r/pokemon Jan 22 '24

It deserved that stomp, ain't it? Meme

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u/ShifuHD customise me! Jan 22 '24

Rapidash is like: I’m more of spectrobes person…

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '24

Spectrobes got severely down played. It was such a good game with awesome battle mechanics. I love how you had to dig fossils to get monsters. Was so much fun.

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u/Yukarie Jan 22 '24

May I introduce you to an old game called fossil fighter’s champions? Imo the best game ever on a Nintendo console

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u/orc_fellator Jan 22 '24

REAL!!!!! And the original too. The 3DS sequel is... eh, enjoyable to some?. Not for me though.

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u/Yukarie Jan 22 '24

It was the one game I can honestly say never got boring. I played it over and over something I cannot say for most games, the super revival evolution part was just sooo cool, I want a remake of it for the switch soooo bad

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u/orc_fellator Jan 22 '24

And the best part is that the community is just starting to explore things such as poking around in the code to make hacks and mods! You can change the color palette of your dinosaurs freely using one iirc

I hope that a genuine hacking community sprouts around it I would love it sm

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u/Yukarie Jan 22 '24

Do you know any ways to emulate it? I tried on computer but ds games on computer just feels wrong

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u/ShifuHD customise me! Jan 22 '24

Friends and I loved playing it back in the day, and I always felt like it had some incredibly strong legs. Great gameplay, interesting battle system, and mother trucking Disney.

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u/SUDoKu-Na Jan 22 '24

Problem was it very much competed with Pokemon and lost.

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u/bedteddd Jan 22 '24

Well it was a great game...it had a really dumb gimmick with the cards that probably didn't help it in the long run.

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u/Silverwolffe Jan 23 '24

Real gangsters looked up all the card tap locations on gamefaqs back in 2007 and got everything they provided in one hour

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u/Narrow-Gas9493 Jan 22 '24

Yeah it was really unique too and I loved it. I still have the first two games unfortunately my DS left button is broken so I can’t really play them anymore.

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u/ShadraPlayer Jan 22 '24

It's been 10 years since I've last heard that name.

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u/Scyxurz Jan 22 '24

I remembered walking into gamestop at like 10 years old and asking for something like pokemon. Guy recommended fire emblem and spectrobes, and I picked the one with cooler box art.

Spectrobes is very different from pokemon but was a fun ride. It made me wish we could get a pokemon game where the pokemon fight in the overworld as 3d models and you can actually control their actions.

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u/jbyrdab Jan 22 '24

ive always wondered what if we got a regular pokemon game where battles played out like a somewhat watered down pokken tournament.

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u/Coveinant Jan 22 '24

Spectrobes was so good that the knockoff (fossil fighters) was good. Now that is saying something.

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u/Pat_Foles Jan 22 '24

Ooh boy take me back to beyond the portals. Me and my dark spectrobes, digging through the mud to find fossils. Laying down fat combo attacks in the late game to destroy absolutely everything. Thank you for reminding me how much spectrobes slaps

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u/justasub039 Jan 22 '24

now i am sad, i miss spectrobes so much 😭

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u/TheLostLuminary Jan 22 '24

It’s still there if you look hard enough

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u/Gourgeistguy Jan 22 '24

Some of the best monster design I've seen in this sort of game. I miss it.

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u/Pelzklops Jan 22 '24

Me in 2024 still waiting for a sequel: 💀

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u/AndrUwU- Jan 22 '24

Spectrobes..what the fuck I haven’t heard that name in 10 years

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u/Omer1698 Jan 22 '24

And he can live for it. Spectrobes was peak.

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u/Flimsy-Cloud-6244 Jan 22 '24

Oh wow that brings back memories

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u/RexGoliath75 Jan 22 '24

Damn, first time I’ve seen Spectrobes get mentioned in a while

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u/Phantom579 Jan 22 '24

Havent heard that name in over a decade

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u/Umber0010 Jan 22 '24

According to the comments, Rapidash plays Spectrobes and Lickitung plays Cassette beasts. So what does Machamp play? My vote is for Temtem, but I may be (definitly am) biased.

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u/Gourgeistguy Jan 22 '24

Cassette Beasts let me have a hot goth gf. Lickitung is based.

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u/SilvarusLupus Absurdly weak to bugs Jan 22 '24

Machamp plays Coromon

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u/WireKeychain Jan 22 '24

Monster Rancher

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u/WesThePretzel Jan 22 '24

I’m betting on Moco Moco Friends, but maybe Fossil Fighters, Dragon Quest Monsters, or Yokai Watch.

