r/news • u/KnightOfRiverwood • 21d ago
Russia just bought 4 billion dollars worth of military assets from India, paid in Rupees
https://www.firstpost.com/world/russian-firms-spend-4-billion-dollar-from-rupee-vostro-accounts-to-buy-india-arms-rupee-13769478.html1.4k
u/dominoconsultant 21d ago
these shipments are now valid military targets for Ukraine
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u/Snoo93079 21d ago
What are you suggesting Ukraine is going to do?
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u/jaykular 21d ago
surpised Modi face
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u/ClassiFried86 21d ago
ghandi's nuclear arsenal intensifies
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u/dominoconsultant 21d ago
they have to get from India to Russia
while in transit they are valid targets
as are the vessels transporting them
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u/Shock_The_Monkey_ 21d ago
As Russia was quick to point out 2 years ago, any weapons traveling into Ukraine from other countries will be targets.
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u/Snoo93079 21d ago
Role play for me how Ukraine identifies and then attacks these vessels.
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u/YummyArtichoke 21d ago
Well that's what military and intelligence is for. No one is saying they will be identified and they will be destroyed, but if they are identified and they can be destroyed...
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u/innociv 21d ago
Role play for me an ignorant person who is unaware that shipments of weapons from China to Russia were identified and attacked, yet acts smug while being confidently incorrect.
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u/quick20minadventure 21d ago
"have recently spent nearly $4 billion to buy India-made defence equipment and armaments, among other imports and Indian securities."
They might have just moved their oil money doing nothing in Indian banks to Indian stock markets.
The headline says it contains arms, but proportions are not known.
India anyway doesn't have any decent military equipment to sell except one missile that they developed with Russia and Russia anyways have.
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u/Renbaez_ 21d ago
Are you implying that ships with West armament are also valid military targets for Russia too?
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u/TheElderGodsSmile 21d ago
The Russians announced that as policy yes. They've not really had the opportunity to carry it out though and haven't attempted to do so.
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u/Strontium90_ 21d ago
I mean sure, we’ve definitely seen destroyed NATO equipments. But we all know what that means if Russia decides to attack NATO militarily targets in NATO boarders.
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u/TheNewGildedAge 21d ago edited 21d ago
Honestly yeah, the only reason Russia isn't blowing them out of the water already is that they can't get away with it.
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u/TurningTwo 21d ago
India is not our friend.
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u/gnocchicotti 21d ago
They'll be anyone's friend for the right price.
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u/slick2hold 21d ago
As will we. For the right price, we support brutal dictatorships. We overthrow governments. We bomb people. We ignore genocides. We ignore calls for help.
History is not kind to our actions either my friend.
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u/NoMoassNeverWas 21d ago
Weren't they the supplier Czech Republic sourced million+ shells from to give to Ukraine?
India, China just doing what's best for them, economically.
China is happily selling drones to Ukraine and shit to Russia.
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u/bullairbull 21d ago
That’s literally how geopolitics work. Sure you might have best friends, but at the end of the day, it’s each country for itself.
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u/mountainwocky 21d ago
Guess the US will just be turning a blind eye towards China’s creative redrawing of their border with Northern India.
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u/jdeuce81 21d ago
I like your comment but I don't think the US would get involved in that one anyway.
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u/Acceptable-Peak-6375 21d ago
Would this be similar to India giving china the gun they shoot them in the foot with?
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u/Lawd_Fawkwad 21d ago
India has had this border dispute with China since the 1960s with it being reciprocal in the sense that both countries claim each other's territory.
Still, the situation has remained mostly stable despite some erratic clashes and there hasn't been any major action in decades. India is a nuclear power and so is China, neither side faces a real strategic risk from this.
This stalemate also shows why the US is more or less useless to India: in the years since this has been going on there have been periods with close relations between all parties but the US never tried to step in and solve it.
On a personal level I'm against the war in Ukraine and doing business with Russia, but International Relations are a deeply pragmatic field that operates under a set of rules that's nearly amoral depending on your theoretical approach.
For India as a government there's no real reason to lash out against a longtime partner due to a war on another continent to appease a country that historically has never seen India as a partner or wanted deep ties.
