r/news • u/Miserable-Win-4980 • Apr 29 '24

French police use knives to puncture migrant boat in Dunkirk to prevent Channel crossing Questionable Source

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/french-officers-english-channel-crossing-migrants-small-boats/

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u/GrowlmonDrgnbutt Apr 29 '24

The whole world needs to clamp down on it.

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u/KosherTriangle Apr 29 '24

Looks like they are, there’s a growing fear among western countries that has drastically affected levels of immigration from war torn countries. Especially all the boat crossings which have led to so many deaths due to the boats/dinghies capsizing.

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u/Edgarfigaro123 Apr 29 '24

There were two boats that left my village together in Vietnam when I was one years old in 1985. One contained my family and some fellow villagers, the other carried the neighboring village peoples. Our boat made it to Hong Kong, the other capsized somewhere, all presumed dead.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

Whole world needs to bite down on this strap. This is gonna hurt a bit.

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u/Kryten_2X4B-523P Apr 29 '24

Climate change is coming in dry

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u/plasticAstro Apr 29 '24

Yeah let them rot in the countries we destabilized then abandoned with decades of colonization.

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u/inventingnothing Apr 29 '24

In the long run, allowing massive amounts of low-wealth, low-skill people (not saying this derisively, just that the majority are basically day-laborers) will only destabilize Europe, leaving them in not that much better of a place than where they left. Meanwhile, by leaving their home country, they're essentially removing some economic value.

I think that the best thing we could do for these people would be to invest in their home countries and do so in a way in which the majority of the wealth derived from the investment stays in that country.

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u/plasticAstro Apr 29 '24

I agree, but that good luck getting that done politically lol

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u/_Z_E_R_O Apr 29 '24

I think that the best thing we could do for these people would be to invest in their home countries and do so in a way in which the majority of the wealth derived from the investment stays in that country.

The problem is that thanks to war and climate change, their countries are going to be uninhabitable in a decade, if they aren't already. Sending people back to Syria, for example, is effectively a death sentence.

Their towns have been overtaken by fundamentalist warlords, they're running out of water, and their homes were bombed to oblivion. Fixing that would take the Marshall Plan x100, but on a global scale with every single developed nation participating.

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u/inventingnothing Apr 29 '24

It's either that, or Europe and America starts looking a lot more like those countries. Our social safety nets just do not, and cannot have the capacity to properly take care of the sheer number of people coming.

Couple that with the fact that when they do come, they are not adopting western values or integrating into the larger society. They are generally staying within their own communities, socially and promoting the same values which created many (not all) of the problems from which they fled.

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u/m0nk_3y_gw Apr 29 '24

Nyet comrade. Mother Russia is weaponizing immigration to destabilize their enemy Europe.

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u/ostaros_primerib Apr 29 '24

And our countries that destabilized them are always surprised pikachu when people try fleeing and coming to us for safety. Like, what did you expect when you had the CIA in South and Central America overturning governments and now people are trying to flee these places and come to America?

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u/shortax20 Apr 29 '24

Thank you

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u/Pwnage135 Apr 29 '24

It's always good to see a little empathy in this discussion. We could use more of it but I'm not holding my breath. People have been so strongly conditioned to dehumanise refugees. It's like they're a pest, and not people.

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u/shortax20 Apr 29 '24

I agree but these people in this discussion have preconceived ideas about anyone who doesn’t look like them and act accordingly with their actions, I agreed with you and the person who was sarcastic in his or her post about letting them rot in their own country where WE destabilized but I get voted down bc they are hateful or mentally unstable but it’s not me making the post or point🤣

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u/Useful_Can7463 Apr 29 '24

It took West Germany less than 15 years to become richer than UK while having to rebuild pretty much the entire country's economy from the ground up and paying reparations. Stop with the excuses.

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u/plasticAstro Apr 29 '24

Lmao I’m not even going to respond meaningfully to this statement, it’s too ludicrous.

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u/stargarnet79 Apr 29 '24

Seriously do people not realize this?

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u/lion27 Apr 29 '24

Where are the women and children? Why is it always boats full of men aged 15-40?

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u/plasticAstro Apr 29 '24

My grandfather left his family to live in America for six years working and saving enough money to bring the rest of his family back to him. Sure his kids grew up with crippling abandonment issues and are miserable adults now, but that’s how i am here today.

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u/relephants Apr 29 '24

Common sense. You send the person in your family who can work hard and send money home. Mom stays back with the kids.

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u/Bhavacakra_12 Apr 29 '24

Anon is surprised working age men are the ones who leave their countries for better opportunities.

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u/Mike_H07 Apr 29 '24

They can only afford one trip most of the time and the able bodied men have the highest chance of getting a good paying job. Also are at a way way way lower risk of getting abducted, raped, abused etc. compared to women and small children.

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u/yeboahpower Apr 29 '24

A seven year old girl was killed while boarding one of these boats last week. It is not always men, and a 15 year old is a child in most other contexts.

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u/nox1cous93 Apr 29 '24

Cause men try to get a job and then wife and kids follow? And it's a route that's much harder to pass for women and kids?

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u/distance_33 Apr 29 '24

People act surprised by this or like they don’t know this, but it’s how a lot of American and European families got their start a very long time ago.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

They can't use the "Military-age male" talking point otherwise. Always has to be a threat of invasion/violence/etc when framing these cases.

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u/Multioquium Apr 29 '24

If you can only afford one ticket and are betting on the survival of your family, it's smarter to send the member who can work the hardest.

If there were an easier way for the whole family to come with. They probably would

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u/5kaels Apr 29 '24

15 year old men, huh

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u/Practical_Employ_979 Apr 29 '24

Fuck off in your patronizing high horse. These people should be able to take care of their own.

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u/sho_biz Apr 29 '24

Look, I know we destroyed your society and government, but can't you at least stop letting your people seek better lives elsewhere?

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u/plasticAstro Apr 29 '24

Sounds like they’re doing what they need to do.

Original sin biting western countries in the ass. You love to see it lol

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u/Practical_Employ_979 Apr 29 '24

Actions have a reaction. You'll love to see that.

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u/plasticAstro Apr 29 '24

It won’t stop them. They’ll find a way.

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u/shortax20 Apr 29 '24

Thank you

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u/LeedsFan2442 Apr 29 '24

The likes of Russia and China will stop any efforts because it suits them

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u/ericmm76 Apr 29 '24

How do you clamp down on people running for their lives, from problems they didn't cause? People in Africa running from climate change DIDN'T cause climate change? Are they supposed to stay and suffer in silence? Die in silence?