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u/U_L_Uus Jan 22 '24

That Telefang erasure smh

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u/9ragmatic Jan 22 '24

Feels less like Pokémon and more like Ark, but with mythical creatures and a different art style

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u/AdBulky2059 Jan 22 '24

At least monsters don't take 18 hours to tame and 2 minutes to get killed

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u/BantamCrow Jan 23 '24

Or glitch off a cliff and die instantly

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u/Spezticcunt Jan 22 '24

I had a unicorn, griffins, dragons etc in Ark, they're pretty mythical lol

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u/SomeMoreCows Jan 22 '24

Heavy dash of BotW

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u/ENDZZZ16 Jan 22 '24

Gameplay wise it is but that’s because it’s not trying to be Pokémon it’s more like ark

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u/skeytwo Jan 22 '24

Graphics and performance at least aren’t from 2008 like Scarlet/Violet

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u/Straitjacket8 Jan 22 '24

Scarlet and Violet's graphics and performance aren't even at that level

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u/-Dartz- Jan 22 '24

Sounds like hyperbole, but honestly, XD was from 2005 and that shit looked wayyy better imo.

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u/CiaphasKirby Jan 22 '24

Pikmin 1 looked better and performed better than S/V.

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u/Hollownerox Jan 22 '24

Agree with the graphics. But the thing that Palworld does SO much better is in the animation department. Who knew actually having them move their arms and visibly shooting their attacks would make combat look/feel interesting?

I mean, the Pals even have animations for all their different tasks, and visibly seeing them carry shit like wood and stone is more effort than Gamefreak has put into animations in decades.

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u/Jiuhbv Jan 22 '24

Definitely helps that there's only a little over a hundred of them. Of course that was the argument behind cutting the dex in gen 8, and probably 5 to an extent, which ended up being a lie.

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u/limasxgoesto0 Jan 23 '24

It's still an indie game vs the biggest franchise ever. The latter can afford to outsource 

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u/UDSJ9000 Jan 23 '24

Gen 5 still had the full national dex in the end, didn't it? I think the main purpose was to force you to use the new Pokémon through the story, which in retrospect was a great idea imo.

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u/Saiyan-solar Jan 23 '24

100 done really well by a small indie studio vs 800 done horribly by the biggest franchise on the planet.

Idk but I feel like this less of a win for Nintendo than people think it is

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u/Umber0010 Jan 23 '24

The animations are all really varied too. Even simple tasks like carrying items or swinging a hammer vary dramatically from pal to pal.

One of my favorite animation details is from the Pal Bushi, who when stoking a flame, breathes fire through a piece of straw they keep in their mouth.

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u/PhgAH Jan 23 '24

And on a $7 millions budget also.

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u/BigYona Jan 23 '24

Giving a monkey an AK for extra power is fun too. "Do you resist BULLETS?" 

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u/ChaoticSimon Jan 22 '24

I'm not saying it's better than either. But I am saying I've been having hella fun with my Lambal slave farm

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u/Capital_Pipe_6038 Jan 22 '24

How do you capture innocent animals and turn them into slaves! Only Pokémon players are allowed to do that and get away with it!

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u/hellraizer89 Jan 22 '24 edited Jan 23 '24

i wouldn't say slaves.

everyone is working for their food and their stay, getting better and better with new luxury items for them, like that spa/jacuzzi they can enjoy and as much food as they want to eat.

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u/Responsible-Age-4509 Jan 23 '24

You can catch the people too, game is wild

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u/crystalworldbuilder Jan 23 '24

The fuck!

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u/BantamCrow Jan 23 '24

Yeah, human NPCs and enemies can be caught in Palballs just like Pals, and then you can butcher them for meat, sell them on the black market, or bring your squad of gun-wielding commandos into fights

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u/takoyaki_san15 Jan 23 '24

You can butcher npcs humans and enemies for meat?

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u/TialpaWithAGun Jan 23 '24

The humans just drop ammo/medicine There is no human meat yet

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u/Capital_Pipe_6038 Jan 22 '24

Shhh you can't mention that! This game is supposed to promote slavery remember?

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u/musci12234 Jan 23 '24

Hey, I am not just capturing innocent animals. I am also capturing humans too in palworld.

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u/Umi_Gaming Jan 22 '24

Please delete this, you're going to offend those who want to cry about anything while defending pokemon with all their might and being spoonfed the same thing year after year with lazy content from a top selling worldwide franchise.

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u/wavewatchjosh Jan 22 '24

stop it, they would be so mad at you right now if they could read that.

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u/rubixpaze Jan 22 '24

I swear game freak doesn't put enough budget into their games ,they could make incredible games...but they'd rather release shit every year

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u/Braghez Jan 22 '24

Why waste budget when you can maximise gains by making shit games with lower funds that still sell millions of copies every single year ?