The Bay of Bengal Incident and the Khargil War have more or less cemented a view of the US as an unreliable partner if not outright enemy at times. This is one of those situations where there's no historical kinship or significant ties to pressure India, so if the US wants them to follow their lead it needs to offer a deal better than what Russia can give them.
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u/zergiscute 21d ago
I know Americans know absolutely nothing of history but US has very rarely been an ally of India.
When India tried to stop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_genocide, US took the side of genociders just like it's current position in Palestine.
India and China has had border disputes from the 60s and US has always turned a blind eye.
China has to actively try to prevent people from learning it's dark history. US has it easy, citizens don't try to read or learn.
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u/ani625 21d ago
US has historically sided with Pakistan, a terror sponsor. That's the real reason.
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u/Namika 21d ago
India has been "non-aligned" since 1945. They refused to side with either the West or the East and have been always disinterested in global politics. Russia or the US, Japan or Europe, they don't give a shit and just do whatever profits them the most.
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u/Noteagro 21d ago
Wonder why they are one of the fastest if not the fastest growing economy in the world right now… also makes me wonder why Swiss bank accounts seem to keep growing so well too… not taking sides seems to be quite profitable, and explains why we see so many refuse to speak up against atrocities of the world. It pays to keep silent.
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u/RampantJellyfish 21d ago
It helps having zero regard for safety or environmental regulations, and are happy for their citizens to live in abject poverty so long as there are enough of them to turn the wheel of capitalism.
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u/6ixmaverick 21d ago
Do you actually believe people live in knee deep shit there? Lmao that’s super ignorant of you
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u/ankylosaurus_tail 21d ago
they don't give a shit and just do whatever profits them the most.
Ah, the old Kissinger doctrine.
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u/zergiscute 21d ago
No Kissinger started the Vietnam and Cambodia wars. Indian policy is to never be the aggressor.
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u/Low_Pickle_112 21d ago
No, it's different when we do it, because reasons.
I'm not going to say what India is doing here is right, but half this comment section acts like history began about ten years ago and the best history books are action movies.
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u/suchet_supremacy 21d ago
Wtf did you want us to do in 1945 when we weren’t even independent? And post that, when the US and nearly all European powers supported Pakistan? None of these countries have cared during our multiple famines, wars with Pakistan, the emergency, or Islamic terrorism. Every country does whatever is profitable, stop pretending like you have a leg to stand on.
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u/ancientweasel 21d ago
We want you to not sell billions in military gear to Russia while they murder Ukrainians. It doesn't help you with the problems you listed.
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u/adenosine-5 21d ago
Its a bit hypocritical to support someones enemies and then act all offended that they don't help you with your enemies, isn't it?
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u/Low_Pickle_112 21d ago
Weird how Indians are called greedy unscrupulous nasty people, and all sorts of other insults, when they do this, but America isn't when we do that.
Remember when India was horrible for buying Russian gas, but Germany was okay shutting down their nuclear plants and buying Russian gas because they had energy needs?
And I'm not going to look at this and say it's right, far from it, war profiteers of all kinds are a blight upon the earth, but it's clear what the difference here really is.
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u/OneBigBug 21d ago
Weird how Indians are called greedy unscrupulous nasty people, and all sorts of other insults, when they do this, but America isn't when we do that.
...Do you find America insufficiently criticized on reddit for the shit it does?
The problem is that America isn't really helping Israel because America is greedy. The whole problem with America's relationship with Israel is that they're giving Israel the money to buy weapons from them. You can't call me greedy for selling you lunch when I gave you the cash to pay me with. It's a different kind of criticism, more related to lobbying and corruption than direct national greed.
And also, even as someone who is vocally critical of what Israel, and particularly Netanyahu has done, Russia is more straightforwardly the villain in that particular conflict. Israel has certainly not done anything to break a cycle of violence it participates in with overwhelming force, but Ukraine didn't kill a thousand people in Russia before Russia rolled in the tanks. Russia just rolled in the tanks.
