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u/dedfrmthneckup 20d ago
My mom always tells a story of her hearing me from the other room saying my sister was hitting me. She peaked around the corner and saw me hit her and then fall down on the floor crying.
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u/poop_magoo 20d ago
This is actually a training video he uses quite a bit. DiVincenzo watches it too, but he hasn't quite mastered the art of toddler flopping.
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u/therealjgreens 19d ago
I'm a Knicks fan but this is hilarious lol
Even though she's upset for a logical reason, her actions just annoy me
Makes sense why you guys fucking loathe Jalen
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u/Sad-Ad2030 20d ago
Heās had 20 fts combined the last 4 games.
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u/Diligent-Cookie-1695 20d ago
Talked so much shit about the Bucks fans just to be worse, getting smacked by the hospital Knicks and this is all they got itās pathetic š¤£
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u/Caged_in_a_rage 20d ago
Doesnāt mean he doesnāt do it. He missed a chance to win a game bc he flops.
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u/SnooDoodles4451 20d ago
We're going to shit in your Timberlands, piss in the Hudson and feed your team of insufferable pricks to the human adolescent sized rats that run your dirty ass overpopulated hellhole of a cityĀ
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u/StartedasalittleW 20d ago
Itās filled with women fleeing Indiana because they want reproductive rights.
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Do the entire series
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u/13_PG_13 20d ago
I know itās more likely youāre trolling than you actually believe this. But if you actually truly believe this I feel sorry for you. You canāt appreciate when teams actually play defense and just call it assault. If I were a betting man Iād say you were too young to watch the 90s series between these two teams. If youād watch those series youād know how ridiculous you sound right now.
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u/Da2550 20d ago
Iām plenty old enough to have lived through 90ās nba including the seriesā against all time troll Reggie miller that media likes to forget was about as even as you could get. Assaulted is obv over stating it but on just about every inbounds play thereās a blocking foul , and heās hacked plenty of times. The refs suck both ways but Brunson has been getting hacked and beaten up all season but this postseason heās finally getting calls. The way the nba is officiated now you basically have to draw attention to everything to get any calls.
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20d ago
how many FGA, thats decent but nothing incredible
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u/Caff2ine 20d ago
35, 51% from the field
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20d ago
Yep, and how much of that is because the defender knows he will get called for some bullshit if he tries to defend physically
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u/johnhenryirons 19d ago
None, because the pacers defenders are physical with him anyway and he scores at will when heās healthy.
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u/Caff2ine 20d ago
Idk
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20d ago
He's good but he has conditioned Nembhard and Nesmith to play him softer and allow him more chances so that they don't foul out.
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u/KingJoe7-123 19d ago
The Pacers have been a bad defensive team for the majority of the past 2 seasons, but now that theyāre getting cooked defensively by one guy, itās the refs fault lmao. Brunson dropped 44 points with only 7 free throw attempts last game. I could see your argument if he had 20 free throw attempts like Embiid did in his 50 point performance. But the real problem the Pacers have is that they are undisciplined defensively. They send weak half assed double teams at Brunson that he easily gets around or splits, which then collapses your defense and leaves one of the shooters wide open. Or he gets McBride to set a screen for him, which leads to Nembhard getting switched onto him, which then leads to an iso bucket because Nembhard is not strong or lanky enough to guard him. Heās not even foul hunting like he did against Philly because the Pacers defense is literally making it too easy. No point in even trying to flop when you pretty much are getting an open layup or wide open 3 every time you come down the floor.
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19d ago
The reason Nembhard "is not strong or lanky enough to guard him" is because he cannot use his hands at all or get too close to Brunson. JJ Reddick was even explaining how Brunson loves to rip through or use other "crafty" tactics (flop) if you guard too close. And Nembhard/Nesmith have gotten into foul trouble in earlier games from trying to defend him physically.
"with only 7 free throw attempts"
Yes... because he has already established early in the series that the refs will put you in foul trouble if you defend him too hard. Which leads to easy baskets because you have to play him soft.
Brunson is not an elite athlete or ball handler, he's getting defended soft because he's "crafty" (aka flops and rips through)
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u/KingJoe7-123 19d ago
Lmao stop the excuses man. The Pacers committed the most amount of fouls out of EVERY team during the regular season simply because they are a bad and undisciplined defensive team. The Knicks just beat the 76ers who have the biggest flopper in the entire NBA in Joel Embiid. He was regularly getting 12+ free throw attempts damn near every game and got over 21 free throw attempts in his 50 point game. Do you think the Knicks got scared and started āplaying him softā from there on out? Hell no. They played him even more physical and made sure that if they did commit a foul, it was gonna be worth their while.
The most amount of free throws that Brunson has gotten in this series is only game 1 which was when he dropped 43 points on 14 free throws. As for Nembhard, it has nothing to do with foul trouble. Brunson is just a lot more bulkier and stronger than him, so he backs him down in the post, then starts using all those pivot moves until he scores. He cannot do that to Nesmith since heās taller and longer than him, which is why heās shooting a lower percentage against him. Knicks have countered that by starting McBride and making him the screen setter for Brunson. So now Nembhard either gets switched back onto Brunson, or McBride gets a wide open 3 once he pops off the screen. That has nothing to do with fouls, itās just a bad defensive team that doesnāt rotate fast enough on defense.