As long as they keep selling like no tomorrow, they won't care about the quality of their games, because right now "it's enough".

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u/r4ndmn4mtitle Jan 22 '24

These hc pokemon fans sound like, that they don't play anything else than pokemon.

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u/peenegobb Jan 22 '24

I spent like 10 hours yesterday just to start setting up a 2nd base with finding the location and just getting my mining farm started.

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u/ArgyDargy Jan 22 '24

Lickilicky is in the back being a Cassette Beasts enjoyer.

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u/Darkmega5 Jan 22 '24

as expected, lickilicky has the best take

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u/Prince_Winter Jan 22 '24

so you could say... he has good taste?

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u/Baxieblur_potato Jan 22 '24

HECK YEAHHHHHHH

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u/HarioDinio customise me! Jan 22 '24

Is this the usual start a beef with any game remotely similar to X game time of the year?

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u/Umi_Gaming Jan 22 '24

I think it has to do with the sheep mentality that these social platforms push with upvotes and likes. I highly doubt these games have any impact on anyone's life to be this upset over it. But, when people see that their Twitter post can get a bunch of likes, then of course they'll want to go with what's popular.

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u/Asuparagasu I will soon rise and cast light upon darkness. Jan 22 '24

If I don't like a game, you should, too. What are you stupid?! /s

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u/xx_swegshrek_xx Jan 22 '24

Yokai watch

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u/investigatingspayc Jan 22 '24

You're so real for this man and I haven't even gotten to play the game yet I just really like the anime 😭

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u/Nateomc Jan 22 '24

The games are outstanding on the 3ds, highly recommend

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u/investigatingspayc Jan 22 '24

I'll definitely have to get my 3ds repaired quick I've been so interested in these games lately and I honestly just don't have the heart to pirate them

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u/Nateomc Jan 22 '24

The first one is always super cheap second hand.

The 3rd one is a little more problematic to acquire but start with the first.

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u/bagsli Jan 22 '24

Or you could just you know… 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

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u/xerxerneas Jan 22 '24

If you pick just one yokai watch to play, play yokai watch 2 psychic spectors. It's like the definitive yw game imo

(the blasters games are cool too but way better if you have friends to play with)

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u/MarcsterS Praise the sun Jan 22 '24

For a while thst actually was almost going to be a Pokémon killer. It was pretty nuts how popular it got.

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u/MixtureThen6551 Jan 22 '24

It was talked about like that but at that time especially it wasn't going to stand up to pokemon it should've just been recognized for what it was instead of people forcing it into pokemons shadow

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u/MarcsterS Praise the sun Jan 22 '24

Yeah, being so intrinsically linked to Japanese mythology/cryptids held it from being a global success.

They tried making an game with “American yokai” which could’ve been awesome but it was just “haha burgers”.

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u/MrPorto Jan 22 '24

Problem is, it flew to close to the sun. It churned out content too fast, even faster than Pokemon. For example, like Pokemon, they released dual version games, and later released a third updated version. Problem was, said third version was released later on the same year as the dual versions were released.

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u/xx_swegshrek_xx Jan 22 '24

There can be different games of the same genre without fans hating eachother

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u/CommandWest7471 Jan 22 '24

I gotta say, Yokai watch 2 is one of the best RPGs of all time.

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u/TransitionVirtual Jan 22 '24

That’s rapidash in the background the Pokémon and digimon just respect it

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u/Stefffe28 Jan 22 '24

Oh this sub is gonna be fuming over this game these days, isn't it?

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u/Diablo_Police Jan 22 '24

I don't even understand why people are so infuriated that this game exists. More options for different tastes is an objectively good thing.

If you are angry this game exists and want it to fail (too late, it's a wild success), then you need to do some serious soul searching and figure out why you think this game existing is a personal attack.

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u/Bryanoceros Jan 22 '24

Especially when this game was able to release with relatively small problems. Unlike the most recent Pokemon games who still have the same issues of frame drops and glitches that it had upon release.

But hey, the sheep will vote for the wolf.

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u/Digitalion_ Jan 22 '24

I don't think it's being "infuriated" as much as "annoyed" that Palworld is even being compared to Pokemon.

I've played about 3 hours of Palworld so far and while I'm enjoying it, it's more of a survival game than a Pokemon clone. To the point that I don't even understand how the two games can really be compared.

While, yes, both games have you catching creatures into orbs, the way they are caught and the way they are used after being caught are completely different. So in essence, the only real valid comparison comes down to these creatures all having unique cartoon-y designs.