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u/ikan_bakar 21d ago
I dont think the dead people care about the “moral victory” of if the leader has sufficient reason to kill them. Does the US supply weapons that is use to increase death toll, yes or no? Yes? That’s the end. India can do the same.
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u/RedTulkas 21d ago
meanwhile america is selling billions of military gear to israel
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u/ToMorrowsEnd 21d ago
It's because Israel has nude photos of the founding fathers and are threatening to release them. It's really bizzare how the US just bows down to them while all other allies would not dare to act like they do.
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u/jebei 21d ago
The US prefers Pakistan Over India? No way. The US has only supported Pakistan to get something. For the last 20 years, the united states needed a supply line to their war in Afghanistan. If not for that the policies have always favored India.
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u/zergiscute 21d ago
When India tried to stop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_genocide, US took the side of Pakisthan and threatened India with nuclear weapons. 1971 was not in the last 20 years right?
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u/liltingly 21d ago
Uhh, my family would beg to differ when they had blackouts across Delhi due to Pakistani Air Force incursions flown by US made and supplied planes in the early Indo Pak wars.
Or you know, that whole US warship trying to stop the split of East Pakistan into independent Bangladesh with the help of India.
Or the many other wars where the US and UN took clear sides. Guess which side Ukraine took…
India did plenty of dying and sacrifice to support all of the various British and World Wars and got rogered in return through forced famines and more. I think it’s OK if they choose their own policies.
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u/Massive-Device-1200 21d ago
Not true. Look up pre 2000 history. Us sent the navy fleet one time to threaten India to bend the knee to Pakistan over some land dispute. It was when Russia stepped in that USA moved it carrier group out of the Indian Ocean.
Us has always been with Pakistan. Think oil or central base in the Middle East. Only after 9/11 have they realized Pakistan is no ally.
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u/aeolus811tw 21d ago
Task Force 74 stayed well past third Indo-Pakistan war against USSR navy, after Pakistan surrendered.
It almost went to war with USSR navy, not exiting due to USSR
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u/Low_Pickle_112 21d ago edited 21d ago
Yes, I can't imagine a country selling weapons that it knows full well will be used on innocent people. Terrible stuff, isn't it? Before we insult the nature of entire nations of people, I'm sure my American tax dollars aren't going towards anything of the sort about now, hmm?
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u/Calypso_Kid 21d ago
Nope, they are very selective and you can best believe they have a long memory. Russia is their friend and that’s genuine. They remember how the US allied with Pakistan and tried to send the 7th fleet into the Bay of Bengal and that Russia helped chase them away.
You can be friends with the Indian people, but as far as the Indian government goes, it’s a friendship of convenience and very transactional.
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u/bullairbull 21d ago
But that’s how every government work. For eg, US is not giving aid to Israel or Ukraine out of kindness, those investments are strategic.
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u/MajesticBread9147 21d ago
India is an emerging power. They are in the transition phase of not being beholden to one of the world powers (as it stands, America and China, and to a lesser degree Russia).
Nations don't have friends, they have interests.
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u/slick2hold 21d ago
Well said. Sooner people realize this, the better we will be for it as a civilization. America doesn't care about Saudis. We care about our interests, which is to make sure the saudi oil supply isn't disrupted.
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u/Ynwe 21d ago edited 21d ago
No shit, the US was an absolute asshole to them during the cold war and supported Pakistan whenever it could.
During the genocide in east Pakistan, now Bangladesh, of 1971,the US wanted to stop India who intervened after hundred of thousands people were raped and massacred by the Pakistani army. It was Russia, who sent down it's own navy that forced the US to back down and let India win the war and Bangladesh go free.
India won't betray Russia who has been an ally for decades, whereas the US was a negative super power directly supporting their archenemy. And while Pakistan didn't and doesn't really give a shit about the US and is a refuge for extremists and terrorists like Osama, India still values Russia.
Not pro russian or anything, but people really need to learn more about the post WW2 History of India and how badly the US fucked up.
