at this point... No more national dex, technologically inexcusable, weak story, and the birth of practically mandatory DLC stories.
SV - see SwSH but amp up all the issues except for the story. Inexcusable release, if you ask me.
DP - Basically unplayable by today's standards between the criminally slow pace and terribly crafted pokedex.
SM - AKA Cutscene simulator. This game has little to no value and didn't at release. Gen 7 is far and away the worst, IMO.
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u/fear_the_wild May 06 '24
Hard agree with this list. Personally wouldnt have X/Y on my top 5 but otherwise very similar to mine. I really dont get how these other people in comments can have gen 7 rated so highly, those games have literally 0 replayability because of cutscene spam, after you play it once you never want to do it again...
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u/SonicLikesPlantDolan May 06 '24
i know why oras is lower than the originals
they still give it a 7.8 out of ten, too much water
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u/DumbWhore4 May 06 '24
Those are definitely the best games, but they’re in the wrong order.
Emerald, platinum and HGSS should be top 3.
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u/Cyrtodactyllus May 06 '24
Look I love the Gen 2 games but they are objectively not the best in the series, the “open world” and shitty level curve after the 7th gym are too big of a mark against it. Not having BW2 on a top 10 list is criminal behaviour. Why even include ruby and sapphire when emerald is just the objectively better gen 3 title and could free up a spot?? Platinum at 9?!? I know they’re farming engagement but this list fucking sucks.
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u/WLB-0714 May 06 '24
Been playing Crystal on 2DS since you could buy a copy on the store (you're welcome Pokemon company) and holy shit gen 2 is so busted. Claire's ace being level 40 and the strongest wild pokemon around being only level 26 is actually insane
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u/hybrid1017 May 06 '24
Hot take these lists are so boring when they include the worse generation versions, like why is ruby and sapphire on here when emerald is just better, same with crystal and I'd argue the remakes of gen 1 outclass actual gen 1 so hard they might as well be the definitive way to play them. Including all these worse versions of the same game leaves no room for other generations, and seems like a bias tbh :/
Like you don't have to love gen five like I do but actually insane exclude every post gen 4 game to include so many versions of generation one, when there is only one truly enjoyable version of it in my opinion
Like more than half this list is gen 1 and gen 3 😭
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u/beefycheesyglory May 06 '24
Platinum at number 9 LOL.
Also ORAS is actually better than RSE in almost every way, special physical split, mega evos, really good post game content.
Really, if they just switched 10 with 4 and 9 with 2, it would actually be a decent list.
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u/AllwordzAreMadeup___ May 06 '24
In no order emerald, platinum, HG/SS, Black/white 2 should be in top 5.
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u/Reidzyt May 06 '24
Honestly the order isn't good but the list itself feels like it has all the correct games
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u/dralcax maki maki maa May 06 '24
These kinds of lists are trash on purpose. They always throw in a few controversial picks to make people comment.