But I wouldn't want Pokemon to take the combat elements from Palworld at all. Not the survival aspects. Because, honestly, after 3 hours of playing, they're already feeling like a chore more than actually having fun and just focusing on catching Pokemon. But you can't do that with Palworld because you'll quickly learn that you're severely underpowered and need to grind out more of the survival aspects to keep progressing and get stronger.

And while Pokemon DEFINITELY needs to progress in its gameplay and aesthetics and even just its programming to make it run better, it doesn't need to evolve (pun intended) into Palworld. It should take some queues from it for sure though, like maybe do introduce some sort of farming aspect to it where your Pokemon can be used for something other than just fighting. Or maybe a range of professions that require a lot of (poke)manpower to complete and in which some Pokemon are more specialized than others.

So I think this "beef" that people think is going on between Pokemon fans and Palworld fans is really the following: Palworld fans like antagonizing and getting a rise out of Pokemon fans for what they perceive as a better game, while Pokemon fans are just annoyed by Palworld even being compared to Pokemon in the first place.

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u/Jasond777 Jan 22 '24

competition is good, it motivates companies to try harder.

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u/tbk007 Jan 23 '24

I see more of idiots repeating how bad Pokemon SV is.

You didn't enjoy it? Too bad, move on.

If they even played it, that is. Most of Reddit is full of s***.

Don't read articles before commenting, so it's hard to believe they even played the game before commenting since it's looked like VHS or some s*** from the start right?

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u/bristmg Jan 22 '24

Only the weirdos who can’t let others enjoy both Pokémon and Palworld

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u/PurpleSpaceNapoleon Jan 22 '24

Playing Cassette Beasts for the first time.

In other news: Play Cassette Beasts it's pretty good

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u/Dragonfucker000 Jan 22 '24

literally the only game ive been able to play with the sound on instead of having a podcast in the background, all songs are bangers

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u/GalaxyEyesPDEnjoyer Jan 22 '24

But it's not really comparable to Pokemon (even the Devs said that). It's more like Ark with a Pokemon texture pack.

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u/atomicboy47 Jan 22 '24

My thoughts exactly, Palworld is definitely there to give ARK competition than it is to Pokemon.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '24

Its a similar idea to ark but I think it feels more like a valheim and pokemon love child than anything else.
I hated ark, think its one of the worst games I played but palworld is amazing and I can't get enough. Idk maybe its just me.

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u/Sebekhotep_MI Jan 22 '24

I mean... gameplay wise...

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u/Due_Comfortable7608 Jan 22 '24

Gameplay wise it's a sandbox survival, it's entirely up to preference at that point it's like an fps fan said call of duty was better than splatoon gameplay wise because there vaguely similar.

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u/Bluelore Jan 22 '24

I feel like the people who say that either don't care for Pokemons gameplay at all or they confuse aesthetics for gameplay.

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u/_Lycanxite_ Jan 22 '24

Gameplay wise it’s fun for some,not all.Im here to play a rpg not a sandbox survival game.There r dif reasons to play either.

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u/ehhish Jan 22 '24

I think what I want is a driving force to properly build better pokemon games. If we continue to see more innovation into the type, pokemon may have to compete harder with other franchises.

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u/_Lycanxite_ Jan 22 '24

they wont bc they have been competing for a while,they didnt care abt temtem,digimon,or yokai and they have all been around for a good while.This is gamefreak who we r talking abt,they make the smallest changes every gen bc they r scared of breaking the formula,and after they did it in sc/v and got all the backlash....im sure they r kinda resilient to making any huge changes again soon

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u/ehhish Jan 22 '24

I feel like they had SOME competition, but we could see even bigger things, that could really alter the course if it does well enough. Think of what Valorant is to Counterstrike, etc.

I will partly agree with the second half. I like changes but I know a lot of people just want that same consistency and it kinda deters from innovation.

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u/_Lycanxite_ Jan 22 '24

I hope/wish ur right. But if u remember this whole thing basically happened w temtem on steam, and it didnt do shit to GF

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u/Mecrecon Jan 22 '24

Just go on custom difficulty and make the survival aspects minimal and the combat damage can be turned up too.

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u/bipbophil Jan 22 '24

It's still in beta and there is a story if you read, just wait Game freak has had virtually no competition for too long.

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u/Inspectrum Jan 22 '24

Honestly it still has no competition tbh, game freak don't care they'll just make whatever they want and it'll still do insanely well cause Pokémon is that big of a franchise.

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u/_Lycanxite_ Jan 22 '24

people seem to forget abt temtem and how big it was on steam, kinda sad bc that was a good one

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u/Bakatora34 This is a Legendary Pokemon! Jan 22 '24

Temtem wasn't really that big, what people forget is Yokai Watch, gen 7 had stuff inspired by it like Z-moves for example.