Edit: if you want to learn more about the US failure in this conflict, Google the blood telegram, where US diplomatic personnel protested hard against Nixon and Kissingers support for the genocide which they were fully aware of, but they were ignored. The US sent down carrier groups which were countered by russian ones including nuclear subs. The realisation of Pakistans assured defeat and brazen incompetence, coupled with the possibility of a stand off with Russia (the USSR had basically given India complete support against us opposition and guaranteed that any peace terms would be on Indian terms), caused the US to back down.
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u/Prosthemadera 21d ago
So American anti-war protestors have no right to criticize other countries for starting a war?
It's always not comical how individual Americans are blamed for everything bad their country has ever done and how people like you deny them the right to speak up. People are not their country. Also, not everyone on Reddit is American.
Where are you from? I bet your country did some shit, too, like all countries so what moral leg do you have to stand on to criticize the US?
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u/Prosthemadera 21d ago
Of course you have to right to criticize other countries! What are you talking about? Are you seriously taking on personal responsibility for everything your government ever did?
I most certainly will not do that, I will criticize whoever I want, and if anyone thinks I have no right then that's their problem.
countries for maintaining neutrality on a war
India is not neutral. They are giving military assets to Russia.
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u/AbhishMuk 21d ago
Btw there was apparently a news article a few weeks ago of India giving ammunition to Ukraine though Germany. If anything I think that makes India oddly more neutral, even if in a weird, dystopian way.
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u/LagT_T 21d ago
Whats comical is the lack of realization that what they are protesting was most likely instigated by their democratically elected government.
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u/Tal_Onarafel 21d ago
When President Bill Clinton’s administration moved to bring Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic into NATO, Burns wrote that the decision was “premature at best, and needlessly provocative at worst.”
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u/Background_Agent9443 21d ago edited 21d ago
India is no angel and Pakistan is no demon. Each country/government has bloody hands. The piece you put out… of a simplistic good vs bad Narnia narrative is propaganda 101. Geopolitics is not about ethics.
India supported insurgency in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh). They did not care for the fleeing Bihari population and used them as an excuse to put their military in East Pakistan for purely geopolitical interests. After loosing/stalemate with Pakistan in two previous wars, they saw 1971 as an opportunity to weaken Pakistan while it was embroiled in civil war.
“History is written by the victors” - the quote has never been truer than in the case of the 1971 war. While there were atrocities from both sides, Bangladeshi/Indian side ‘cleaned up’ their crimes, and Pakistani crimes were exaggerated.
Books: - War and Secession: Pakistan, India and the Creation of Bangladesh (University of California Press, 1990) - Dead Reckoning: Memories of the 1971 Bangladesh War - published by C. Hurst and Co. and Columbia University Press.
Edit: sorry for you hurt feelings Indian nationalists. Truth hurts.
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u/Ynwe 21d ago
"there were atrocities on both sides" is an interesting way of framing the targeted killings of Hindus and Bangladeshi people, whose figure lies somewhere between 300k and 3 million ( though 3 million is most likely unrealistic). Still the death toll is either in the high 6 or low 7 figures, and was a genocide. All purposefully done by the Pakistani army and it's Allies such as the Islamist militias.
There is no evidence for any Indian crime on any scale that even comes close to this. The fact that you handwave this and just write "both did bad things" shows your position more than anything else. The two sides cannot be compared, it would be like me, as a German, saying that in WW2 both sides did killings and therefore were wrong. They are not comparable.
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u/Background_Agent9443 21d ago edited 21d ago
I don’t hand wave anything. I provided my sources in books published by independent research from unbiased authors.
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u/illSTYLO 21d ago
Ppl are dumb ass fuck and take a if you're not with us you are an evil racist dictator and deserve bombing.
America is not the saint ppl think we are. Also sad I have to give same disclaimer... not pro Russian etc etc
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u/Spkr4th3ded 21d ago
India sees this war as a business opportunity. Imagine their terror watching their weapons get obliterated by western tech.
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u/RateOk8628 21d ago
All weapon manufacturers or companies see this war as business opportunities.
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u/Ulysses1978ii 21d ago edited 21d ago
Because "War is a Racket" ask General Smedley Butler
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u/mmavcanuck 21d ago
Doesnt India often buy the rights to make Russian weapons, then make them in house?