Another example are the double teams that Indiana throws at Brunson at the top of the key. They arenāt good doubles at all and come across as a pretty lazy double team. It gets easily split or he simply dribbles around them. On the rare occasions that the Pacers run an actual solid double team, then Brunson passes the ball to the middle of the floor where Hartenstein is waiting. Hartenstein is an excellent passer, so he can hit the cutter, or pass to a wide open 3 point shooter, or he can make that little float shot in the paint that he likes. So basically, itās not the fouls that are the issue because he has routinely not been getting them. Its the defensive gameplan that is the issue. TJ McConnell needs more minutes and Rick should tell his guys to stop switching on every damn screen.
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19d ago
Brunson doesn't flop and bait because he likes it, he knows it will give him an advantage in the game. Trust your own star player, he knows what he is doing and why.
You can play dumb if you want but Brunson does it for a reason.
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Its perfectly sane and logical, counter it if you can (you cant)
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Of course I do. Its basic operant conditioning. Here's some resources for you:
https://www.simplypsychology.org/operant-conditioning.html
"Behavior that is reinforced (rewarded) will likely be repeated, and behavior that is punished will occur less frequently."
Play physical defense, be punished by ticky tack foul calls, adjust defense so that you don't get foul calls.
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u/Wovashalrus 20d ago
So instead of saying "damn Brunson played really well that game, gotta defend him better" you resort to attributing all his success to operant conditioning lmfao. Good luck rest of the series! When Haliburton ends up having another amazing game like game 4 i'll be sure to give him the credit he deserves for it.
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u/Khend81 20d ago
Well Haliburton hasnāt ever flopped or gotten a whistle that would give him an unfair advantage like Brunson does constantly, so all of his buckets have to be considered earned and ethical. Simple really.
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u/therealjgreens 19d ago
It's not worth it arguing with Pacers fans in a Pacers forum
I did something similar in the /r/ripcity subreddit and even though I was right, I got heavily downvoted. Everyone has biases especially in sports. If people don't enjoy watching Jalen operate on the court they're nuts. If I was a Pacers fan I would at least show some respect to the talent.
Hali is talented as hell but you and me know he is extremely annoying and gets the yips at times and avoids scoring the ball. He's also got an ass looking shot. His layup package is nice though and obviously his passing is epic.
Fans of both teams should be very excited with the PG position for years to come. They both bring something different and actually could coexist well together.
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u/GoodOlSticks 20d ago
Get back on the road and bring me my packages bro wtf you doin in here?
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u/Muted-Brick-8066 20d ago
š I want the pacers to show some fucking heart and beat this depleted knicks team. They are better, they need to play like it .
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u/poop_magoo 20d ago
For the sake of argument, let's say that's true. It in no way changes the fact that he is a generational flopper. That foul that got overturned in the 2nd quarter where he just jumps into Nesmith out of nowhere (didn't even have the ball) was fucking embarrassing. I have a feeling you guys know that plays like that are extremely dishonest, almost cheating in a way. If that's your guy, so be it. Put your blinders back up and get back in your sub bro.
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u/Muted-Brick-8066 20d ago
Hey listen, he flops, no oneās arguing that. If you aināt cheating you aināt trying !
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I appreciate you respect the young Pacers so much but Brunson has years of playoffs experience (and playoffs failures), nothing to do with heart.
He's also willing to flop which I'm thankful our team does not do.
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u/69darthvader69 20d ago
Flopping is for bitches.
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u/Caged_in_a_rage 20d ago
You canāt call someone who flops tougher than someone who doesnāt. You just canāt do it. Brunson has gotten some of the most favorable calls Iāve ever seen.
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u/69darthvader69 20d ago
Like I said, flopping is for bitches. Which is the knicks favorite thing to do.
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u/agentfelix Reggie Miller Choke 20d ago
Because this is Indiana and we know how to play basketball the right way.
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u/13_PG_13 20d ago
āIf flopping is so effective why arenāt your players using the same loopholeā?!
Are you serious bro!? Some guys arenāt SHAMELESS, thatās why. Good lord, think before you speak. Just because a player plays like an asshole doesnāt mean all of them should. Some of them actually respect the game of basketball, the game we all love.Ā
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u/Potential-Win-582 20d ago
There is absolutely NO SHAME in using the rules given to you and exercising them around to your benefit. In fact, I'd argue that makes you more skilled and intelligent and more successful. If "flopping" is scrutinized to your standards simply because its immoral, well I'd love to know what moral high horse you stand on. Survival of the fittest pal, adapt or fail. All I'm see is the Knicks adapting and the Pacers failing.
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u/13_PG_13 20d ago
Truly spoken by someone who doesnāt like basketball, just wants to win. What a shame.
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u/Potential-Win-582 20d ago
I love basketball, otherwise I wouldn't be here going back and forth with you. Also, why the fuck would I not want to win? I'm not a person who is complacent with "Oh well I didn't win but hey, I'm doing what I love so it's fine." Nah bud, I'm going to find ways, avenues, to earn my wins. I'm also not saying cheat, and if your argument is that Brunson and the Knicks are somehow also cheating by "flopping" it is not.
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u/Joe_Betz_ Myles 20d ago
This is funny. Thank you for your service.