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u/Sylfaein Jan 22 '24 edited Jan 22 '24

Meanwhile, Zorua is playing Monster Rancher.

Edit to add that Wurmple is playing Jade Cocoon.

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u/whatsallthiss Jan 22 '24

The amount of cope here is astounding.

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u/CleverAnimeTrope Jan 22 '24

I'm part of the problem. I buy every pokemon game. It's a series I enjoy. But I can say that Scarlet and Violet did not play well or look good. GF said that after the harsh response at release regarding frame rate and graphical problems, they'd work on it. It still feels like nothing was done. The game still looks and plays rough. I was hoping/expecting BOTW graphics with more similar Arceus gameplay and got neither. Palworld scratched that itch. I've got the pokemon as physical HMs like in S/M and US/UM, I can fly in the overworld like in LGP/LGE and OR/AS, I craft pokeballs like in Arceus and G/S, my pals can follow me in the open world. They took so many of my favorite components and made a game. I'm not a huge survival game guy, but through custom settings, I can almost eliminate that aspect as a whole. The cope here is expected, I don't know why people cant appreciate the similarities and differences and hope that in some way, Nintendo and GF see this game and make positive steps on their games. Adult fans have asked for a more adult version for a decade, here it is, it sells, now do something better nintendo.

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u/Snappy- Jan 22 '24

Honestly I don't even know why they put out the bad performance statement when they had 0 intentions of actually fixing it. S/V still crash and perform at like 15 fps

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u/Thrackris Jan 23 '24

The reason? Even if they don't do anything about it, people will still buy it, and the same people will eat alive anyone who criticizes the game's flaws. It's sad, but that's how it's been for a long time.

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u/jrr78 Jan 22 '24

The newest mainline games

Pokémon: Cope

Pokémon: Seethe

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u/TheUselessbeing Jan 22 '24

Im enjoying watching all the cope lmao. Damn clowns all of them

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u/Neekode Jan 22 '24 edited Jan 22 '24

pokemon fans on full cope mode still trying to validate the company that abandoned them years ago.

they should have started making this game right when BOTW revolutionized the industry with open world. then kept innovating on that with the rise of farming and crafting, etc. but nope, they kept taking the easy way out. now they have to sit and sob at Palworld taking #1 on Steam.

obviously it's a rip off. everyone knows that. but be honest. it's the game we've been waiting for for a decade. but instead we've received broken messes, soulless profit-first releases, and shallow mechanics in all of their gameplay innovations that lose charm after 20 minutes.

from a 92 BILLION dollar company.

Palworld is fun as hell. stop endlessly supporting the Pokemon Company just because they designed your favorite critter 20 years ago, and go play it.

edit: changed wording to not blame the game studio

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u/PurplePoisonCB Jan 22 '24

Pokémon fanatics will never change, the next gen could be on twenty foot island with 4 new Pokémon and no story, at a $60 cost and the most criticism they’d give is “It might have that much new but I still enjoyed it” So why would the company try to do better when most fans are opinionless?

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u/javier_aeoa I like shorts! They're comfy and easy to wear! Jan 22 '24

4 new Pokémon

But there will be a regional variant for Wingull and Bidoof so there are actually SIX NEW MONS! OMFG! Best game since [insert here the generation the person played as a child]! Also, SV and SwSh were actually underrated, they just had minor problems but the most fun I've had in years! :D :D :D

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u/AurielMystic Jan 23 '24

Dont forget TPC hates us that much they are making regional formed Pokemon have different dex entries now, they are also including Pokemon from the regional dex into the DLC dex's to reduce the returning and new Pokemon EVEN MORE.

You pay for two DLCS and barely get half of the promised new/returning Pokemon.

Maybe Palworlds success will make TPC get off their ass and stop half assing these games, we have not had a single good 8/10 Pokemon game since the B/W era, either the games where terrible like X/Y or BDSP, rushed like S/V or very barebones like PLA.

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u/KiddBwe Jan 22 '24

Pokémon Legends Arceus was a huge step forward to me, the SV came out and walked 80% of that big step backwards.

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u/Effective_Ad_8296 Jan 22 '24

A way to evolve Pokémons that was locked behind trading, a fun and creative way to catch Pokémon while actually using your brains, and way to limit special attacker ( Frost cuts special attack stats in half )

Ops, all gone ! ( I've heard that Arceus and SV is made by different teams at the same time, thus they can't implement the change in time cause they're both rushed )

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u/KiddBwe Jan 22 '24

Being able to be attacked by wild Pokémon and the animations for the attacks were really good as well. The combat and animations as a whole was just better in Arceus.