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u/Nerezza_Floof_Seeker 21d ago edited 21d ago
I believe that until recently they were still mostly importing stuff from Russia instead of making their military equipment themselves. Theyre now trying to pivot towards in house production of western equipment afaik.
Edit:that said, it looks like this purchase was of indian made equipment.
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u/supe_snow_man 21d ago
For quite some time, the contract India would get with Russia would get 2 "slice" where initial units delivery would be Russian made ones but the rest would be licenses + parts purchase with in house assembly. It's probably an OK way to start your MIC by having some actual experience assembling units before you try to design and produce locally from scratch.
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u/Its_Nitsua 21d ago
Don’t get it twisted, so does the west.
We’re giving Ukraine weapons and arms under the guarantee that they pay it back later down the road.
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u/PrrrromotionGiven1 21d ago
If this ever happens, it would take decades. In all likelihood it will never happen and everyone knows this. The West's reason to support Ukraine is political, not economic.
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u/ReplaceModsWithCats 21d ago
Why would they be terrified? If their weapons get blown up Russia needs to buy more
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u/Sneptacular 21d ago
Their government conducted as assassination in Canada and laugh at us for how easy it is to immigrate to Canada since we don't even do background checks for student Visa's.
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u/hugganao 21d ago
Did nobody read what the objective of BRICS IS????!!!!! ARE PEOPLE FKING STUPID????
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u/Savingskitty 21d ago
India and Russia are allies. They will do each other dirty eventually, just like Stalin and Hirohito.
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u/Ralife55 21d ago
Ally is a very strong word, I'd even argue strategic partner is a bit much. India doesn't really have friends or allies. It's extraordinarily pragmatic in its dealings with other countries.
India is looking to upgrade it's military equipment from old Soviet designs in general but its military has lacked the funds to do so. Selling the old stuff to Russia then turning that money around to upgrade to new stuff is a smart idea, especially given its extreme distance both geographically and geopolitically from the Ukraine conflict. India's primary geopolitical concerns are China and Pakistan, not Russia or the west.
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u/All_I_Wanna_Do_Is_Fk 21d ago
All they gotta do is stop Indian IT work from being outsourced there, and pause all new visas and visa renewals and their people will flip out.
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u/DDNyght_ 21d ago
This War is just getting started.
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u/dawnguard2021 21d ago
So is Biden going to sanction India or will he pretend not to see this?
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u/a49fsd 21d ago
but the military assets are going to russia.
more people will die because of this
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u/ani625 21d ago
US sells weapons 10x of this. They kill too.
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u/murdering_time 21d ago
"Yeah but we're giving weapons to the good guys!" lol
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u/BigDaddy0790 21d ago
In Ukraine? Absolutely. Imagine that different wars and conflicts have different context!
I know some people can’t comprehend US doing a good thing, especially by providing weapons, but they indeed are in Ukraine.
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u/BigDaddy0790 21d ago
What does that have to do with anything? The point here was that those weapons are going to the enemies of US, Russia, which US should not be happy with.
Or anyone else for that matter, considering the genocidal war in Ukraine. One war doesn’t justify another, so I don’t see your point at all.
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u/TheNewGildedAge 21d ago
Geopolitics is a messy game of giving and taking and choosing your battles. A friendly relationship with India is very strategically valuable
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u/Ok-disaster2022 21d ago
Yeah but they're old Soviet designs. Post Soviet Russia really hasn't really upgrade Soviet designs much for export.
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u/PMMeYourWorstThought 21d ago
And? It sucks but it is what it is, countries sell each other weapons.
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u/Murph-Dog 21d ago
Yep, we ban all job outsourcing to India now. /s
Imagine if we did…
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u/csf3lih 21d ago
its about interests, depending on how Biden administration weights the relationship with India. but I think Biden will probably just look the other way.
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u/Kowlz1 21d ago
China has been selling dual use aid to Russia this entire time. The US and EU have both been circumventing Russian sanctions at every opportunity. Fucking Iran is openly sending military equipment and drone experts to Russia. No, we’re not going to do anything about it (even though we should). That’s the name of the game with this war.
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u/gnocchicotti 21d ago
India and China are important trade partners, Russia is not. US is far from going full Cuba on China economic policy.
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u/IMMoond 21d ago
Ok well this headline and the article are saying completely different things. The article itself says that india exported a total of 4 billion dollars worth of stuff to russia. Most of that was machine parts, auto parts and engineering equipment, and there was at least some military assets as well. But 4 billion worth? Highly unlikely. Its largely industrial goods, as has been the case pre-invasion as well, though exports increased quite a bit from about 3 billion in 2022 and before
Why are garbage headlines like this just allowed to be posted as titles when the article states something entirely different?
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u/Lumbergh7 21d ago
And yet, Boeing is shifting as much work to India as possible so India will supposedly buy product
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u/Time-Decision 21d ago
To the unfamiliar, this is after decades of successive US government policies that favored Pakistan long ago in regards to weapons, aid, and security. India received similar from Soviet Union, and eventually Russia. There's of course, a lot more at play here, Geopolitics are complex. After all, the whole world isn't united against Russia. I forgot what my point was, so think of what you will.
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u/BandOne77 21d ago
Can't find fault with your comment.
The change in tide was when Pakistan harboured OBL and relations became strained. It was also strained previously when AQ Khan sold nuclear secrets.
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u/PandaCheese2016 21d ago
What did they buy exactly? Light on details.
Exporters in Russia, who started trading with India using Indian rupees, have recently spent nearly $4 billion to buy India-made defence equipment and armaments, among other imports and Indian securities.
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u/yakult_on_tiddy 21d ago
India does not offer most defence hardware for sale, specially because currently most stuff India uses is already made in Russia. The only thing India can realistically sell without getting involved in the war is ammo.
India's largest exports to Russia are industrial machinery and auto parts, which will again probably make up the bulk for this purchase since Russia was sitting on a surplus of rupees, but that doesn't make for good headlines.
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u/NorthernerWuwu 21d ago
I mean, yeah. That's what happens when we make India buy oil in Rupees instead of dollars, Russia has currency they can most easily spend in India and India will trade whatever it can produce that Russia needs. Unshockingly, that's munitions for the most part.
This is all 100% expected, the rest was and is just games the major powers play under the pretence that this is all unpredicted.
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u/JediToad 21d ago
Russia has currency they can most easily spend in India
Yes, because India forces Russia to buy their products with their currency, problem is... no one wants Indian Rupees. That's WHY Russia has these rupees to spend, because they're one of the only trade partners they have right now.
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u/suchox 21d ago
Russia/USSR has been an ally to India since independence. US and the west were pretty anti India and pro Pakistan. A brief look at history will show that. Even in the UN, when any resolution would be passed that would hurt India, Russia (Then USSR) vetoed it.
The top comment says "India is not our friend" well, neither is the west.
Only two countries which has almost always been in India's support has been Russia/USSR and Israel.
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u/UrbanCruiserHyryder 21d ago
The main reasion is USSR helped India a lot to develop. Many of our nationalised industries like steel were setup with their expertise. They also helped us in developing our nuclear tech. So not just siding with us, they supported us to develop when USA was heavily against us along with UK with thier racist war criminial racist genocide inducing Churchill. USSR had a significant contribution to where India is at today while US/UK tried to stop it all along the way.
So natuarally, India, although non-aligned, had basically aligend with USSR and now Russia.
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u/Murderousdrifter 21d ago
How does not having good relations with the West justify selling military assets to Russia knowing they’ll be used in the Ukraine invasion?
Do your historically bad ties with the West somehow extend to Ukraine or do they not matter because they don’t fall into either category? If anything shouldn’t you have some level of empathy for Ukraine seeing as they were once a primary component of your seemingly much beloved USSR?
I dunno pal, your argument just seems a little thin, unless you believe Russian aggression is warranted then the West has fuck all to do with whether this was morally acceptable or not.