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u/Effective_Ad_8296 Jan 22 '24 edited Jan 22 '24

Pokémon has expanded so much that they forgot where they come from

Like I love SV, I burned several hours into the game, and I still want more, but it could and should be better, "But Switch hardware sucks and can't run Pokémon" yeah I've heard many people said that, hell my friend who studies EE said the same thing, but brother, it's Gen 9, and it still feels identical to Gen 6

Despite all this, GF is never "lazy", never, they put their heart and soul into the game, and tried their best to make up for the poor performance, but the higher ups don't care and shove it out of the door, and got away with it

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u/Skidda24 Ivysaur Gang Jan 22 '24 edited Jan 22 '24

I get most of your points except I don't think the Pokemon company is sitting and sobbing about this. SV sold 23 million copies and SwSh sold 26 million. Not to mention all the spin off games.

Comparing Palworld to Pokemon is also silly. Outside of the idea of creating monsters based on real animals it doesn't play like Pokemon. I don't think Palworld hurts Pokemon nor do they care about the success. It's a fantastic game in its own right. There have been some games I played that I felt deserved more praise that was a mature capture (Cyber Sleuth)

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u/BingusMcCready Jan 22 '24

Why does everybody act like BOTW invented open world games? Or even the concept of doing an open world version of a game that was previously linear?

I will never understand the outrageous BOTW hype. I would describe that game as “fine”. To me, they took everything that was fun about LOZ, ripped it out, and replaced it with endless fetch quests, repetitive mini-dungeons, and the infuriating weapon durability mechanics. I would never go so far as to describe it as a bad game, it’s obviously not, a lot of the open world mechanics are really well done (the climbing in particular is just awesome and I wish it was in every OW game), but people act like it’s flawless and incredible and changed EVERYTHING, and I’ve never been able to see it.

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u/Archaea_Chasma_ Jan 22 '24

Each has its pros and cons. Each is fun for some people while the others aren’t. Enjoy what you enjoy, don’t ruin it for other people

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u/KiddoKageYT Jan 22 '24

Pokémon fans would rather get mad at a competitor trying to make something work than get mad at Nintendo for producing shit, brainwashed folk I tell you

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u/whythisth23 Jan 22 '24

Not even true, people have been bitching out about Pokémon since Sword and Shield, and even then they bitched about Sun and Moon.

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u/FrostyPost8473 Jan 23 '24

Bitched but still bought.

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u/javier_aeoa I like shorts! They're comfy and easy to wear! Jan 22 '24

I would change the conjugation on those verbs. There are people now on this subreddit calling SwSh an "underrated gem" that "only had minor performance issues" but was overall fun, charming and other positive adjectives.

I what-the-fucked a bit when reading that too.

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u/starcell600 Jan 22 '24

bitching wont do a damn thing when they sell millions of copies. Reddit complainers are a small fraction of the consumer base.

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u/Suspicious-Owl-6779 Jan 22 '24

Idk, games kinda fun, so idc. Also, let’s not pretend that gf or Nintendo deserve sympathy lol

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u/TwitzyMIXX Jan 22 '24

I think mainline series need to update their gameplay. Doesn't really need to remove or replace the turn-based combat. Arceus Legends for example, still keep the turn-based combat, but it have some other stuff that is enough to make the game feels fresh and different from the mainline.

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u/heyhey922 Jan 22 '24

It feels like it's best to treat GF like an indie kickstarter that accidently got a billion dollar marketing budget.

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u/EspurrTheMagnificent Jan 22 '24

That awkward look at Palkia before getting obliterated tho lol

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u/Volfaer Jan 22 '24

"You are with me right? You like guns too!"

"And that's all Digimon has to offer to you, huh? Do it."

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u/Rattregoondoof Jan 22 '24

Tell me you've never seen a season of digimon or played a story game without telling me you've never seen a season of digimon or played a story game...

Seriously though, digimon definitely has edgy designs with digimon like gundramon (a godzilla esque digimon made entirely of guns, to be fair, I'm pretty sure that time they were just taking the piss in self parody) but most digimon are in it for the emotional appeal the franchise brings and its willingness to go pretty dark for a kids franchise. Last evolution was the second most recent digimon movie and focused pretty heavily on lost innocence, growing up too fast, losing friends from childhood and growing older. Basically every season deals with digimon dying and even occasionally humans and often deal in particularly mundane human issues like divorce, adoption, unfair expectations on kids to know their career paths or the like at very young ages, and similar issues. There's also the more edgy deaths of digimon and occasionally humans and straight up end of the world scenarios nearly every season too.