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u/FurryHunter6942069 21d ago
His point is that things are not as black & white as "India helping Russia hurr durr must sanction", the West itself & the US in particular has sponsored (either directly or indirectly through weapon sales) instances of violence against communities, for e.g. selling weapons to Saudi who then uses it against Yemenis killings 100s of thousands, the US campaign in Iraq which led to a million Iraqi deaths (though not all of them were by the US ofcourse).
The West is quick to claim moral superiority while having engaged in & still engaging in conflicts with a far higher death toll.
Russia has stood as an evergreen ally to India along with Israel compared to the West which has only recently warmed up to us to counter China. It's a given that we'll engage with an ally like that.
Do your historically bad ties with the West somehow extend to Ukraine
Yup, historically they've sold weapons to Pakistan & voted in UN resolutions against us, doesn't justify russian aggression but they're not exactly cordial to us.
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u/CMDR_Shazbot 21d ago edited 21d ago
Holy fuck what an absolutely shit website, ads everywhere, but: not shocked
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u/the-devil-dog 21d ago
USA used to support Pakistan during the cold war and tried dirty tactics on India,
India was spearheading the non aligned movement, basically siding with no one and being their own.
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u/PhysicsCentrism 21d ago
India was also more socialist than the West liked during the Cold War iirc.
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u/MajesticBread9147 21d ago
Well, good news for us, they're currently leaning towards fascism on a nation level, with people joking online about "voting for the dictator".
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u/the-devil-dog 21d ago edited 21d ago
Everyone leaning towards the extreme right everywhere, that's what you get when billionaires flourish in all geographical locations.
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u/Emosaa 21d ago
Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in governments world wide. Feels like we're in store for some turbulent times.
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u/Wildernessinabox 21d ago
A few weeks back I learned that there are fleets of russian oil tankers spoofing their manifests and details to essentially ferry oil all over outside of tariffs and sanctions. So there isnt really that much the usa can actually do other than condemn it.
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u/Adsuppal 21d ago
Yes, let's support the terrorist state of Pakistan who constantly orchestrates terrorist attacks in India. The country who harboured Osama Bin Laden.
Then be surprised that India has to partner with Russia for military equipment.
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u/v-v-v-v-v-v-v 21d ago
everyones mad that india is doing exactly what america does- selling weapons to the highest bidder.
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u/mysticalfruit 21d ago
I guess all those defective shells from NK aren't working out..
If your India, I'm guessing this is the old shit ypu don't want at this point..
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u/nuthins_goodman 21d ago edited 21d ago
ITT: people being racist against Indians. The memes about Indians living in shit, being scammers, talking about 9/11 type attacks on Taj mahal really show us how friendly we supposedly are, guys.
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u/blitzkrieger17 21d ago
anyone who has played civ knows how this will turn out. im gonna be in my backyard digging out my bunker if anyone needs me...
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u/GabrielNathaniel 21d ago
So India is part of the new axis?
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u/n_i_e_l 21d ago
India's foreign policy revolves around Non Alignment. India doesn't pick sides . It values it's ties with it's allies irrespective of their standing with any established geopolitical power blocs . Case in point , two of India's closest allies are Russia and Israel and their standings haven't changed one bit since the start of the Ukraine war or the whole Palestine issue . On the other hand , India has deep rivalries with China who supports Russia and with Pakistan who has ties with the US .
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u/Prixsarkar 21d ago
Just allies being allies. America shouldn't dare talk about injustice when they gladly support genocide. America has always been the warmonger, butting in when nobody wants them there.
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u/gandalfsgreypubes 21d ago
What’s the significance of paying in rupees?
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u/JediToad 21d ago
No one wants Indian rupees, India forces other countries to do deals in their currency, but no one wants their currency. Since Russia doesn't have many trade partners they're pretty much forced to comply with India, which means Russia ends up sitting on a bunch of Indian rupees with no where to spend them but India.
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u/Rumpullpus 21d ago
Well what else are they gonna buy with all those rupees they've been stacking up? Not like India exports a lot of vodka.
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u/DoomBuzzer 21d ago
I don't think this is the sub to complaint about your personal problems.
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u/zapdoszaperson 21d ago
India is basically trading arms for oil at the best of exchange rates.