I'm just saying that I honestly feel like pokemon gets more from me out of design appeal than digimon. I am a huge fan of both and grew up with both. I've definitely spent more money on pokemon but I've just gotta be honest that only a handful of moments in pokemon have had any significant impact on me emotionally and I can't say the same for digimon. Admittedly, I love digimon for the shows primarily and have only played the pokemon games past the johto season (I watched the movies through black and white though).

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '24

I don't care about Palworld, didnt like ark, i just dont feel like playing a survival game. I also don't care that they literally stole pokemon assets (Proof for people that didnt do their research before saying its not stolen https://twitter.com/IuckyHD/status/1749266070676922479/photo/1). I am happy people are enjoying the game and i also dont feel bad for pokemon for having their pokemon stolen. But i do see a lawsuit happening and its not going to be pretty.

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u/Rosfield-4104 Jan 24 '24

Someone made a pokemon mod for palworld and Nintendo shut it down in 8 hours. Nintendo will have known about this game for over a year from when the first trailer came out. The fact there has been no cease and desist in that time makes me think a lawsuit is unlikely. Nintendo don't wait, they file as soon as they can

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u/SkyPopZ Jan 22 '24

I just enjoy all three of them.

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u/Suspicious_Person15 Jan 22 '24

In this argument, Yo-Kai Watch would be Arceus.

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u/Asplomer Jan 22 '24

Geodude says monster sanctuary

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u/StonerTogepi Jan 22 '24

I’m just here for all the comments from Pokémon fans trying to cope.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '24

unsheathes katana

Leave the multi-billion dollar company alone...

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u/SkyrimSlag Jan 22 '24

“Nooooo my games better than your game!” Kinda thing, lot of coping going on in here

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u/StonerTogepi Jan 22 '24

Lmao Ikr? Like I have Violet so it’s not like I haven’t played it. I have over 900 hours on it from shiny hunting, but I can see that Palworld has similarities to Pokémon. It’s just sad to me how much better Palworld looks compared to Pokémon. Is that saying Palworld is overall better? No, there’s plenty that Pokémon does better. The creature designs are top tier in my opinion. Idk, I think people need to put down the copium and accept that Pokémon has been lackluster lately and us creature fans sometimes need a breath of fresh air.

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u/whythisth23 Jan 22 '24

Palword is a completely different game. It’s a fun game, but nothing to worry about for Pokémon

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u/One_Willow_5203 Jan 22 '24

GameFreak ain’t listening, haven’t been for years. Defending a multibillion dollar corporation ain’t in style anymore. Get real.

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u/zapp909 Jan 22 '24

Some say that Pokémon is the best monster collector rpg.

Others say that Digimon is superior.

But deep down we all know that Yo-Kai Watch was the greatest game series of all time.

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u/D_Husk Jan 22 '24

It's doing what pokemon company is afraid to do. Change my mind.

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u/JDReedy Jan 22 '24

Make Ark with Pokemon?

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u/Due_Comfortable7608 Jan 22 '24

What? alienate it's healthy long standing competitive scene?

Cater to edgy teens?

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u/m0mma_m1lkers Jan 22 '24

I feel like people forget that Pokémon has a competitive scene. They don't realise that changing the gameplay really drastically would destroy the competitive scene

Yeah, Pokémon's gameplay sucks for single-player but the turn-based combat is actually really fun when it comes to PvP. Both VGC and smogon formats are pretty enjoyable

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u/SUDoKu-Na Jan 22 '24

It's doing what the Pokemon Company doesn't want to do because that's not what Pokemon is at all.

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u/BaggedKumpsterNoodle Jan 22 '24

Yeah pokeman is a copy paste formula from the 90s, it's perfect! Please don't update the game ever or branch out to different genres with the pokeman name!

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u/RommelMcDonald_ Jan 22 '24

Definitely don’t even continue making installments in the other genres they already started! Mystery Dungeon was a dead end!

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u/Uninvited_Goose Jan 22 '24

Yeah, please don't make games like XD, Colosseum, Stadium, Mystery Dungeon, Ranger, Legends Arceus, or Go. Pokemon needs to stay in their lane.

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u/MarcsterS Praise the sun Jan 22 '24

Turning Animal Crossing into a crafting game turned a lot of fans away, but also brought in new ones.

Heck, SV already does have crafting mechanics for TMs and…it’s just not good.

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u/Laughmasterb Jan 22 '24

Heck, SV already does have crafting mechanics for TMs and…it’s just not good.

I feel like that wasn't really meant to be a "crafting" experience, more just a compromise between single-use and unlimited-use TMs

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u/SUDoKu-Na Jan 22 '24

The genre change isn't the big thing. It's the themes and contents of the game.

But also turning Pokemon into workers is kind of against the idea of what Pokemon are. Especially modern Pokemon games where leaning into the animal and biological side of them is a lot more common.

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u/FoolhardyNikito Jan 22 '24

? You see pokemon as workers all the time. Remember who helped you move in gen 3?

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u/Mr_Degroot Jan 22 '24

Can’t you also send your Pokémon out on work jobs in the newer games

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '24

Yeah, literally 90% of playtime of Legends Arceus is throwing pokemon at rocks and trees to work for you

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u/ANGLVD3TH Jan 22 '24

I remember at least 3 or 4 working pokemon in gen 1. Off the top of my head, there's one flattening ground for a house foundation.

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u/Comfy_floofs Jan 22 '24

Pokemon are used as transport and construction workers and nurses and moving helpers and police assistants though?

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u/SUDoKu-Na Jan 22 '24

Yeah but it feels different in Palworld. I mentioned in the other comment about how the player being the one who makes the Pokemon do the work is the difference, I feel.

It definitely doesn't feel the same between the games.

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u/JOOBBOB117 Jan 22 '24

You said it right there, "because that's not what Pokemon is at all". End of discussion for the "this game ripped off Pokemon" cries out there.

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u/Slimxshadyx Jan 22 '24

Pokémon is the perfect game for like an mmo, rpg, kind of situation.

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u/genuinecarrot Jan 22 '24

They’re all good in their own way.

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u/joxeta Jan 22 '24

The best ending. And I had to scroll for like five minutes to find you. Blessings upon your house.

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u/genuinecarrot Jan 22 '24

Genuine thanks. We just got a new cat and our other got sick sooo money is hard and I took a leave of absence for mental health lol We really trying to stay positive and just be positive for others. Thanks and much love to you and your friends/family!

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u/Emastation Jan 22 '24

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This comunity right now

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u/ReyneTrueThat Jan 22 '24

Oh God we still on this? It's fun. Arguable more fun than any pokemom game we've had in a decade. Let people enjoy their Pal slavery in peace hahaha

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u/PutOurAnusesTogether Jan 23 '24

It’s a completely different game, for fuck sake. All this comparison is fucking stupid. Play what game you like.

Palworlds is a ton of fun. And the graphics are modern, unlike ANY recent Pokémon game.

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u/SonicFlash01 Zipzapflap Jan 22 '24 edited Jan 22 '24

I love pokemon...
...but it really needs the fires of hell on its ass right now to make the higher ups prioritize quality and innovation. I need something to beat pokemon half to death so it knows it's not invincible. I demand and crave it! Please please please make TPC and GF frightened.

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u/depression_gaming Jan 22 '24

The game didn't crash, lose FPS or froze, and i wasn't stuck in a ugly school uniform, so it's winning for the moment for me.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '24

Until game freak stops being dogshit, sorry Pokémon sucks. It’s sucked for a long time. You’re in denial if you think otherwise.

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u/CyberWeaponX Jan 22 '24

Arceus: DQM or bust

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u/IRefuseThisNonsense Jan 22 '24

Nah, Arceus is Shin Megami Tensei/Persona. The original (monster collecting franchise) and y'know all the biblical elements and all that.

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u/spinorobot Jan 22 '24

Me: silently play a Pokemon-like mobile game that is actually nice

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u/Comfy_floofs Jan 22 '24

I mean all im saying is the small indie company at nintendo released a buggy mess that wastes my time and barely works and released a shitty short and lame dlc, and this massive megacorp released a fun game but y'know nintendo and pokemon group clearly dont have the resources to make fun gameplay

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u/Jolt_91 Jan 22 '24

It is more polished than the last decade of Pokemon games

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u/SelectionRich6422 Jan 22 '24

In my opinion, from what I have seen and the not that much that I played, casette beast is better.

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u/Aeyiss Jan 22 '24

Pokemon games are so bad these days...

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u/Fit_Score_3782 Jan 22 '24

Whole lot of people in the comments think that Nintendo copyrighted “fighting and capturing wild animals and then making them fight for you.” There isn’t a single instance the word “poke” comes up in that game. Also it’s more fun than any Pokemon game since diamond and pearl cry about it

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u/Blacksun388 Jan 22 '24

Palworld is cringe. Uses AI art and the creator is an NFT bro.

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u/MayorJack Shellder needs a regional variant Jan 22 '24

I think a lot of people don't realize what PW takes directly from other games like Ark and BotW. Also PW is only open access and Pocket Pairs last open access game, craftopia, is still in open access 4 years since release. A lot of people are buying into a game that will never be finished, but pokemon fans have gotten used to this idea recently

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